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: "It has been rumored that [[Alex Kingston]] will return as River Song and travel with the Eleventh Doctor." By who, exactly? Is there a cited source claiming this? I removed it until there is one. [[User:Golden Monkey|Golden Monkey]] 23:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC) | : "It has been rumored that [[Alex Kingston]] will return as River Song and travel with the Eleventh Doctor." By who, exactly? Is there a cited source claiming this? I removed it until there is one. [[User:Golden Monkey|Golden Monkey]] 23:30, 3 January 2009 (UTC) | ||
:: Although there is now media coverage confirming that Kingston will appear in an upcoming episode, this information still doesn't belong in ''this'' article, at least not as yet. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 17:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | :: Although there is now media coverage confirming that Kingston will appear in an upcoming episode, this information still doesn't belong in ''this'' article, at least not as yet. [[User:23skidoo|23skidoo]] 17:15, 22 July 2009 (UTC) | ||
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Doctor 11 has bow legs. | |||
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At the end of [[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]] we see the TARDISes windows blow up and the interior being wrecked, that is proof enough. | At the end of [[The End of Time (TV story)|The End of Time]] we see the TARDISes windows blow up and the interior being wrecked, that is proof enough. | ||
Well it isn't really. In [[ | Well it isn't really. In [[TV]]: [[Voyage of the Damned]] we see that the Titanic went through the TARDIS but the Doctor simply used a TARDIS control to repair the ship. Furthermore, there are promotional shoots of the Eleventh Doctor standing outside the Blue Police Box, the only change is the St. John's Ambulance sticker has been added and the windows have changed slightly, also the paint colour is a lighter shade of blue. DW Magazine.--[[Special:Contributions/81.98.0.33|81.98.0.33]] 18:13, January 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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I shall have to go back and watch it again then, because I clearly remember him saying that the Cybermen forced him to regenerate [[User:MrCatharsis|MrCatharsis]] 09:19, April 22, 2010 (UTC) | I shall have to go back and watch it again then, because I clearly remember him saying that the Cybermen forced him to regenerate [[User:MrCatharsis|MrCatharsis]] 09:19, April 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
Sure he did. | Sure he did. "I was holding this device, the night I lost my mind. The night I regenerated. The Cybermen, they made me change. My mind, my face, my whole self. And you were there." Jackson said this in the scene in the house, right after using the info stamp to kill the two cybermen. This is around 13-14 minutes in. So he knows about "regeneration," but may not fully understand what he's saying any more than he understands what the TARDIS is. There was never a mention of him know what iteration of the Doctor he is, though. [[User:BrainySpecs|BrainySpecs]] 06:29, June 15, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Rumours removed== | ==Rumours removed== | ||
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== the doctors 11th? == | == the doctors 11th? == | ||
is it actuality the 11th regeneration of our favourite time lord or is it the 10th you wonder why i say this because as he was with William hartnel he was in his 1st boy 0 regenerations but he did kind of regenerate in the penultimate episode of series four but does that class as a regeneration or not because it didn't go full cycle | is it actuality the 11th regeneration of our favourite time lord or is it the 10th you wonder why i say this because as he was with William hartnel he was in his 1st boy 0 regenerations but he did kind of regenerate in the penultimate episode of series four but does that class as a regeneration or not because it didn't go full cycle | ||
also i would like to know how in this regeneration he virtually destroyed his tardis but Christopher ecleson to David tenant (9th to 10th) it didn't--Ajax752 20:21, January 1, 2010 (UTC) | also i would like to know how in this regeneration he virtually destroyed his tardis but Christopher ecleson to David tenant (9th to 10th) it didn't--Ajax752 20:21, January 1, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==Pacifism== | ==Pacifism== | ||
From watching the advert alone, we know that the Eleventh Doctor doesn't have as much of a deal about using weapons as Ten did - I mean, he punched a man in the face! xD Someone who can want to put it up as speculation? [[User:BlueBox|BlueBox]] 01:36, January 2, 2010 (UTC) | From watching the advert alone, we know that the Eleventh Doctor doesn't have as much of a deal about using weapons as Ten did - I mean, he punched a man in the face! xD Someone who can want to put it up as speculation? [[User:BlueBox|BlueBox]] 01:36, January 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==Memory issues== | ==Memory issues== | ||
