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===Within DWU=== | ===Within DWU=== | ||
====[[Auton Trilogy|The Auton Trilogy]]==== | ====[[Auton Trilogy|The Auton Trilogy]]==== | ||
*[[Auton (video)|Auton]] | *[[Auton (video)|Auton]] | ||
*[[Auton 2: Sentinel]] | *[[Auton 2: Sentinel]] | ||
*[[Auton 3: Awakening]] | *[[Auton 3: Awakening]] | ||
*[[Zygon: When Being You Just Isn't Enough]] and by extension its prequel: [[Cyberon (video)|Cyberon]] | *[[Zygon: When Being You Just Isn't Enough]] and by extension its prequel: [[Cyberon (video)|Cyberon]] ('''''Cyberon'' definitely not DWU.''' {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} ) | ||
====[[The Time Travellers (series)|The Time Travellers]]==== (the Doctor and ace with new names) | ====[[The Time Travellers (series)|The Time Travellers]]==== | ||
(the Doctor and ace with new names) | |||
'''ABSOLUTELY NOT DWU''' {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
*[[Republica]] | *[[Republica]] | ||
*[[Island of Lost Souls]] | *[[Island of Lost Souls]] | ||
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*[[Blood Sports]] | *[[Blood Sports]] | ||
*[[Punchline]] | *[[Punchline]] | ||
====[[Adventures in a Pocket Universe]]==== | |||
====[[Adventures in a Pocket Universe]]==== (both with K9 in as far as i know) | (both with K9 in as far as i know) | ||
'''Perhaps DWU, but K9 isn't [[K9 Mark II]] and The Mistress isn't [[Romana II]].''' {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
*[[The Choice]] | *[[The Choice]] | ||
*[[The Search]] | *[[The Search]] | ||
====Zygons==== | ====Zygons==== | ||
*[[Zygons: Homeland]] | *[[Zygons: Homeland]] | ||
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*[[Sontarans: Conduct Unbecoming]] | *[[Sontarans: Conduct Unbecoming]] | ||
* | * | ||
====The [[I]]==== (from [[Seeing I]] for convenience) | ====The [[I]]==== | ||
(from [[Seeing I]] for convenience) | |||
*[[I Scream]] | *[[I Scream]] | ||
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====[[Faction Paradox (series)#The Faction Paradox Protocols .28BBV.29|The Faction Paradox Protocols]]==== | ====[[Faction Paradox (series)#The Faction Paradox Protocols .28BBV.29|The Faction Paradox Protocols]]==== | ||
'''I don't personally see FP as part of the DWU; it's written so as to avoid copyright issues with the BBC, but maybe there's a point of ''definite'' intersection I'm missing.''' {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
*[[The Eleven Day Empire]] | *[[The Eleven Day Empire]] | ||
*[[The Shadow Play]] | *[[The Shadow Play]] | ||
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====Mike Yates==== | ====Mike Yates==== | ||
*[[The Killing Stone]] (actually has the Fourth Doctor in it, no "dentist" type thing) | *[[The Killing Stone]] (actually has the Fourth Doctor in it, no "dentist" type thing) | ||
:'''Don't know about this. The fact that it has fourth Doctor in it is dubious. Can't imagine he's there ''legally''. Can't imagine Mike Yates is, either. Both characters wholly owned by the BBC and BBC definitely didn't license this puppy so it's fan fiction, I'm afraid.''' {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
====Guy de Carnac ([[Sanctuary]])==== | ====Guy de Carnac ([[Sanctuary]])==== | ||
*[[The Quality of Mercy]] | *[[The Quality of Mercy]] | ||
====[[P.R.O.B.E.]]==== ([[Liz Shaw]] | ====[[P.R.O.B.E.]]==== | ||
([[Liz Shaw]]) | |||
*[[The Zero Imperative]] | *[[The Zero Imperative]] | ||
*[[The Devil of Winterborne]] | *[[The Devil of Winterborne]] | ||
*[[Unnatural Selection]] | *[[Unnatural Selection]] | ||
*[[Ghosts of Winterborne]] | *[[Ghosts of Winterborne]] | ||
:'''Is Liz Shaw legally present here? I'm pretty sure she's a BBC-owned character, so how is she present? If rights weren't sold, it's just fan fiction.''' {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
===Unsure=== | ===Unsure=== | ||
'''No need to be unsure about any of this. None of it in DWU. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
