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Most importantly: why are the Cybusmen in our universe in the first place? They're all trapped in the void. And don't say they're in our universe because they were in the Pandorica Opens. Presumably the cracks and the decaying universe allowed them to get out of the void. After the Big Bang, they will once again be trapped. My theory: Presumably there is a Mondas, and therefor Mondasian cybermen in Pete's World. John Lumic based the design for his cybermen on plans of these Mondasian Cybermen. He probably got the designs from International Electromatics, the company from the invasion (as he was seen using vans with the IE logo, I presume he bought the company). It would be too much of a coincidence that the Cybusmen were so much like our cybermen. [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] 11:33, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | Most importantly: why are the Cybusmen in our universe in the first place? They're all trapped in the void. And don't say they're in our universe because they were in the Pandorica Opens. Presumably the cracks and the decaying universe allowed them to get out of the void. After the Big Bang, they will once again be trapped. My theory: Presumably there is a Mondas, and therefor Mondasian cybermen in Pete's World. John Lumic based the design for his cybermen on plans of these Mondasian Cybermen. He probably got the designs from International Electromatics, the company from the invasion (as he was seen using vans with the IE logo, I presume he bought the company). It would be too much of a coincidence that the Cybusmen were so much like our cybermen. [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] 11:33, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
::Sorry, but that is total speculation and is in no way helpful to the discussion. They were in "The Next Doctor" after being trapped in the void, so it is perfectly reasonably that they would be here too. | ::Sorry, but that is total speculation and is in no way helpful to the discussion. They were in "The Next Doctor" after being trapped in the void, so it is perfectly reasonably that they would be here too. | ||
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::And there is not more evidence that they are Mondasian Cybermen than Cybus Cybermen. The Cybus ones ''do'' have spaceships, as proven in ''The Pandorica Opens'' when River specifically says Cyberships. We don't know if the Cybus ones have Cybermats and is speculative to say. The can easily be thousands of years old... they were at the Pandorica implying they can time travel. The only thing that says Mondasion (and is still speculative to say that the Cybus ones don't hibernate). As a friend of mine once said, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's most probably a duck. They walk, look and speak like the Cybus Cybermen, they are most probably them. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 13:26, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | ::And there is not more evidence that they are Mondasian Cybermen than Cybus Cybermen. The Cybus ones ''do'' have spaceships, as proven in ''The Pandorica Opens'' when River specifically says Cyberships. We don't know if the Cybus ones have Cybermats and is speculative to say. The can easily be thousands of years old... they were at the Pandorica implying they can time travel. The only thing that says Mondasion (and is still speculative to say that the Cybus ones don't hibernate). As a friend of mine once said, if it walks like a duck, looks like a duck and quacks like a duck... it's most probably a duck. They walk, look and speak like the Cybus Cybermen, they are most probably them. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 13:26, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | ||
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::More speculation, but I think there will be at least a two-parter next season with the Cybermen in, and I reckon there will be another remaking of the Cybermen, possibly the Mondasians finding a Cybus Cyberman and stealing their designs, so that the Mondasians will look like the Cybus and then the Cybus will be removed completely. [[Special:Contributions/82.33.57.244|82.33.57.244]] 13:31, July 10, 2010 (UTC) | |||
