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I agree the Black Guardian story arc wasn't '''bad '''but I don't think it was anywhere near as good as it could and should have been. At that time, of course, the show could get away with all kinds of things because the main audience reaction was "At least we don't have to put up with Adric any more!" (In those days, I was watching the show on a communal TV set in the local Students' Union and, when Adric got blown up, the entire -- fairly large -- audience '''cheered'''.) --[[Special:Contributions/89.242.67.85|89.242.67.85]] 20:28, September 7, 2011 (UTC) | I agree the Black Guardian story arc wasn't '''bad '''but I don't think it was anywhere near as good as it could and should have been. At that time, of course, the show could get away with all kinds of things because the main audience reaction was "At least we don't have to put up with Adric any more!" (In those days, I was watching the show on a communal TV set in the local Students' Union and, when Adric got blown up, the entire -- fairly large -- audience '''cheered'''.) --[[Special:Contributions/89.242.67.85|89.242.67.85]] 20:28, September 7, 2011 (UTC) | ||
I have no idea what Moffat has in store for this story line, but if it continues like this, I won't be watching Dr. Who again until someone else is in charge. | I have no idea what Moffat has in store for this story line, but if it continues like this, I won't be watching Dr. Who again until someone else is in charge. The Doctor is sleeping with his friends' daughter (Woody Allen look out) and Rory and Amy are now banished to earth like good little minions to go about their lives without having at least gotten in one on air puch to the Doctor to go get their baby before she turns into Mels./ River. I love River Song as a character, and I liked Amy and Rory having a child. Even if it had a time head. But wibbly wobbly timey wimey won't cut through the BS of this story line. This season turned Amy into a weakling (she had problems giving CPR to a man who waited 2000 years for her!) and made Rory so ineffective as a father. A buch of mad adventures with the Doctor (seriously, does Moffat think parents of a kidnapped child would give a damn about anything besides getting her back BEFORE she gets brainwashed?) and then he drops them off to live out the rest of their days wondering what happened to their baby. I wonder, will the Doctor go and get River's body from the Library so they at least know how she died? No, probably not. Amy was a good vessel for a new pseudo timelord and Rory was tolerated as a nice pet. And now its really quite alright with Amy and Rory that they grew up with their daughter? I'm with Amy on this one, "Timelord's just a name, it doesn't mean he knows anything." and unless Moffat has something really brillant up his sleve, I call this a clasic example of ruining a really good story line for your own ego's sake. | ||
The Mels story line was way too rushed, but the idea of Amy and Rory growing up with their daughter wasn't bad. First of all, the Doctor isn't sleeping with their daughter at least not yet). Second of all, Amy and Rory have travelled with the Doctor long enough to realize how at least some of the laws of time work. They know that their daughter grows up to be Mels who grows up to be River, so they know that theirs not anything they can do about it.And, why would the Doctor go to the library to bring them River's body? What's he going to do, say "Remember that little girl you gave birth to less than a year ago? Well, she dies to save my lif. Here's her body." Amy and Rory don't really need to know how she dies, because thy are stiill going to meet versions of her that haven't died yet. I think that it was actually a good plot point that the Doctor brought Amy and Rory back to Earth. Look how his recent companions have all left him. Rose got trapped in a parallel universe, Jack died, Martha spent a year living in a post-apocoyptic version of Earth, Donna had her memory erased. It all ties back to the speech that the Doctor gave to Amy to make her lose her faith in him. He really should have just left htem back in Leadworth after the wedding, and now he's finally doing the responsible thing and sending them back home.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 20:26, September 18, 2011 (UTC) | The Mels story line was way too rushed, but the idea of Amy and Rory growing up with their daughter wasn't bad. First of all, the Doctor isn't sleeping with their daughter at least not yet). Second of all, Amy and Rory have travelled with the Doctor long enough to realize how at least some of the laws of time work. They know that their daughter grows up to be Mels who grows up to be River, so they know that theirs not anything they can do about it.And, why would the Doctor go to the library to bring them River's body? What's he going to do, say "Remember that little girl you gave birth to less than a year ago? Well, she dies to save my lif. Here's her body." Amy and Rory don't really need to know how she dies, because thy are stiill going to meet versions of her that haven't died yet. I think that it was actually a good plot point that the Doctor brought Amy and Rory back to Earth. Look how his recent companions have all left him. Rose got trapped in a parallel universe, Jack died, Martha spent a year living in a post-apocoyptic version of Earth, Donna had her memory erased. It all ties back to the speech that the Doctor gave to Amy to make her lose her faith in him. He really should have just left htem back in Leadworth after the wedding, and now he's finally doing the responsible thing and sending them back home.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 20:26, September 18, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Incidentally, the Doctor giving Amy and Rory a house to live in was a bit of a first wasnt it (or was it their house from the winnig lottery ticket, and the Doctor just gave them the car ) ? I can't remember the Doctor being so generous with any of this other companions. I mean when Tegan left, she wasn't even dropped off in the right city IIRC. The only other similar thing I can think of is the Doctor leaving K-9 with Sarah Jane, though I don't recall if that was at the time she left or some time later. [[Special:Contributions/177.17.56.70|177.17.56.70]] 21:12, September 18, 2011 (UTC) | |||