After his regeneration the Eleventh clearly says "I'm someone...I'm someone...important... I'm crashing!!!". Every new Doctor experiences some degree of disorientation in his earliest minutes of existance, but the Tenth, "born" in very similar circumstances, made a point to describe to Rose Tyler as many memories as he could... maybe we would expect some major lags in his memory in the future? However, I dunno if it's enough relevant to be set as part of his regeneration, at least of a mention, like the mild "insanity" shown by the Fifth in attacking Peri, or the enhanced lag preceding the regeneration of the Seventh into the Eight --[[Special:Contributions/217.201.210.160|217.201.210.160]] 14:00, January 2, 2010 (UTC) | After his regeneration the Eleventh clearly says "I'm someone...I'm someone...important... I'm crashing!!!". Every new Doctor experiences some degree of disorientation in his earliest minutes of existance, but the Tenth, "born" in very similar circumstances, made a point to describe to Rose Tyler as many memories as he could... maybe we would expect some major lags in his memory in the future? However, I dunno if it's enough relevant to be set as part of his regeneration, at least of a mention, like the mild "insanity" shown by the Fifth in attacking Peri, or the enhanced lag preceding the regeneration of the Seventh into the Eight --[[Special:Contributions/217.201.210.160|217.201.210.160]] 14:00, January 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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== Violent 11 th doctor == | == Violent 11 th doctor == | ||
This doctor looks a bit violent in the trailers --[[User:The mysterious|The mysterious]] 18:16, January 2, 2010 (UTC) | This doctor looks a bit violent in the trailers --[[User:The mysterious|The mysterious]] 18:16, January 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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==Images== | ==Images== | ||
:Burnt out skrewdriver.jpg | |||
Burnt out skrewdriver.jpg | :Fishy snacks.JPG | ||
Fishy snacks.JPG | :Fairy tale name.JPG | ||
Fairy tale name.JPG | :Holding hands.JPG | ||
Holding hands.JPG | :Sun block.JPG | ||
Sun block.JPG | :1.JPG | ||
1.JPG | :The 11 doc 1.GIF | ||
The 11 doc 1.GIF | :stepping up.JPG | ||
stepping up.JPG | |||
Suggested pics .[[User:Trogaf|Trogaf]] 22:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC) | Suggested pics .[[User:Trogaf|Trogaf]] 22:17, April 5, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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<p style="text-align:justify">Eh.... lets see. No. Happy? [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 17:36, May 2, 2010 (UTC)</p> | |||
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::Thank you. I actually quite liked this little theory, made me giggle. Same some childish person had to ruin in with behavour like that. [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 16:05, May 13, 2010 (UTC) | ::Thank you. I actually quite liked this little theory, made me giggle. Same some childish person had to ruin in with behavour like that. [[User:Fan555|Fan555]] 16:05, May 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:: The user was [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/86.31.74.192 86.31.74.192], I have put Fan555's original comment back and left off the vulgarity. [[Special:Contributions/152.131.9.132|152.131.9.132]] 20:42, October 20, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== The Raggedy Doctor == | == The Raggedy Doctor == | ||
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: Has anyone else noticed the Eleventh Doctor's awful driving skills - only twice has he arrived where he wanted to be (taking Amy home and travelling to Venice) - every other time he has overshot ([[The Eleventh Hour]]), undershot ([[Victory of the Daleks]]), landed by chance ([[The Beast Below]]), or missed entirely ([[The Hungry Earth]]). On each of these occasions, however, he has landed just in time to prevent a catastrophy. Is he just a poor pilot, or is the TARDIS directing him to times/places which need him? [[User:Unhari|Unhari]] 21:44, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | : Has anyone else noticed the Eleventh Doctor's awful driving skills - only twice has he arrived where he wanted to be (taking Amy home and travelling to Venice) - every other time he has overshot ([[The Eleventh Hour]]), undershot ([[Victory of the Daleks]]), landed by chance ([[The Beast Below]]), or missed entirely ([[The Hungry Earth]]). On each of these occasions, however, he has landed just in time to prevent a catastrophy. Is he just a poor pilot, or is the TARDIS directing him to times/places which need him? [[User:Unhari|Unhari]] 21:44, May 22, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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: It's a trait that was shared by the Second Doctor, who Smith seems to be mirroring in both appearance and mannerisms and who the writers are referencing in plots ([[The Beast Below]]/[[The Macra Terror]] , [[Power of the Daleks]]/[[Victory of the Daleks]], [[The Time of Angels]], [[Flesh and Stone]]/[[Tomb of the Cybermen]] ). The Second Doctor couldn't actually control where his TARDIS went at all; at the beginning of [[The Web of Fear]] , an exasperated Jamie tells him he can never control it and he arrogantly replies "Oh? We'll see about that!". Idly, Victoria then wonders where they're going to end up this time... [[User:DeadWalrus|DeadWalrus]] 00:18, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | : It's a trait that was shared by the Second Doctor, who Smith seems to be mirroring in both appearance and mannerisms and who the writers are referencing in plots ([[The Beast Below]]/[[The Macra Terror]] , [[The Power of the Daleks]]/[[Victory of the Daleks]], [[The Time of Angels]], [[Flesh and Stone]]/[[Tomb of the Cybermen]] ). The Second Doctor couldn't actually control where his TARDIS went at all; at the beginning of [[The Web of Fear]] , an exasperated Jamie tells him he can never control it and he arrogantly replies "Oh? We'll see about that!". Idly, Victoria then wonders where they're going to end up this time... [[User:DeadWalrus|DeadWalrus]] 00:18, June 2, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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I'm okay with it, anyone else? Also sign your posts --[[User:LOLKING|LOLKING]] 00:29, June 27, 2010 (UTC) | I'm okay with it, anyone else? Also sign your posts --[[User:LOLKING|LOLKING]] 00:29, June 27, 2010 (UTC) | ||
