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:::Actually, I saw that opinion from TD on your talk page, and I think he probably wasn't writing with the precision that he might've liked, on reflection, to use. I mean, Paul Cornell's a professional writer, but that doesn't mean he hasn't written fan fiction. Tons of professional writers have contributed to charity publications, and we routinely rule these out of bounds. The delimiting line isn't the professionalism of the individuals, but rather the legal ''right'' of publication. What makes the BBC Wales series "canon" isn't that RTD and Moffat have been in charge of it, but rather that [[Lorraine Heggessey]] and [[Jane Tranter]] fought for two hard years to get the rights to broadcast it on [[BBC One]]. Thus, the thing that matters with respect to BBV is exactly what rights were actually held by Bill Baggs. And I'm tellin' you right now, there is ''no'' way he ''ever'' had the rights to the Doctor or the Master. No. Freakin'. Way. The Liz Shaw thing we need to investigate more. The FP thing is probably a matter for a wider and more specific debate. But, happily, we are in agreement on the vast majority of these titles and can begin dispensing them forthwith. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | :::Actually, I saw that opinion from TD on your talk page, and I think he probably wasn't writing with the precision that he might've liked, on reflection, to use. I mean, Paul Cornell's a professional writer, but that doesn't mean he hasn't written fan fiction. Tons of professional writers have contributed to charity publications, and we routinely rule these out of bounds. The delimiting line isn't the professionalism of the individuals, but rather the legal ''right'' of publication. What makes the BBC Wales series "canon" isn't that RTD and Moffat have been in charge of it, but rather that [[Lorraine Heggessey]] and [[Jane Tranter]] fought for two hard years to get the rights to broadcast it on [[BBC One]]. Thus, the thing that matters with respect to BBV is exactly what rights were actually held by Bill Baggs. And I'm tellin' you right now, there is ''no'' way he ''ever'' had the rights to the Doctor or the Master. No. Freakin'. Way. The Liz Shaw thing we need to investigate more. The FP thing is probably a matter for a wider and more specific debate. But, happily, we are in agreement on the vast majority of these titles and can begin dispensing them forthwith. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} | ||
::::CzechOut is correct in his interpretation, when I wrote it I got a little bogged down on the fanfic idea. | |||
::::In this instance in relation to BBV we need to be sure on the rights elements. I'll have to go digging around for my VHS copies, hopefully they'll have some fine print on them with regards to who owns what. | |||
::::The Charity Publications are another topic I think we need to revisit / write into the canon policy our stance on them. | |||
::::As to Liz Shaw, I think due to the weird way the BBC licensed stuff the characters are owned by whoever created them, so BBV I would guess must have licenced it from Robert Holmes' estate? Given that he wrote ''Spearhead from Space''. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:28, February 1, 2011 (UTC) |