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As a "PS" to my above, River told the Doctor "that's when everything changes" at the end of ''[[The Big Bang]]'', and things changed pretty drastically with the Doctor getting. Part 2 will likely shed more light on things, but I think given what she told Rory and and the Doctor, that the exact reverse order is the correct one. Any other thoughts? -- [[User:Ripmssmith|Rest In Peace Sarah Jane]] \ [[User_talk:Ripmssmith|Talk to me!]] 15:44, April 25, 2011 (UTC) | As a "PS" to my above, River told the Doctor "that's when everything changes" at the end of ''[[The Big Bang]]'', and things changed pretty drastically with the Doctor getting. Part 2 will likely shed more light on things, but I think given what she told Rory and and the Doctor, that the exact reverse order is the correct one. Any other thoughts? -- [[User:Ripmssmith|Rest In Peace Sarah Jane]] \ [[User_talk:Ripmssmith|Talk to me!]] 15:44, April 25, 2011 (UTC) | ||
I would say that the order is likely to be: | I would say that the order is likely to be: | ||
*''[[The Pandorica Opens (TV story)|The Pandorica Opens ]]'' | *''[[The Pandorica Opens (TV story)|The Pandorica Opens ]]'' | ||
*''[[The Big Bang]]'' | *''[[The Big Bang]]'' | ||
*''[[The Impossible Astronaut]]'' | *''[[The Impossible Astronaut]]'' | ||
*''[[Day of the Moon]]'' | *''[[Day of the Moon]]'' | ||
*''[[The Time of Angels|The Time of Angels | *''[[The Time of Angels|The Time of Angels ]]'' | ||
*''[[Flesh and Stone]]'' | *''[[Flesh and Stone]]'' | ||
*''[[Silence in the Library]]'' | *''[[Silence in the Library]]'' | ||
*''[[Forest of the Dead]]'' | *''[[Forest of the Dead]]'' | ||
We know TPO happens before ToA (from her point of view) because River says as much. | We know TPO happens before ToA (from her point of view) because River says as much. | ||
As she doesn't know who Rory is in TPO we have to assume the TIA comes after that from her point of view as she clearly knows who he is (there would be no reason for her to pretend not to know him, its not like she hides her time-travling nature and fore-knowledge). | As she doesn't know who Rory is in TPO we have to assume the TIA comes after that from her point of view as she clearly knows who he is (there would be no reason for her to pretend not to know him, its not like she hides her time-travling nature and fore-knowledge). | ||
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The only other peice of evidence of where the timeline occured in reguards to ToA is the Vortex Manipilator. It's not hard evidence (it could be a different one) but its the only evidence we have. So until the better evidence is provided I think we will have to assume that TIA occures before ToA where she had returned to prision and presumably had her Vortex Manipulator confiscated. | The only other peice of evidence of where the timeline occured in reguards to ToA is the Vortex Manipilator. It's not hard evidence (it could be a different one) but its the only evidence we have. So until the better evidence is provided I think we will have to assume that TIA occures before ToA where she had returned to prision and presumably had her Vortex Manipulator confiscated. | ||
As for her being in prision in the 52ndC in TPO and the 51st in ToA (in her personal future but the actual past) there are two explanations | We know they meet in a general (but imperfect) reverse order because of the diaries. If there were major mix-ups in their timelines they would have to match up every single event in their diaries rather than just "have we dont this yet". So while we can generalise and use it as a trend, we cannot use it to make a specific order. | ||
As for her being in prision in the 52ndC in TPO and the 51st in ToA (in her personal future but the actual past) there are two explanations: | |||
1) She was recaptured in the 51stC and taken to back prision. As the Time Agency exists during this period it is possible the personal timelines (and time travel) are factored in when serving a sentence. I find it less likely that she would have turned herself in at a time before she was originally in prision (possibly even before she had commited the crime), although I guess it's possible. | |||
2) It was a mistake. When working out the dates for TPO someone involved in the episode read "51st Cenutry" from ToA and made up a date begining with "51??" (5145 as it turned out); which I think is an easy enough mistake/oversight to make. [[User:Looq|Looq]] 21:43, April 25, 2011 (UTC) | |||
