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Then there are a few pages that state season 6B as fact that need to be changed.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 00:52, October 13, 2010 (UTC) | Then there are a few pages that state season 6B as fact that need to be changed.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 00:52, October 13, 2010 (UTC) | ||
==Revived discussion== | |||
:::Um, I'm opposed to removing references to season 6B on story pages. Story pages are real world and therefore can use real world terms. After all, no one's saying we can't use "season 12" on a story page. The fact that the words "season 6b" don't appear in a narrative is irrelevant; the ''concept'' certainly is canonical. We have the whole run of TVC stories featuring Two on Earth, in ''definite'' exile from the Time Lords but not yet regenerated. We ''see'' the events immediately pre-''Spearhead'' when the second part of his sentence, regeneration, is finally meted out. Also, ''World Game'' does everything but mention the words "season 6B". It very neatly lays out all the precepts of Season 6b. The words "Season 6b" are just shorthand for, "the Second Doctor didn't regenerate after ''The War Games''. Instead, he was placed in the service of the CIA for a period of time where he had many additional adventure. Also, according to other sources, he may also have spent time exiled on Earth as the Second Doctor before his regeneration was imposed on him." Season 6b is as much fact as anything within a fictional universe. Since this wiki takes a broad view and includes stories from all media, 6b is not "just a theory". It used to be just a theory, back when all we had was the mystery of the obviously older Troughton in ''The Two Doctors'', and no one could easily find ''[[The Witch Hunters]]''. But it's pretty hard to think of 6B as mere theory now that we've had Terence Dicks himself setting a story in the gap, and the internet has made some long-forgotten comic strips available. | |||
I'm guessing that by this point, [[user:icecreamdif|icecreamdif]] probably already undid the Season 6b references around the joint, but we should really rule that the previous discussion was based on a flawed understanding of the base narrative. As he stated, he never read ''World Game'', which doesn't put him in a position to fairly judge the canonicity of season 6b. I think it's odd how [[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revanvolatrelundar]] tells him point blank that it's "not really a theory", but yet Icecreamdif just brushes ''World Game'' aside without investigating it at all. | |||
We really shouldn't need a forum thread to make it "legal" to use information from a published story, but since the previous consensus of the thread seems to have been that season 6b was theory more than narrative fact, we should make it absolutely clear that season 6b started as a [[Paul Cornell]] theory in ''[[The Discontinuity Guide]]'' — though it was, even at that time, narrative ''fact'' by the rules of this wiki, due to the TVC comics. It then became even more cemented in narrative by ''World Game''. | |||
Here's the real narrative lesson using all media: Both ''[[World Game]]'' and the run of TVC comics ending in ''[[The Witch Hunters]]'' unambiguously establish that the Second Doctor had many adventures after ''[[The War Games]]'', some in which he was exiled to Earth as the Second Doctor, and some in which he was working as an agent of the CIA. Collectively, these adventures come under the fan-created, but official-website-supported, name of "season 6b". | |||
I know that Wikipedia bangs on about it being a theory, but this is because their DW project takes the position that the spin-off media are of uncertain relevance to the TV series. If one adopts the view that the other media stories are of ''equal'' weight to TV stories, as we do at this wiki, then 6b is no longer a theory, but narrative fact. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}} <span style="{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}">'''12:27:32 Wed '''01 Jun 2011 </span> | |||
