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*If Donna never appears inside the TARDIS in The Runaway Bride, what draws The Doctor's attention to The Racnoss? | *If Donna never appears inside the TARDIS in The Runaway Bride, what draws The Doctor's attention to The Racnoss? | ||
:Russell T Davies states in the Confidential episode that another temp presumably got dosed. | ::Russell T Davies states in the Confidential episode that another temp presumably got dosed. | ||
*If the Doctor met another temp, why did he die? Would not the other temp have fulfilled Donna's role and saved the Doctor's life? | *If the Doctor met another temp, why did he die? Would not the other temp have fulfilled Donna's role and saved the Doctor's life? | ||
:Not necessarily. Donna is a very confident person, if the other temp was more submissive or shy, she may have accepted the Doctor's way of dealing with a problem she didn't understand, or may not have even have been with him at the moment he needed "stopping". | :Not necessarily. Donna is a very confident person, if the other temp was more submissive or shy, she may have accepted the Doctor's way of dealing with a problem she didn't understand, or may not have even have been with him at the moment he needed "stopping". | ||
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*If Rose has been appearing in that reality since Christmas then she should logically have been doing the same in our universe, there's no reason why she shouldn't that has nothing do with Donna. Why hasn't she found the Doctor throughout the whole of series 3? Furthermore why wasn't she around in "Last of the Time Lords" during the year that never was? She could have been a big help to martha with her technology from the other universe, even if she couldn't it's not like rose to just give up and she would know who martha was considering martha was meant to be a legend in the year that never was. If rose could find the doctor in donna's world on christmas day she should have been able to in our world the time lines were the same at that point, why didn't rose go to torchwood or unit throughout the whole of series 3 and 4. For instance if she had gone to unit during series 4 when martha who had a phone that could summon the doctor to earth was there why didn't she go introduce herself to martha get her to phone the doctor then warn him about the darkness several months before it happened, when he would have had a better chance of stopping it. | *If Rose has been appearing in that reality since Christmas then she should logically have been doing the same in our universe, there's no reason why she shouldn't that has nothing do with Donna. Why hasn't she found the Doctor throughout the whole of series 3? Furthermore why wasn't she around in "Last of the Time Lords" during the year that never was? She could have been a big help to martha with her technology from the other universe, even if she couldn't it's not like rose to just give up and she would know who martha was considering martha was meant to be a legend in the year that never was. If rose could find the doctor in donna's world on christmas day she should have been able to in our world the time lines were the same at that point, why didn't rose go to torchwood or unit throughout the whole of series 3 and 4. For instance if she had gone to unit during series 4 when martha who had a phone that could summon the doctor to earth was there why didn't she go introduce herself to martha get her to phone the doctor then warn him about the darkness several months before it happened, when he would have had a better chance of stopping it. | ||
*Why aren't there cybermen ruling the | *Why aren't there cybermen ruling the Eartg, there would have been no doctor to stop them in the next world [if in Donna's world Rose is still able to cross reality's then the cybermen would still be able to end up in victorian england] there should also be daleks since the doctor would be dead and unable to stop the cult of skaro in Manhattan in the 1930's. Though it could be argued that the Trickster stops catastrophies he might stop these invasions [final experiment cyber king] however is the trickster really a match for either the daleks or the cybermen he seemingly cant stop them when the darkness is coming in Donna's world, and furthermore if he was able to defeat them wouldn't he stop the cult in the thirties in such a way that they would all die and therefore there would be no Caan going back in time to rescue Davros [it would be very unlikely that only caan would have survived again] hence no reality bomb. | ||
::This was written out of time by the [[Time Crack]]s. | ::This was written out of time by the [[Time Crack]]s. | ||
::: Even if the Trickster stopped the Cult of Skaro in the 30s, the Reality Bomb was detonated in another universe (the main continuity) and spread to every universe. The Trickster couldn't prevent it from happening if it were in another universe. | ::: Even if the Trickster stopped the Cult of Skaro in the 30s, the Reality Bomb was detonated in another universe (the main continuity) and spread to every universe. The Trickster couldn't prevent it from happening if it were in another universe. | ||
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::Possibly because they've not gone far away enough to avoid the blast/radiation etc. Roughly how many nuclear bombs would an exploding nuclear storm be worth?, Also, everyone leaving could have been influenced by the Master confirming aliens, which wouldn't have happened in this timeline, as Yana wouldn't have been reminded. OR it could just be that in this univerce, for whatever reason, the people of London decided not to leave. | ::Possibly because they've not gone far away enough to avoid the blast/radiation etc. Roughly how many nuclear bombs would an exploding nuclear storm be worth?, Also, everyone leaving could have been influenced by the Master confirming aliens, which wouldn't have happened in this timeline, as Yana wouldn't have been reminded. OR it could just be that in this univerce, for whatever reason, the people of London decided not to leave. | ||
