Talk:Flesh and Stone (TV story): Difference between revisions
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::: Good call! I forgot about the TARDIS noise when we see 7-year-old Amy sitting on her suitcase as day breaks. She's definitely smiling, so I don't think the TARDIS noise is just pulled-forward sound editing from the events twelve years later. We shall see, eh? [[User:Hack59|Hack59]] 17:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | ::: Good call! I forgot about the TARDIS noise when we see 7-year-old Amy sitting on her suitcase as day breaks. She's definitely smiling, so I don't think the TARDIS noise is just pulled-forward sound editing from the events twelve years later. We shall see, eh? [[User:Hack59|Hack59]] 17:14, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
: Here's something I've noticed though I won't dare try to debate the work-ability of it. The doctor (comes back?!?) tells Amy that she must trust him and that's when she finally tells him about her wedding. She even tells the audience explicitly in the beginning of the 2nd episode, but doesn't tell the doctor. If she doesn't tell the doctor, he wouldn't know about her wedding--if he doesn't know that the wedding is on the same day as the message (or whatever) he got then he would never be able to connect the fact that they are related. I think we do have a paradox issue (or whatever) where this episode didn't end the way we think it did. The doctor worked out on his own that time can be rewritten and will come back later to change the fact that Amy didn't tell him about her wedding until too late. I have no idea what he could possibly mean by having her remember when she was 7 except for the fact when he tells her that he isn't "people" (though that is a very weak argument based on the fact that I think she's dreaming about the doctor later in the episode--her dream self would recognize the sound subconsciously making her dreamself smile). But I guess to be fair, if I'm right about him coming back to tell her to tell him the truth then whatever he told her in episode 1 happened after episode 5 (AND after her own reaction in episode 1 after he shows up the 3rd time) then that really was her younger self meeting him and is foreshadowing her change in attitude in episode 5. And I've just confused myself. I do have ONE question about the jacket which is the only reason why I have the slightest doubt about him traveling back to give her the message--how does one wear a jacket WITH the sleeves rolled up? [[Special:Contributions/199.111.189.92|199.111.189.92]] 23:56, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | : Here's something I've noticed though I won't dare try to debate the work-ability of it. The doctor (comes back?!?) tells Amy that she must trust him and that's when she finally tells him about her wedding. She even tells the audience explicitly in the beginning of the 2nd episode, but doesn't tell the doctor. If she doesn't tell the doctor, he wouldn't know about her wedding--if he doesn't know that the wedding is on the same day as the message (or whatever) he got then he would never be able to connect the fact that they are related. I think we do have a paradox issue (or whatever) where this episode didn't end the way we think it did. The doctor worked out on his own that time can be rewritten and will come back later to change the fact that Amy didn't tell him about her wedding until too late. I have no idea what he could possibly mean by having her remember when she was 7 except for the fact when he tells her that he isn't "people" (though that is a very weak argument based on the fact that I think she's dreaming about the doctor later in the episode--her dream self would recognize the sound subconsciously making her dreamself smile). But I guess to be fair, if I'm right about him coming back to tell her to tell him the truth then whatever he told her in episode 1 happened after episode 5 (AND after her own reaction in episode 1 after he shows up the 3rd time) then that really was her younger self meeting him and is foreshadowing her change in attitude in episode 5. And I've just confused myself. I do have ONE question about the jacket which is the only reason why I have the slightest doubt about him traveling back to give her the message--how does one wear a jacket WITH the sleeves rolled up? [[Special:Contributions/199.111.189.92|199.111.189.92]] 23:56, May 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::Exactly, taking his tie off in front of Martha wasn't interfering with the events that were still to come. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 21:42, June 4, 2010 (UTC) | ::Exactly, taking his tie off in front of Martha wasn't interfering with the events that were still to come. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 21:42, June 4, 2010 (UTC) | ||
I see your point, but it did make Martha think there was something weird about him (apart from the whole two heartbeats thing of course). ~Coolio~ | I see your point, but it did make Martha think there was something weird about him (apart from the whole two heartbeats thing of course). ~Coolio~ | ||
All of this looking back to see what it was The Doctor told Amy when she was 7 is misguided. The answer to this other Doctor is in the end of Cold Blood. When Rory gets erased from existance, The Doctor tries to get Amy to remember him, and thus keep some part of him still in their world. And we now know that the crack is directly related to the TARDIS, specifically to an explosion that could destroy it. The Doctor doesn't need Amy to remember any specific thing about him - he just needs her to REMEMBER him, because something in the season finale is going to threaten to erase him from time as well. [[Special:Contributions/24.228.56.86|24.228.56.86]] 06:32, June 9, 2010 (UTC) Aden Nak | |||
==Clock problem== | ==Clock problem== | ||