====Cyberons==== | ====Cyberons==== | ||
*[[Cybergeddon]] | *[[Cybergeddon]] | ||
====[[The Stranger]]==== | ====[[The Stranger]]==== | ||
*[[Summoned by Shadows]] | *[[Summoned by Shadows]] | ||
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::::''Adventures in a Pocket Universe'' is tricky, though. Okay, it's a character called "K9", but is it ''our'' K9? Was there actual permission obtained from Baker and Martin? And it's ''definitely'' not Romana, even if played by Lalla Ward. So I'm not sure how you'd easily refer to this work in, say, pages about K9. It's total speculation that this is K9 Mark II who went off with Romana II at the end of ''Warriors' Gate'' — even if that's what the writer is implying. Frankly, I think it deserves to be considered [[K9 (BBV)]], and definitely shouldn't be mixed with the DWU K9 Mk II. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ::::''Adventures in a Pocket Universe'' is tricky, though. Okay, it's a character called "K9", but is it ''our'' K9? Was there actual permission obtained from Baker and Martin? And it's ''definitely'' not Romana, even if played by Lalla Ward. So I'm not sure how you'd easily refer to this work in, say, pages about K9. It's total speculation that this is K9 Mark II who went off with Romana II at the end of ''Warriors' Gate'' — even if that's what the writer is implying. Frankly, I think it deserves to be considered [[K9 (BBV)]], and definitely shouldn't be mixed with the DWU K9 Mk II. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ||
:::::''Infidel's Comet'' is definitely original SF. Nothing to do with DW. Closest connection is that its writers, Colin Hill and Simon Gerard, also wrote ''[[Sontarans: Old Soldiers]]''. But the story definitely has nothing to do with Sontarans or anything DW-related. If any of the actors are related to the DW television programme, they must have had only very minor roles. ''The Pattern'' is similarly original, and definitely shouldn't be covered by us. In fact, neither should even be covered by DWE. Articles like this should be redirected to a page which says something like, "This title has nothing to do with the DWU, but was produced by BBV, a company associated with making semi-canonical DWU stories." {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :::::''Infidel's Comet'' is definitely original SF. Nothing to do with DW. Closest connection is that its writers, Colin Hill and Simon Gerard, also wrote ''[[Sontarans: Old Soldiers]]''. But the story definitely has nothing to do with Sontarans or anything DW-related. If any of the actors are related to the DW television programme, they must have had only very minor roles. ''The Pattern'' is similarly original, and definitely shouldn't be covered by us. In fact, neither should even be covered by DWE. Articles like this should be redirected to a page which says something like, "This title has nothing to do with the DWU, but was produced by BBV, a company associated with making semi-canonical DWU stories." {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ||
:::::::Looking in a more detailed way at Revan's list, I'd note a few problems. | |||
::::::::*[[The Time Travellers (series)]] isn't a part of the DWU and shouldn't be covered here. Again, ''approximations'' of characters wholly owned by the BBC aren't the characters themselves, and so therefore aren't deserving of coverage. | |||
::::::::*[[Cyberon (video)]] is well off the list. There's nothing in the narrative of ''Cyberon'' which is in any way definitively set within the DWU. Cyberons do not exist within the DWU. Trying to retrofit it because the two stories share Dr. Lauren Anderson isn't on. The 100% BBV copyrightable characters aren't of interest to this wiki. | |||
:::::::::*As for other objections, please refer up to Revan's original chart. Kinda laborious typing it all here, when I can just annotate the chart. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | |||
