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Then also a separate page for '''Big Finish - Gallifrey (series) Audio Dramas'''.
Then also a separate page for '''Big Finish - Gallifrey (series) Audio Dramas'''.


Put Sarah Jane Smith and UNIT together as...'''Big Finish - Earth Based Audio Dramas''' or something like that.
Put Sarah Jane Smith and UNIT together as...'''Big Finish - Earth Based Audio Dramas''' or something like that.
Also the Cybermen series will need some where to go as well.
Also the Cybermen series will need some where to go as well.
--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 04:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
--[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 04:29, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
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::: Big Finish does make other stuff other than audios: they publish the Short Trips anthologies, the Bernice Summerfield stories, the 2000ad, Saphire and Steel and Tomorrow People audios as well. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 13:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
::: Big Finish does make other stuff other than audios: they publish the Short Trips anthologies, the Bernice Summerfield stories, the 2000ad, Saphire and Steel and Tomorrow People audios as well. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 13:27, 14 April 2007 (UTC)
===Continuing with this idea===
===Continuing with this idea===
I am glad that the idea for separate pages for each of these series has gone forward, in lage measure. However, I think that this page should '''only''' be about the monthly range. Period. Everything else needs to be firmly moved to its own page, with explanatory text added. [[Doctor Who Unbound]], for example, belongs solely on its own page. It's entirely and quite deliberately its own range. Just because the words "Doctor Who" are in the title is no reason to put a range on ''this'' page. Also, the list itself should be on its own list page. For instance, there should be [[Doctor Who monthly series audios]] and [[List of Doctor Who monthly series audios]]. There's a hell of a lot that could be said about just the standard, monthly range, as evidenced by the wikipedia article on the same subject.   It's quite unsatisfactory having the series title link in the infoboxes taking you to what's merely a list page, for all intents and purposes. I want to know ''about'' the series, not just the titles in that range. Why the Eighth Doctor Adventures are "New" isn't really addressed by clicking on the link. A new user might be confused by what a "Companion Chronicle" is, or unsatisfied by the one or two lines about what makes something "unbound" or what Gallifrey is all about, or what makes the Sarah Jane series different than its two televised counterparts. We in general need to take a step back and consider that the most basic questions about these series still aren't answered by this wiki.
I am glad that the idea for separate pages for each of these series has gone forward, in lage measure. However, I think that this page should '''only''' be about the monthly range. Period. Everything else needs to be firmly moved to its own page, with explanatory text added. [[Doctor Who Unbound]], for example, belongs solely on its own page. It's entirely and quite deliberately its own range. Just because the words "Doctor Who" are in the title is no reason to put a range on ''this'' page. Also, the list itself should be on its own list page. For instance, there should be [[Doctor Who monthly series audios]] and [[List of Doctor Who monthly series audios]]. There's a hell of a lot that could be said about just the standard, monthly range, as evidenced by the wikipedia article on the same subject. It's quite unsatisfactory having the series title link in the infoboxes taking you to what's merely a list page, for all intents and purposes. I want to know ''about'' the series, not just the titles in that range. Why the Eighth Doctor Adventures are "New" isn't really addressed by clicking on the link. A new user might be confused by what a "Companion Chronicle" is, or unsatisfied by the one or two lines about what makes something "unbound" or what Gallifrey is all about, or what makes the Sarah Jane series different than its two televised counterparts. We in general need to take a step back and consider that the most basic questions about these series still aren't answered by this wiki.


And we might want to consider whether there needs to be a standard naming convention applied. Here's a sample of how it all looks now:
And we might want to consider whether there needs to be a standard naming convention applied. Here's a sample of how it all looks now:


