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:You didn't answer me. ''As far as we know'', River was in the suit. That is what the episodes have shown, and that is what we need to display until we have further information. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:35, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | :You didn't answer me. ''As far as we know'', River was in the suit. That is what the episodes have shown, and that is what we need to display until we have further information. --[[User:Bold Clone|<span style="color:darkblue">'''Bold'''</span>]] [[User Talk:Bold Clone|<span style="color:gold">'''Clone'''</span>]] 23:35, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
:What exactly was wrong with the comprimise solution that others had put up? - It made clear that we haven't seen under the visor yet, so we can't be sure; and it even noted that the data download said River did it - putting "someone" whilst noting that data seems by far the most sensible soution, especially when we have a main writer that likes to play around with our expectations [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 23:46, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | :What exactly was wrong with the comprimise solution that others had put up? - It made clear that we haven't seen under the visor yet, so we can't be sure; and it even noted that the data download said River did it - putting "someone" whilst noting that data seems by far the most sensible soution, especially when we have a main writer that likes to play around with our expectations [[User:Baziel|Baziel]] 23:46, September 1, 2011 (UTC) | ||
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:Looks reasonable to me, Baziel. Now, pardon me please, while I try to answer Bold Clone. | |||
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:As far as we can tell, I was in the suit. We have no direct evidence that any one individual was in the suit and an implication that'' no one'' was in the suit. | |||
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:1: In "Day of the Moon" the Doctor asks if the suit could move by itself. No answer. | |||
:2: Extraneous issues abound. Why was a Silence present? | |||
:3: No one but the Doctor had any chance to see a face in the suit. | |||
:4: River has never said she killed the Doctor at Lake Silencio. | |||
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:It's easy enough to build up scenarios in which River did not kill the Doctor at Lake Silencio, ranging from taking the blame for some one else to a conspiracy with the Doctor to cover his tracks while we goes after the Silence. After all, why bother to send someone else when he's dead, even if he's playing poker with you at the moment. | |||
:You may argue that these are all speculations, and you would be right. However, as someone who has read hundreds, if not thousands of murder mysteries, the technique of writing them is to make sure that some one else looks guilty. Usually they wind up dead by chapter 4. River certainly qualifies for that. She died, what, three years ago? | |||
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:Building a scenario in which River did not kill the Doctor at Lake Silencio is speculative. However, saying that she absolutely, positively did is also speculative. Sorry.[[User:Boblipton|Boblipton]] 23:51, September 1, 2011 (UTC) |
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