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: Gangers are supposed to be controlled by the originals - with the exception of what happened in TRF/TAP. So, the REAL Amy has been unconscious and controlling her clone this whole time, while being unaware of her true state. That's why the Ganger version kept seeing visions of the eye patch lady. -- [[User:MisterRandom2|MisterRandom2]] 19:58, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | : Gangers are supposed to be controlled by the originals - with the exception of what happened in TRF/TAP. So, the REAL Amy has been unconscious and controlling her clone this whole time, while being unaware of her true state. That's why the Ganger version kept seeing visions of the eye patch lady. -- [[User:MisterRandom2|MisterRandom2]] 19:58, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
: And there's also the fact that if the Ganger Amy was a real independently functioning clone, the Doctor wouldn't have just arbitrarily destroyed her. Not after all that business about how independent Gangers should be treated like humans. -- [[User:MisterRandom2|MisterRandom2]] 20:01, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | : And there's also the fact that if the Ganger Amy was a real independently functioning clone, the Doctor wouldn't have just arbitrarily destroyed her. Not after all that business about how independent Gangers should be treated like humans. -- [[User:MisterRandom2|MisterRandom2]] 20:01, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
: Plus when Ganger Amy is destroyed the real one wakes up, quite obviously surprised to find herself there. And why would the Doctor tell her they were coming to find her if she was an independent clone that would forget everything when destroyed? [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] 20:27, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | : Plus when Ganger Amy is destroyed the real one wakes up, quite obviously surprised to find herself there. And why would the Doctor tell her they were coming to find her if she was an independent clone that would forget everything when destroyed? [[User:TemporalSpleen|TemporalSpleen]] 20:27, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
: That's exactly it: plastic Amy is really just a physical extension of real Amy, which is why the real Amy wakes up when the plastic ganger is destroyed. (No idea why the TARDIS didn't fixate that one, though.) | |||
: I'm now trying to go back to [[The Impossible Astronaut]] to see what's going on, but even during their very first meeting with the president Amy is fake-pregnant, so she must have been plastic already at that point. [[User:Hack59|Hack59]] 21:36, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | |||
That makes sense, but it is still a different character, albeit very loosely.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:59, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | That makes sense, but it is still a different character, albeit very loosely.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:59, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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: And before anyone gets started with a "But we have a separate page for the Auton Rory!" argument - that's different because the real Rory was dead/erased from the time line and the Auton version really was a separate character. The Ganger Amy IS the real Amy - just not physically. She's an avatar of the real Amy - who his alive and has (presumably) been unconscious this whole time. -- [[User:MisterRandom2|MisterRandom2]] 20:13, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | : And before anyone gets started with a "But we have a separate page for the Auton Rory!" argument - that's different because the real Rory was dead/erased from the time line and the Auton version really was a separate character. The Ganger Amy IS the real Amy - just not physically. She's an avatar of the real Amy - who his alive and has (presumably) been unconscious this whole time. -- [[User:MisterRandom2|MisterRandom2]] 20:13, May 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
: Agreed, as Ganger Amy was not a sepperate soul. It was Amy's - I repeate, REAL Amy's - consiousness controlling an avatar, hence why she kept seeing Madame Kovarian - glimpses of where she really was. A body is not a character, the soul is the character. Ganger Amy was an avatar being controlled by Amy as she, in her original body, was asleep controlling the avatar. As soon as her avatar was destroyed, she woke up in her natural body. It's the same character in a different body. The argument is pointless, really - unless one believes a "character" is the body, not the soul. [[Special:Contributions/90.199.247.156|90.199.247.156]] 02:39, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | : Agreed, as Ganger Amy was not a sepperate soul. It was Amy's - I repeate, REAL Amy's - consiousness controlling an avatar, hence why she kept seeing Madame Kovarian - glimpses of where she really was. A body is not a character, the soul is the character. Ganger Amy was an avatar being controlled by Amy as she, in her original body, was asleep controlling the avatar. As soon as her avatar was destroyed, she woke up in her natural body. It's the same character in a different body. The argument is pointless, really - unless one believes a "character" is the body, not the soul. [[Special:Contributions/90.199.247.156|90.199.247.156]] 02:39, May 29, 2011 (UTC) | ||