*[[Doctor Who Unbound]] — I suppose the thinking here is that there's no other ''Doctor Who Unbound'' out there. But aren't there short stories labelled ''Doctor Who Unbound'' stories? I would tend to think there needs to be one page explaining the term "[[unbound]]" (how that's the equivalent to ''Star Wars'' "infinities", or DC's "elseworlds", for instance), and then one page on the series itself.
*[[Doctor Who Unbound]] — I suppose the thinking here is that there's no other ''Doctor Who Unbound'' out there. But aren't there short stories labelled ''Doctor Who Unbound'' stories? I would tend to think there needs to be one page explaining the term "[[unbound]]" (how that's the equivalent to ''Star Wars'' "infinities", or DC's "elseworlds", for instance), and then one page on the series itself.
*[[Dalek Empire (Big Finish)]] is strange, in that it names Big Finish in its title, whereas the majority of these pages just say "audio series"
*[[Dalek Empire (Big Finish)]] is strange, in that it names Big Finish in its title, whereas the majority of these pages just say "audio series"
*[[Cyberman (audio series)]]
*[[Cyberman (audio series)]]
*[[I, Davros]] is slightly odd in that it's unmodified. Presumably this is because there's no other ''I, Davros'' out there, but you face a basic arbitrary decision with this one. One wiki "convention" says that if there's nothing else of that name, it doesn't need to be modified. Another says you should name things in an easy-to-find manner. If virtually everything else that's an audio series follows a pattern, isn't it easier-to-find if you make this one follow the same pattern?
*[[I, Davros]] is slightly odd in that it's unmodified. Presumably this is because there's no other ''I, Davros'' out there, but you face a basic arbitrary decision with this one. One wiki "convention" says that if there's nothing else of that name, it doesn't need to be modified. Another says you should name things in an easy-to-find manner. If virtually everything else that's an audio series follows a pattern, isn't it easier-to-find if you make this one follow the same pattern?
*[[Gallifrey (audio series)]]
*[[Gallifrey (audio series)]]
*[[U.N.I.T. (audio series)]] is slightly awkward as it follows a different spelling of UNIT to the [[UNIT]] page.  
*[[U.N.I.T. (audio series)]] is slightly awkward as it follows a different spelling of UNIT to the [[UNIT]] page.
*[[Iris Wildthyme (audio series)]]
*[[Iris Wildthyme (audio series)]]


The basic predeliction seems to be to write [[Series name (audio series)]]. But given how Big Finish have named the main line (namely, "Doctor Who monthly series"), I think a better standard might be the much simpler, ]]Series Name audios]]. So, [[Sarah Jane Smith audios]], [[Companion Chronicles audios]], [[Dalek Empire audios]] etc. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 09:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)
The basic predeliction seems to be to write [[Series name (audio series)]]. But given how Big Finish have named the main line (namely, "Doctor Who monthly series"), I think a better standard might be the much simpler, ]]Series Name audios]]. So, [[Sarah Jane Smith audios]], [[Companion Chronicles audios]], [[Dalek Empire audios]] etc. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 09:31, 18 July 2008 (UTC)


:I was about to suggest we make a seperate page for the 8th Doctor/Lucie adventures and the companion chronicles, since they're now just more than mini-series. Looks like someone already beat me to suggesting it. I don't think this page should be solely the mainline monthly series though, but sort of the hub to where visitors can get access to all the series. --Colleyd 17:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)Woof.
:I was about to suggest we make a seperate page for the 8th Doctor/Lucie adventures and the companion chronicles, since they're now just more than mini-series. Looks like someone already beat me to suggesting it. I don't think this page should be solely the mainline monthly series though, but sort of the hub to where visitors can get access to all the series. --Colleyd 17:59, 22 July 2008 (UTC)Woof.
:: I think a page about the New Eighth Doctor Adventures (the ones with Lucie) should have their own page, unless they do already in which case I haven't found it. I'd love to know more about the series and information from the Big Finish Site is rather hard to come by... I'd also love to know why Series 4 has taken far longer than the other 3 seasons, but that's eluding me too.--[[Special:Contributions/68.111.242.170|68.111.242.170]] 09:49, October 15, 2010 (UTC)


:: At the moment i don't see a problem but i think the CC should definatly have there own since they are releasing then 12 a year however unless the new 8th doc adventures gets renewed for a third season and or fourth season i don't think its long enough to warrant its own page [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 09:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
:: At the moment i don't see a problem but i think the CC should definatly have there own since they are releasing then 12 a year however unless the new 8th doc adventures gets renewed for a third season and or fourth season i don't think its long enough to warrant its own page [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 09:00, 23 July 2008 (UTC)
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:: Thanks for that i seemed to have missed it :) [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 07:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:: Thanks for that i seemed to have missed it :) [[User:Dark Lord Xander|Dark Lord Xander]] 07:30, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Given that the Iris Wildthyme stuff has its own page, and it's only got two releases — or that K9 and Company never went beyond a pilot but is still considered a series — I don't think size of series is really a factor when determining whether it gets its own page. The NEDAs are definitionally a new vision for the character which has its own internal continuity. Far as I can see, there's only the most oblique reference from the NEDAs to the previous 8th Doctor stories by BF, in the form of [[Vortisaur]]s. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 08:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)
:::Given that the Iris Wildthyme stuff has its own page, and it's only got two releases — or that K9 and Company never went beyond a pilot but is still considered a series —I don't think size of series is really a factor when determining whether it gets its own page. The NEDAs are definitionally a new vision for the character which has its own internal continuity. Far as I can see, there's only the most oblique reference from the NEDAs to the previous 8th Doctor stories by BF, in the form of [[Vortisaur]]s. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 08:48, 24 July 2008 (UTC)


== The Gallifreyan Civil War ==
== The Gallifreyan Civil War ==
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