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:: Having read through the archives of old, I'm certainly sympathetic to the view that the glut of inclusion debates was counterproductive. A good Forum thread has a meaty opening post that explores all known evidence on the issue, and those threads were… not that, even when they were arguing for ultimately-desirable changes. With no offence to the OP of this thread, even this one is barely acceptable given all the complicated issues at stake.
:: Having read through the archives of old, I'm certainly sympathetic to the view that the glut of inclusion debates was counterproductive. A good Forum thread has a meaty opening post that explores all known evidence on the issue, and those threads were… not that, even when they were arguing for ultimately-desirable changes. With no offence to the OP of this thread, even this one is barely acceptable given all the complicated issues at stake.


:: As regards being "hard pressed to make a case for DG passing Rule 4" I actually don't think that's true — as documented at [[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (series)#Shared Douglas Adams universe]], Adams actually does seem to have liked sowing little connections between ''Dirk Gently'', ''Hitchhiker's'', and his ''Who'' scripts — one imagines, moreso for his own amusement than because he expected more readers to "get it", but even so. Chronotis in ''Dirk Gently'' doesn't actually need any "by another account": there is, pointedly, never any explanation in the novel for how he can be centuries old, and what he retired from. His inability to remember what he did before he joined St Cedd's is honestly a dead ringer for how more conventional spin-offs get around BBC-owned elements without retconning them, e.g. [[Chris Cwej]]'s doctored memories in ''[[Dead Romance (novel)|Dead Romance]]'' and ''[[Cwej: The Series (series)|Cwej: The Series]]'' which leave him unable to mention the Doctor. (Yes, Dirk ''believes'' that Chronotis invented the time machine himself, but this is never externally confirmed, and he's, well, Dirk.)  
:: As regards being "hard pressed to make a case for DG passing Rule 4" I actually don't think that's true — as documented at [[The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy (series)#Shared Douglas Adams universe]], Adams actually does seem to have liked sowing little connections between ''Dirk Gently'', ''Hitchhiker's'', and his ''Who'' scripts — one imagines, moreso for his own amusement than because he expected most readers to "get it", but even so. Chronotis in ''Dirk Gently'' doesn't actually need any "by another account": there is, pointedly, never any explanation in the novel for how he can be centuries old, and what he retired from. His inability to remember what he did before he joined St Cedd's is honestly a dead ringer for how more conventional spin-offs get around BBC-owned elements without retconning them, e.g. [[Chris Cwej]]'s doctored memories in ''[[Dead Romance (novel)|Dead Romance]]'' and ''[[Cwej: The Series (series)|Cwej: The Series]]'' which leave him unable to mention the Doctor. (Yes, Dirk ''believes'' that Chronotis invented the time machine himself, but this is never externally confirmed, and he's, well, Dirk.)  


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