*[[The Doctor]] died in [[Donna's World]], but he survived in the real world, so shouldn't he still be able to stop the reality bomb with the real [[Donna Noble|Donna]]? | *[[The Doctor]] died in [[Donna's World]], but he survived in the real world, so shouldn't he still be able to stop the reality bomb with the real [[Donna Noble|Donna]]? | ||
::The parallel world was created "around" the real Donna---and there may also have been a parallel reality bomb. If the Trickster stops catastrophies that affect his plans wouldn't he stop the bomb Also where are the daleks. | ::The parallel world was created "around" the real Donna---and there may also have been a parallel reality bomb. If the Trickster stops catastrophies that affect his plans wouldn't he stop the bomb Also where are the daleks. If the stars are supposed to be going out because of the reality bomb then in order for the bomb to work wouldnt the daleks have snatched the earth and thus Donna and Rose should be living under a Dalek ruled earth. There would be no reason for the Daleks not to use Earth as it is weaker now without the Doctor the Valiant, Torchwood Sarah Jane and Martha. | ||
*The stars were going out in the alternate reality, but would the Doctor be dead so he wouldn't have been able to stop the Final Experiment so it would have gone through and Dalek Caan wouldn't have gone and rescued [[Davros]]. | *The stars were going out in the alternate reality, but would the Doctor be dead so he wouldn't have been able to stop the Final Experiment so it would have gone through and Dalek Caan wouldn't have gone and rescued [[Davros]]. | ||
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*The Doctor revealed that the Nuclear Storm drive would wipe out '''all''' life on Earth. This is incorrect as it only destroys London. | *The Doctor revealed that the Nuclear Storm drive would wipe out '''all''' life on Earth. This is incorrect as it only destroys London. | ||
::Someone on board the ship could have prevented it having such a bad effect - perhaps Astrid or Frame. This can possibly be proven by the fact that the Titanic pulls up in the | ::Someone on board the ship could have prevented it having such a bad effect - perhaps Astrid or Frame. This can possibly be proven by the fact that the Titanic pulls up in the news report. Although in real-life this is due to the fact that it was the same footage from ''The Voyage of the Damned'', if taken from an in-universe perspective, someone might have tried to pull-up the Titanic, and although they ulitmately failed, it wasn't a direct impact, and so the effect were reduced. In ''The Voyage of the Damned'', the Doctor could have been explaining what could happen in the worst-case senario, i.e. a full impact. It's also possible that the Doctor exaggerated or was mistaken. Or, in [[SJA]]: [[Whatever Happened to Sarah Jane?]] it's established that the Trickster intervened during this time period to prevent world-ending catastrophes caused by his meddling; perhaps he did so in this case as well. Then wouldn't the Trickster make sure the bomb didn't happen as it would obviously compromise his plans. | ||
* Why would an emergency government, greatly limited in funds already, install the probably expensive ATMOS in all its vehicles? | * Why would an emergency government, greatly limited in funds already, install the probably expensive ATMOS in all its vehicles? | ||
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::(As stated in ''[[The Parting of the Ways]]'', the words "Bad Wolf" had been scattered by Rose "throughout time" as a reminder of the connection between herself and the Doctor. | ::(As stated in ''[[The Parting of the Ways]]'', the words "Bad Wolf" had been scattered by Rose "throughout time" as a reminder of the connection between herself and the Doctor. | ||
:::Then shouldn't Rose have known about the darkness since series 4 and tried to warn the Doctor sooner like say when the Cult of Skaro first arrived. | :::Then shouldn't Rose have known about the darkness since series 4 and tried to warn the Doctor sooner like say when the Cult of Skaro first arrived. | ||
::::''The Parting of the Ways'', just before the regeneration, establishes that Rose forgot much about her experience as the Bad Wolf. | ::::''The Parting of the Ways'', just before the regeneration, establishes that Rose forgot much about her experience as the Bad Wolf. | ||
:::::It's also possible, remembering that Rose had access to the TARDIS in the alternate timeline, that she somehow got it to communicate with the real-time TARDIS and have it project the imagery, perhaps as a fail-safe in case Donna was unable to remember the message. | :::::It's also possible, remembering that Rose had access to the TARDIS in the alternate timeline, that she somehow got it to communicate with the real-time TARDIS and have it project the imagery, perhaps as a fail-safe in case Donna was unable to remember the message. | ||
*In Donna's universe, the Adipose still came to Earth. In this universe, the Adipose breeding planet would not have been lost (not stolen by the Daleks) and they would have no reason to come to Earth. | *In Donna's universe, the Adipose still came to Earth. In this universe, the Adipose breeding planet would not have been lost (not stolen by the Daleks) and they would have no reason to come to Earth. | ||
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* In Voyage of the Damned, everyone in London went to the countryside at Christmas. When the Titanic crashed, the only people who would have still been there is the Queen. Why do they apparently stay in this episode when there is nothing has changed since the Doctor's death to make it so? | * In Voyage of the Damned, everyone in London went to the countryside at Christmas. When the Titanic crashed, the only people who would have still been there is the Queen. Why do they apparently stay in this episode when there is nothing has changed since the Doctor's death to make it so? | ||
: | : ::Changes in time create different scenarios, though some things can be assumed or shown to have changed we do not know for sure what happens in this one. the people of London may have decided to stay out of a misguided attempt at defiance or some other reason. it is perfectly reasonable to assume that the time line being changed created a slight change in persona of the London people. | ||
