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:how noticeable Is the silouhette? maybe it's just a ghost on set....[[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]]
:how noticeable Is the silouhette? maybe it's just a ghost on set....[[User:Lu-igi board|Lu-igi board]]
::It's pretty noticeable. The camera goes from looking at Amelia outside to zooming out on the window then something runs by the camera and if you slow it down you can tell it is humanoid because you can see the arm as it's leaving the screen. [[User:V00D00M0NKY|V00D00M0NKY]] 22:39, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
::It's pretty noticeable. The camera goes from looking at Amelia outside to zooming out on the window then something runs by the camera and if you slow it down you can tell it is humanoid because you can see the arm as it's leaving the screen. [[User:V00D00M0NKY|V00D00M0NKY]] 22:39, June 11, 2010 (UTC)
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::Just a quick note on the argument that the doctor returning wearing a new jacket in 'Flesh and Stone' is nothing more than a production error-- I'm a media major and have done a fair bit of filming, and here's my take on it:
::-Most tvshows/ movies are filmed with one camera on each set at a time-- lights, sound, everything is set up to film the whole scene going one direction (let's say Amy's closeup), the entire scene is filmed a couple times to give options in editing, then it is all reset for another angle (the Doctor's closeup), filmed, reset for a third angle( a wideshot), and so on an so forth for every camera angle needed, then all the pieces are cut together in editing.
::-In the scene in question, there are only two angles used- Amy's hands moving to Amy's closeup, and the Doctor's closeup.
::-At some point both of these shots, you can see the changes in The Doctor's outfit- sleeves rolled up, new watch, and a glimpse of a jacket-clad shoulder in the one, and the collar of the shirt and jacket in the other.
::-For this to have been a continuity error, he would have had to change multiple times in between shots as they filmed the scene.
::-The argument could be made that that scene was filmed on a different day, which is plausible, but (and this is all conjecture based on what I know from filming, so you can take it or leave it as you will) when filming, and especially on location, you want to get as much done in as little time as possible. To me it seems likely that all the scenes with the Doctor in them were filmed together, and maybe the next day the scenes with just Amy and the clerics were filmed while, at a different location, they were filming scenes with the Doctor, but not with Amy.(Similar to how they did 'Midnight' and 'Turn Left' at the same time in season 4, but on a smaller scale) THEREFORE, the Doctor would have still had to have changed his outfit during the same day of filming to allow for the differences in this scene.
::-Personally, I think the change was done on purpose, but kept to a minimum, so the average viewer wouldn't take much notice of it. That way, when whatever happens in the finale happens, the audience can have that moment of realization when they do decide to go back and rewatch stuff after the fact and see the subtle costume change and different way of speaking to Amy. If they really wanted it to be obvious (or if it was a continuity error), they could have just put in a wide shot so everyone could see he magically got a new jacket, which he then promptly lost again.
::So, yeah, that's just my take on things from what I know of filming and the filming process... that turned out to be a lot longer than it was in my mind... Oh well.
::- Also, it looks to me like the shirt he is wearing is different as well- making a costume change evenmore complicated than just quickly putting on a jacket. [[User:Melefim|Melefim]] 04:58, June 20, 2010 (UTC)Melefim
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