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[[River Song]] is in need of expansion, and it is hard to do this when the article is already quite long. The article is becoming messy, and it just looks unnatractive. All three incanations of Melody Pond should have their own articles on the wiki, as well as a 'home page', if you will, for a brief overview of the entire character's history. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 09:08, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | [[River Song]] is in need of expansion, and it is hard to do this when the article is already quite long. The article is becoming messy, and it just looks unnatractive. All three incanations of Melody Pond should have their own articles on the wiki, as well as a 'home page', if you will, for a brief overview of the entire character's history. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 09:08, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
::However it is ''not'' an average article. Whilst for the Doctor and Master it is acceptable to split them, since each incarnation had many adventures, and those articles are, in themselves, rather long, and to have them on one article would make it enormous. With River, however, with the information we have on her, her article is only as long as the Doctor's complete summarised page. | ::However it is ''not'' an average article. Whilst for the Doctor and Master it is acceptable to split them, since each incarnation had many adventures, and those articles are, in themselves, rather long, and to have them on one article would make it enormous. With River, however, with the information we have on her, her article is only as long as the Doctor's complete summarised page. | ||
::Yes, each incarnation has enough information to be it's own article, but if we did have them as separate articles, then there would be problems with this, largely the naming. You want a home page for Melody, which I'd presume you would want to name Melody Pond. So what about each incarnation? Do we name them Melody Pond (Spacesuit/Little Girl), Melody Pond (Mels) and Melody Pond (River Song)? Because she's generally known as River Song, so surely the character should be known as that? Otherwise Amy Pond should be Amelia Pond. And adding in the brackets to disambiguate the names is much more messy than the River Song page looks. | ::Yes, each incarnation has enough information to be it's own article, but if we did have them as separate articles, then there would be problems with this, largely the naming. You want a home page for Melody, which I'd presume you would want to name Melody Pond. So what about each incarnation? Do we name them Melody Pond (Spacesuit/Little Girl), Melody Pond (Mels) and Melody Pond (River Song)? Because she's generally known as River Song, so surely the character should be known as that? Otherwise Amy Pond should be Amelia Pond. And adding in the brackets to disambiguate the names is much more messy than the River Song page looks. | ||
::And with your suggestion of an article for each incarnation plus a home page, what would be ''on'' the home page? Because really the only incarnation that would actually be summarised is the River Song incarnation. Because the other two incarnations aren't so long that they would require summarising. | ::And with your suggestion of an article for each incarnation plus a home page, what would be ''on'' the home page? Because really the only incarnation that would actually be summarised is the River Song incarnation. Because the other two incarnations aren't so long that they would require summarising. | ||
::It's much simpler to have them on the one page. The only reason we would split them is if the first two incarnations were much longer than they are now, and that happening is very doubtful. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 12:07, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ::It's much simpler to have them on the one page. The only reason we would split them is if the first two incarnations were much longer than they are now, and that happening is very doubtful. --[[User:The Thirteenth Doctor|The Thirteenth Doctor]] 12:07, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:::Yes, I can understand the naming to be an issue, especially with River/Melody, seeing as she is primarily known as River Song. But I think the method we had used in the last few days worked quite well, with the articles being named Melody Pond (Little Girl), Melody Pond (Mels) and Melody Pond (River Song). I actually also agree that Amy Pond should be named Amelia Pond, as it's her actual name, Amy is just something she shortened it to to spite the Doctor and how he thought it to be "like out of a fairy tale". Just like Jackie Tyler should be Jacqueline Tyler. | |||
:::I also see your interpretation of the "home page's" summaries consisting of River's adventures only, however this is not neccesarily true. Although, yes, River has had more adventures with the Doctor than her previous incarnation (and it will most definitely remain that way), her adventures could be summarized into about three to four paragraphs, with her previous incarnations' sections having about two paragraphs each. And the 'home page' serves the same purpose as [[The Doctor]] article does, it's a summary of the Doctor's life, with links to more indepth descriptions of his history and various personalities. | |||
:::And as an address to your third and final paragraph, about the expansion of the previous two incarnations, that isn't too unlikely, as I had expanded [[Melody Pond (Mels)]] when it was an article, and it was of a very good sizable length, and it wasn't just me repeating myself, it was an in-depth look at Mels' life. And as another point, I know it isn't exactly reliable, and it's a bit spoilery, nor is it a point to change anyone's opinion, but it has been ''confirmed'' that Mels is to appear in "The Wedding of River Song", and so I'm sure we will learn more information there. | |||
:::I'm still very adament about this, as you can probably tell, and I truely believe that this action should be revoked. {{User:Rassilon of Old/Sig}} 12:34, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | |||
