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:::The Jack in this episode has knowledge of how the [[Brainspawn]] parasite is used in an alternate timeline (one where the US loses WW2) and ''happens'' to have a small bottle of liquid that will dissolve the contents of the large box with the parasite... This suggests to me that he had specific knowledge of this event, and was possibly sent here (in time) to fix it - was there a time when he was time-hopping to fix [[Trickster's Brigade]] plots? If he wasn't time-hopping, why did he wait so long to visit [[Angelo Colasanto]] again (a year later). | :::The Jack in this episode has knowledge of how the [[Brainspawn]] parasite is used in an alternate timeline (one where the US loses WW2) and ''happens'' to have a small bottle of liquid that will dissolve the contents of the large box with the parasite... This suggests to me that he had specific knowledge of this event, and was possibly sent here (in time) to fix it - was there a time when he was time-hopping to fix [[Trickster's Brigade]] plots? If he wasn't time-hopping, why did he wait so long to visit [[Angelo Colasanto]] again (a year later). | ||
::::Angelo was in prison in the interim, which is the most obvious explanation for why Jack didn't visit him before that. As referenced above, we can't say with certainty when this happened in Jack's timeline. It is also possible of course that Jack really was indeed time-hopping, and there was much more than a year (in Jack's timeline) between the first meeting with Angelo, and when Angelo gets out of prison. Since it's during the post-prison scenes that Jack mentions being a fixed point in time, it's hypothetically possible that "Utopia" actually occurred somewhere between when he left Angelo and when he came back. However, that's just one of the several possibilities, and doesn't fully explain the 'mystery' of the WWII coat. | ::::Angelo was in prison in the interim, which is the most obvious explanation for why Jack didn't visit him before that. As referenced above, we can't say with certainty when this happened in Jack's timeline. It is also possible of course that Jack really was indeed time-hopping, and there was much more than a year (in Jack's timeline) between the first meeting with Angelo, and when Angelo gets out of prison. Since it's during the post-prison scenes that Jack mentions being a fixed point in time, it's hypothetically possible that "Utopia" actually occurred somewhere between when he left Angelo and when he came back. However, that's just one of the several possibilities, and doesn't fully explain the 'mystery' of the WWII coat. | ||
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:::::That's a good point, as is the one you were responding to. (It's also possible that Jack immediately hopped a year into the future, so it was only a few minutes for him…) | |||
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:::::Anyway, I think [[Talk:Jack_Harkness#1927_Flashbacks_in_.22Immortal_Sins.22.3F|Talk:Jack_Harkness]] lists all of the possibilities (except for the "one part of timeline before Angelo went to prison, a later part afterward) and all of the serious problems with each one, and anything anyone has to add should probably go there rather than here, so it can be used to improve the article. | |||
*Jack says that he hasn't been to a confession in 700 years. Jack wasn't nearly that old until he was buried. | *Jack says that he hasn't been to a confession in 700 years. Jack wasn't nearly that old until he was buried. | ||
