Trusted
8,474
edits
Forum:MTG Minutiae: Difference between revisions
From Tardis Wiki, the free Doctor Who reference
→Discussion
Bongolium500 (talk | contribs) No edit summary |
Tag: 2017 source edit |
||
| Line 111: | Line 111: | ||
::Your claim that gameplay "doesn't represent anything" seems both at odds with what's written on the cards themselves ("when the First Doctor enters the battlefield…") and, as I said, with the opening blurb of the page on the official website. I don't really see where you're getting this notion from, even as I remain confused as to the exact nature of the in-universe events that are being represented! The blurb frames the whole thing as a role-playing experience, and the individual cards talk about the characters/monsters doing stuff in combat situations. I have no idea whether the resultant mess would pass Rule 4, Rule 1 aside — nor if the intended simulated narrative involves the usual MTG framing device at all; maybe not! — but it does seem to me that there's a fictional element at play by all public accounts, just not one that's viewed as canonical to "the story" of mainline MTG. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 20:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | ::Your claim that gameplay "doesn't represent anything" seems both at odds with what's written on the cards themselves ("when the First Doctor enters the battlefield…") and, as I said, with the opening blurb of the page on the official website. I don't really see where you're getting this notion from, even as I remain confused as to the exact nature of the in-universe events that are being represented! The blurb frames the whole thing as a role-playing experience, and the individual cards talk about the characters/monsters doing stuff in combat situations. I have no idea whether the resultant mess would pass Rule 4, Rule 1 aside — nor if the intended simulated narrative involves the usual MTG framing device at all; maybe not! — but it does seem to me that there's a fictional element at play by all public accounts, just not one that's viewed as canonical to "the story" of mainline MTG. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 20:39, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | ||
::: Regarding "when the First Doctor enters the battlefield…", that's an entirely mechanical statement. "The First Doctor" is the name of the card and "the battlefield" is one of the game's [[w:c:mtg:zones|zones]] which are refered to in the rules. | ::: Regarding "when the First Doctor enters the battlefield…", that's an entirely mechanical statement. "The First Doctor" is the name of the card and "the battlefield" is one of the game's [[w:c:mtg:zones|zones]] which are refered to in the rules. {{Unsigned|Bongolium500}} | ||
::::Oh, okay. There's some confusion here. The marketing is a mess for UB products and we can discuss that if you really want, but I don't think it shows what you think it shows. But "when [CARDNAME] [X]s" is not a roleplaying-esque description of events. It's a relatively well defined thing in the games rules that has been watered down into shorthand for the players on the card. See [https://media.wizards.com/2023/downloads/MagicCompRules%2020231117.pdf here] for the full text, the specific example you give uses rule sections 110, 201, 403, 405, 601, 603, and 608. At least. Probably more. Is there some flavoring over the entire affair so that people aren't just waving spreadsheets at each other? Yes. But I don't think that flavoring means that there's any intent that individual games were to be engaging in this framing device. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:14, 22 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
