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* From what we've seen in the EDAs and the New Series then it looks like when Gallifrey's destroyed, it's destroyed ''wherever'' you are in time. When it exists then it's contactable in Bernice's time and when it doesn't exist then it isn't. | * From what we've seen in the EDAs and the New Series then it looks like when Gallifrey's destroyed, it's destroyed ''wherever'' you are in time. When it exists then it's contactable in Bernice's time and when it doesn't exist then it isn't. | ||
* The Doctor should definately visit Gallifrey 'in sync'. Its timeline is meant to be the '''absolute''' - you can travel backwards and forwards in the timeline of the wider universe, but you're supposed to observe linearity within Gallifrey's timeline ([[Lungbarrow]],[[The Book of the War]], stuff like that). That hasn't stopped the Doctor from breaking the rule scads of times though - The First popping back to the Old Time ([[Lungbarrow]]), the Fifth popping back to the Morbius Crisis ([[Warmonger]]), the Sixth popping forward to the Etra Prime Incident ([[The | * The Doctor should definately visit Gallifrey 'in sync'. Its timeline is meant to be the '''absolute''' - you can travel backwards and forwards in the timeline of the wider universe, but you're supposed to observe linearity within Gallifrey's timeline ([[Lungbarrow]],[[The Book of the War]], stuff like that). That hasn't stopped the Doctor from breaking the rule scads of times though - The First popping back to the Old Time ([[Lungbarrow]]), the Fifth popping back to the Morbius Crisis ([[Warmonger]]), the Sixth popping forward to the Etra Prime Incident ([[The Apocalypse Element]]) and the Eighth's many interactions with the War-Era. It's a law, but it's a breakable one. As you say, it's just a work around to explain what's what's happening in [[The Eight Doctors]], but it seems the best way to make sense of Flavia being President in that book and Romana having the gig in all the other EDAs. The only other work-around I can think of is for Flavia to have resumed her post at some time during the 20-year gap, but I'm not sure how well that fits. | ||
* I'm reluctant to reposition anything in alternate universes, bottle universes, matrices, or cloneworlds if we can possibly avoid it, since that inevitably means playing favourites. Reconciling the ''stylistic''s of Gallifrey shouldn't worry us too much either if we can get the narrative stuff to fit - how you percive the place depends on who's looking, as the Sontarans explain in ''The Invasion of Time''. Even putting that aside, someone landing in New York and then in the Sudan might well conclude that they couldn't be the same planet. --[[User:Richard Jones|Richard Jones]] 14:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | * I'm reluctant to reposition anything in alternate universes, bottle universes, matrices, or cloneworlds if we can possibly avoid it, since that inevitably means playing favourites. Reconciling the ''stylistic''s of Gallifrey shouldn't worry us too much either if we can get the narrative stuff to fit - how you percive the place depends on who's looking, as the Sontarans explain in ''The Invasion of Time''. Even putting that aside, someone landing in New York and then in the Sudan might well conclude that they couldn't be the same planet. --[[User:Richard Jones|Richard Jones]] 14:52, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | ||
::Alrighty, you make good arguments for all points. Conflicting is a better word. | |||
::I'm going to have to go back and re-listen to the Extinction Event, but could Brax be referring to [[Dellah]]? I'm sure at some point he calls it his home (albeit adoptive), which would make more sense within the Benny universe. | |||
::Though I do agree, bottle universes are not the wider answer, I'd like everything to be a part of the one universe. (But I do occasionally have trouble wrapping my head around the fact that the Time Lords went into the bottle universe to escape 'one of the wars be it the Gods from Dellah, the War in Heaven or something else' then they came back out of the bottle...from the planet formerly known as Earth and went back to their original planet...) (all from [[BNA]]: ''[[Dead Romance]]'') | |||
::Wasn't Flavia found drunk in charge of the Sash or Rod of Rassilon? Not the sort of person you'd give a job back to. | |||
::We'll need to touch on clone worlds eventually with the [[Nine Gallifreys]] and the aformentioned bottleverse and Earth-bottleuniverse / new Time Lord planet. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 17:01, 1 December 2007 (UTC) | |||
