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:The front page is the most correct. This is the TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who Wiki. | :The front page is the most correct. This is the TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who Wiki. | ||
:I seem to recall some time ago the front page's article name was changed from being 'main page' to being what it is at the moment, 'Doctor Who Wiki', which is probably where the contention regarding the name came about. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 13:18, December 25, 2009 (UTC) | :I seem to recall some time ago the front page's article name was changed from being 'main page' to being what it is at the moment, 'Doctor Who Wiki', which is probably where the contention regarding the name came about. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 13:18, December 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Thing is, from a copyediting standpoint, the front page looks wrong. It should be either ''Welcome to the TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who wiki that anyone can edit'' ("TARDIS Index File" is the official title, "a Doctor Who wiki" is a description that applies to both this web site and others and grammatically belongs to the "which anyone can edit" phrase) or ''Welcome to the TARDIS Index | ::Thing is, from a copyediting standpoint, the front page looks wrong. It should be either ''Welcome to the TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who wiki that anyone can edit'' ("TARDIS Index File" is the official title, "a Doctor Who wiki" is a description that applies to both this web site and others and grammatically belongs to the "which anyone can edit" phrase) or ''Welcome to the TARDIS Index file: A Doctor Who Wiki, which anyone can edit'' (the title is "TARDIS Index file: A Doctor Who Wiki"; "A Doctor Who Wiki" is the subtitle, part of the official name, and grammatically distinct from the "which anyone can edit" phrase).--[[User:Bedawyn|Bedawyn]] 20:23, December 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:I use "TARDIS Wiki", personally. {{SUBST::User:Robomilk/autosig}} 20:30, December 25, 2009 (UTC) | :I use "TARDIS Wiki", personally. {{SUBST::User:Robomilk/autosig}} 20:30, December 25, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::In which case I'd be in favour of TARDIS Index | ::In which case I'd be in favour of TARDIS Index file: a Doctor Who Wiki. Does the "a" need to be there or could it be "TARDIS Index file: Doctor Who Wiki"? (I've read it so many times over I'm not sure if it's just me imagining it sounds awkward without the "a"). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 10:56, December 26, 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::If "Doctor Who Wiki" is used as an official subtitle, the "a" needs to be both present and capitalized. However, I am concerned about that appearing in the page titles the way it currently does, which implies both that this is the only Doctor Who wiki and that "Doctor Who Wiki" is a more important part of the name than "TARDIS Index File". --[[User:Bedawyn|Bedawyn]] 15:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC) | :::If "Doctor Who Wiki" is used as an official subtitle, the "a" needs to be both present and capitalized. However, I am concerned about that appearing in the page titles the way it currently does, which implies both that this is the only Doctor Who wiki and that "Doctor Who Wiki" is a more important part of the name than "TARDIS Index File". --[[User:Bedawyn|Bedawyn]] 15:10, December 26, 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:::::Well, an html page title isn't the same thing as a proper name. I've haven't seen Memory Alpha use anything but just "Memory Alpha" as the name of the site. The phrase "the Star Trek Wiki" that appears in the page titles is a description, just like "the free encyclopedia" at Wikipedia is just a description. Having it in the html title helps the search engines (which is the strongest advantage I can see of using "Doctor Who Wiki" in the page titles here), but it's still not part of the official name. Sites can use a proper name as their page title, but they don't have to; many don't, and depending on what your proper name is, using it as the page title might even be a bad decision. As for the capitalization in the html title, that's a style choice. Wikipedia is using sentence case. Memory Alpha is mixing sentence case and title case. Mixing is generally bad, but as long as they're consistently using sentence case for the variable article title and title case for the boilerplate part, it can pass. It looks weird to me, but it is a matter of style rather correctness, and so not worth fussing over. | :::::Well, an html page title isn't the same thing as a proper name. I've haven't seen Memory Alpha use anything but just "Memory Alpha" as the name of the site. The phrase "the Star Trek Wiki" that appears in the page titles is a description, just like "the free encyclopedia" at Wikipedia is just a description. Having it in the html title helps the search engines (which is the strongest advantage I can see of using "Doctor Who Wiki" in the page titles here), but it's still not part of the official name. Sites can use a proper name as their page title, but they don't have to; many don't, and depending on what your proper name is, using it as the page title might even be a bad decision. As for the capitalization in the html title, that's a style choice. Wikipedia is using sentence case. Memory Alpha is mixing sentence case and title case. Mixing is generally bad, but as long as they're consistently using sentence case for the variable article title and title case for the boilerplate part, it can pass. It looks weird to me, but it is a matter of style rather correctness, and so not worth fussing over. | ||
:::::It would make me very happy to have the html titles here say either "(Article title) - TARDIS Index | :::::It would make me very happy to have the html titles here say either "(Article title) - TARDIS Index file: A Doctor Who Wiki" or "(Article title) - TARDIS Index File, a Doctor Who wiki". The former uses it as a subtitle, the latter as a description. Both run a little bit long, but I think the SEO value and the clarity for readers is worth the extra length. --[[User:Bedawyn|Bedawyn]] 19:18, December 26, 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::::Righty. So it's either subtitle or description. | ::::::Righty. So it's either subtitle or description. | ||
::::::Both are good, both are valid. | ::::::Both are good, both are valid. | ||
::::::I think we may need to pull in other admins to consider this discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 11:36, December 27, 2009 (UTC) | ::::::I think we may need to pull in other admins to consider this discussion. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 11:36, December 27, 2009 (UTC) | ||
