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*So the one way to fix the metacrisis is to just let it go, and Donna gets to keep her memories. Why didn't she just do that in Journey's End all those years ago? | *So the one way to fix the metacrisis is to just let it go, and Donna gets to keep her memories. Why didn't she just do that in Journey's End all those years ago? | ||
**She has the benefit now of a) more time to think about it, compared to the first time the crisis started to hit, when she had seconds to consider whilst being increasingly unstable, b) fifteen years more wisdom and maturity, and c) a different perspective, with a family of people she loves and who support her, rather than having just lost her father, feeling purposeless and undefined as Donna, not helped by the poor relationship she endured with Sylvia the first time around. Giving up being "The Doctor-Donna" now is just surrendering a part of her identity to preserve all that; fifteen years ago it would have seemed like giving up everything that mattered. | **She has the benefit now of a) more time to think about it, compared to the first time the crisis started to hit, when she had seconds to consider whilst being increasingly unstable, b) fifteen years more wisdom and maturity, and c) a different perspective, with a family of people she loves and who support her, rather than having just lost her father, feeling purposeless and undefined as Donna, not helped by the poor relationship she endured with Sylvia the first time around. Giving up being "The Doctor-Donna" now is just surrendering a part of her identity to preserve all that; fifteen years ago it would have seemed like giving up everything that mattered. | ||
***While that does make sense, Donna also mentions that she wanted to travel with the Doctor "forever" so if the only way to do that without getting her mind wiped is to "let it go", don't you think she would have done it? | ***While that does make sense, Donna also mentions that she wanted to travel with the Doctor "forever" so if the only way to do that without getting her mind wiped is to "let it go", don't you think she would have done it? | ||
****Agreed, she would have, given even a few minutes with a clear head to come to that decision- but during the first metacrisis, she didn't even have a few minutes. This could have been avoided if the Doctor had told her that it couldn't last while she was still stable, of course; but he didnt, likely because as [[The Family of Blood (TV story)]] shows, the Doctor himself is temperamentally incapable of understanding why he might willingly ''want'' to give up the "Doctor" element of his identity in order to lead a human life, despite his love,of humans and all the pain being the Doctor causes him; so in [[Journey's End (TV story)]] he simply would not conceive that there was a solution other than wiping her memory, and thus put off telling her until it was too late, out of compassion. | ****Agreed, she would have, given even a few minutes with a clear head to come to that decision- but during the first metacrisis, she didn't even have a few minutes. This could have been avoided if the Doctor had told her that it couldn't last while she was still stable, of course; but he didnt, likely because as [[The Family of Blood (TV story)]] shows, the Doctor himself is temperamentally incapable of understanding why he might willingly ''want'' to give up the "Doctor" element of his identity in order to lead a human life, despite his love,of humans and all the pain being the Doctor causes him; so in [[Journey's End (TV story)]] he simply would not conceive that there was a solution other than wiping her memory, and thus put off telling her until it was too late, out of compassion. | ||
*****The 14th Doctor explicitly states that Donna had a child (Rose) so the metacrisis passed down, splitting it up into both Donna and Rose - much like passing on genetics and so forth. The Doctor further states that this passing it down also slows down the metacrisis, hence why Donna and Rose are perfectly fine after the metacrisis is restored. Therefore, there is less of the metacrisis in her to dispel, hence it is easier to do now than it was before when it was literally burning her up. | |||
******All that is true but the episode makes no implications that Donna couldn't have let it go earlier nor is it stated in the episode that Rose had anything to do with being able to let it go. Sure, it might be easier to do now but that doesn't mean it couldn't be done before. Ultimately, this still leaves the point of if Donna wanted to keep traveling with the Doctor and not die, why didn't she just let go earlier? | |||
*******She couldn't let it go before because there was too much metacrisis in her to do that. Again, as said above, the Doctor realises Donna getting pregnant and having a child meant she genetically passed down a large portion of the metacrisis energy. Therefore, now she could let it go since it wasn't as much to let go as before. | |||
*How exactly does Donna's metacrisis work? You'd think Donna would only have the Doctor's mind up until the point when she originally gained it during the metacrisis (the mind of the Tenth Doctor and preceding incarnations), but she seems to know his future or at least that he was a woman, something that hadn't happened to the Doctor by the time she gained his mind. Does this mean that Donna gained new incarnations mind's as part of the metacrisis every once and awhile? Or that she gained new parts of his mind once the Doctor reawakened the metacrisis in her? Or something else entirely? Does this also imply that other metacrisis beings that happen to have the Doctor's mind (like the Metacrisis Tenth Doctor) also subconsciously gain memories of the happenings of the regular Doctor? | *How exactly does Donna's metacrisis work? You'd think Donna would only have the Doctor's mind up until the point when she originally gained it during the metacrisis (the mind of the Tenth Doctor and preceding incarnations), but she seems to know his future or at least that he was a woman, something that hadn't happened to the Doctor by the time she gained his mind. Does this mean that Donna gained new incarnations mind's as part of the metacrisis every once and awhile? Or that she gained new parts of his mind once the Doctor reawakened the metacrisis in her? Or something else entirely? Does this also imply that other metacrisis beings that happen to have the Doctor's mind (like the Metacrisis Tenth Doctor) also subconsciously gain memories of the happenings of the regular Doctor? | ||
**This would somewhat be explained in the next special, Wild Blue Yander, as Donna is indeed confirmed to have access to all the Doctor's memories even ones he hadn't experienced when she took on his mind, however, she's unable to access most of them. | **This would somewhat be explained in the next special, Wild Blue Yander, as Donna is indeed confirmed to have access to all the Doctor's memories even ones he hadn't experienced when she took on his mind, however, she's unable to access most of them. | ||