:I think is section is well over-the-top. It should be limited to actual alias used by him (such as John Smith), or nicknames/titles used by those that known him (such as the Oncoming Storm). Things such as "Imaginary Friend", "Caesar" and "The Rotmister" should be discounted as "one offs", "Imaginary Firend" isnt even a name/alias. [[User:Looq|Looq]] 00:12, July 6, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*It is way over the top. I actually think it was better when we simply linked to the section of the Aliases used by the Doctor article for each incarnation. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 11:24, July 6, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::*Here is the list from the front page. To be honest I think "The Raggedy Doctor" and "The Oncomming Storm" are the only one that should be included. "The Dream Lord" wasn't really him (we can argue semantics, bur it was a seperate character), "Last of the Time Lords" is not really a name and the rest were "one-offs" and most of which were jokes and not true aliases. If we put down every reference made about him throught the show, we'd have a list of dozens by the end of the next series. [[User:Looq|Looq]] 19:04, July 6, 2010 (UTC) | |||
::**"The Raggedy Doctor" | |||
::**The Dream Lord | |||
::**The Oncoming Storm | |||
::**Last of the Time Lords | |||
::**Him In The Bow Tie | |||
::**Mr. Grumpy Face | |||
::**Captain Troy Handsome | |||
::**The Rotmeister | |||
::**Caesar | |||
::**Imaginary Friend | |||
::**Mr Raggedy | |||
::**Raggedy man | |||
::**Silly old Doctor | |||
::**Flop-Haired Wuss | |||
::**Veggie | |||
== Binoculars == | |||
On the list of things that he pulls from his pockets, binoculars are listed two times. | |||
== TARDIS Manual == | |||
How do we know the 11th Dr threw out the manual. It could have been the 9th or 10th maybe the 8th. The Doctor only said something like "I threw it out" which doesn't '''necessarily''' mean the 11th Doctor did it. | |||
[[Special:Contributions/116.250.51.26|116.250.51.26]] 08:40, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
:Well, he never mentioned it before this regeneration, but I suppose your theory is plausible. Now, I only watch the TV show (so I am unfamiliar with any canonical non-television Doctor Who media), but the last supernova to which I remember the Doctor being proximate was the one he used to contact Rose Tyler after she was trapped in Pete's World after the events of "Doomsday." [[User:Memcginn|Memcginn]] 02:46, July 18, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== A funny juxtoposition == | |||
This is for the benefit of editors who are registered members. If you edit without registering, Wikia places ads on random places on the page, which is rather annoying. But it just did a funny one with this article. Under the section "Clothes" there is a big ad (larger than the Eleventh Doctor photo) for diapers! "I'm wearing diapers now - diapers are cool!" [[Special:Contributions/68.146.81.123|68.146.81.123]] 13:17, July 7, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Dream Lord == | |||
If this Doctor is also known as the Dream Lord, shouldn,t all the others be as well. The dream lord is not the dark side of the eleventh doctor. he is the dark side of the doctor in general([[Special:Contributions/90.220.223.103|90.220.223.103]] 08:01, July 27, 2010 (UTC)) | |||
*Technically, they're all the same person, so should have only one page, but we separate them because each has a different face and personality, which would gain them different names from each other. The also known as section is for other names which that incarnation has been known as. [[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 09:24, July 27, 2010 (UTC) | |||
==Also Known As== | |||
The also known as section has to many names that don't really belong there. Nobody knew the Doctor as the Dream Lord. The Dream Lord was the Doctor's dark side, but nobody everer reffered to the doctor as the dream lord. The Dream Lord is essentially a seperate character. Other names are there that are really unncessary, such as veggie. The Dream Lord called him veggie once or twice to make fun of him but the Doctor was never really known as veggie. Last of the timelords is what the Doctor is, but he is not known as that. Mr. Grumpy Face just described his mood, once. The only names that should really be in that section are names that people actually call the Doctor. The only other Doctor whose AKA section is as long or longer than this one is the tenth, who was around for about 4 years longer than this one has been so far.Icecreamdif 01:35, August 5, 2010 (UTC) | |||
== Episode Descriptions == | |||
I think the article could do with a lot of cleanup in the "travels description" area. It is unnecessarily detailed and excessively long. We don't really need to know every detail of what happened in an episode - there's the episode's own page for that. Just a few basic notes about any significant or unusual actions the Doctor took, or how the events affected him (if at all), and a couple of namedrops are all that's required. | |||
The Key Events section could also use a serious trim - it's almost as long as the Tenth Doctor's already, and we've only had one season![[User:SpiritMuse| SpiritMuse]] 16:32, August 8, 2010 (UTC) | |||
