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::*''Voyager'' is officially ''Doctor Who Graphic Novel: ''Voyager'', and was co-published by BBC Books. The book acknowledges DWM in its frontispiece, but it's very clearly not a DWMS. | ::*''Voyager'' is officially ''Doctor Who Graphic Novel: ''Voyager'', and was co-published by BBC Books. The book acknowledges DWM in its frontispiece, but it's very clearly not a DWMS. | ||
::*''Dalek Chronicles'' is, as explained in the talk on its page, ''explicitly'' a part of DWMS. It's just a Summer Special. Yes, a rather extraordinary one, but officially that's what it is. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 10:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | ::*''Dalek Chronicles'' is, as explained in the talk on its page, ''explicitly'' a part of DWMS. It's just a Summer Special. Yes, a rather extraordinary one, but officially that's what it is. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 10:39, 24 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
:Hi! Bit late getting to this one, sorry, but I don't remember intending [[Doctor Who Magazine - Graphic Novels]] page to include the word '''Magazine'''. I am aware of the varying use of the term graphic novel (usually loosely) which was why I looked for a definition eventually deciding to use the criteria as used in [[Howe's Transcendental Toybox]], and outlined at the top of the article. I recognised some of the differences between what was listed (eg. those by Marvel and the Panini Series of Trade Paperbacks) hence the divisions in order to group them better. Furthermore all inclusions on this page take some reference in their promotion, advertising or, stated on the cover, describing them as graphic novels (whether this is in accordance with a specific definition or not). As a page that brings together collected comic strips together as stand-alone editions I still can't see what the fuss is about, other than the Magazine word at the top which needs to be removed. Perhaps a new proposed title would be [[Doctor Who - Graphic novels and comic collections]] !! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 04:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC) | :Hi! Bit late getting to this one, sorry, but I don't remember intending [[Doctor Who Magazine graphic novels|Doctor Who Magazine - Graphic Novels]] page to include the word '''Magazine'''. I am aware of the varying use of the term graphic novel (usually loosely) which was why I looked for a definition eventually deciding to use the criteria as used in [[Howe's Transcendental Toybox]], and outlined at the top of the article. I recognised some of the differences between what was listed (eg. those by Marvel and the Panini Series of Trade Paperbacks) hence the divisions in order to group them better. Furthermore all inclusions on this page take some reference in their promotion, advertising or, stated on the cover, describing them as graphic novels (whether this is in accordance with a specific definition or not). As a page that brings together collected comic strips together as stand-alone editions I still can't see what the fuss is about, other than the Magazine word at the top which needs to be removed. Perhaps a new proposed title would be [[Doctor Who - Graphic novels and comic collections]] !! [[User:The Librarian|The Librarian]] 04:00, 25 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
::The problem for me is that this definition doesn't match any definition of "graphic novel" that I've ever heard. Knowing now that it came from a ''Doctor Who'' source, it makes sense. Obviously Howe was trying to come up with a definition that fit every example he was trying to catalogue, rather than using a commonly accepted definition. The bigger problem, though, is that the infoboxes on this site want to note the series to which something belongs. Currently, all these so-called "graphic novels" point back to this page, implying they're all part of the same series. Clearly they're not. The article needs to be split so that appropriate linkages can be made, and so that people who come from a comics background into ''Doctor Who'' won't be confused. In short, Howe is simply not a good source to use for understanding the term "graphic novel". And this article basically creates a topic that doesn't exist. Basically, we've created an article out of something that should never have grown past being a simple list. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 23:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC) | ::The problem for me is that this definition doesn't match any definition of "graphic novel" that I've ever heard. Knowing now that it came from a ''Doctor Who'' source, it makes sense. Obviously Howe was trying to come up with a definition that fit every example he was trying to catalogue, rather than using a commonly accepted definition. The bigger problem, though, is that the infoboxes on this site want to note the series to which something belongs. Currently, all these so-called "graphic novels" point back to this page, implying they're all part of the same series. Clearly they're not. The article needs to be split so that appropriate linkages can be made, and so that people who come from a comics background into ''Doctor Who'' won't be confused. In short, Howe is simply not a good source to use for understanding the term "graphic novel". And this article basically creates a topic that doesn't exist. Basically, we've created an article out of something that should never have grown past being a simple list. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 23:48, 26 July 2008 (UTC) | ||
