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<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">You're also right that the 1tth Doctor's manipulation of Amy in ''The God Complex'' is both much less cruel and much more subtle than the 7th Doctor's manipulation of Ace in ''The Curse of Fenric'', and that's a very good point. If you think about it, it's a much more effective way to do things. But the 11th Doctor seems to understand humans so much worse than the 7th Doctor, or really than any of his incarnations, so how did he figure that out? Maybe this is just instinctive for him? Maybe the alien-weirdo thing is just an act? Or maybe he's more like the stereotypical psychiatrist character, understanding human behavior from the outside but not from the inside? --[[Special:Contributions/12.249.226.210|12.249.226.210]] 19:31, September 20, 2011 (UTC)</p>
<p style="margin-left: 40px; ">You're also right that the 1tth Doctor's manipulation of Amy in ''The God Complex'' is both much less cruel and much more subtle than the 7th Doctor's manipulation of Ace in ''The Curse of Fenric'', and that's a very good point. If you think about it, it's a much more effective way to do things. But the 11th Doctor seems to understand humans so much worse than the 7th Doctor, or really than any of his incarnations, so how did he figure that out? Maybe this is just instinctive for him? Maybe the alien-weirdo thing is just an act? Or maybe he's more like the stereotypical psychiatrist character, understanding human behavior from the outside but not from the inside? --[[Special:Contributions/12.249.226.210|12.249.226.210]] 19:31, September 20, 2011 (UTC)</p>
I just rewatched the relevant scenes, and I disagree with your interpretaiton the Doctor would have now ay to know the tsunami was coming. He was too busy looking aAmy's pregnancy scan at the time, and since when does he pay attention to thing s like spacial anomalies. Yes, the Doctor told them he was taking them back to Earth in a very awkward way, but this Doctor says just about everything in a bizzare way/ He knew how they would react, but he planned to just say " too bad, you're going back to Earth for fish and chips" and they would reluctantly go back to Earth knowing that the Doctor was doing something important and assuming that he would explain later. His standing there with his mouth open was a reaction to Amy saying that she would personally like to be a part of whatever the Doctor was up to. He didn't know how to respond since the whole thing was about Amy, Amy obviously ouldn't really personally be a part of it since she wasn't there, and he waas still deciding how to say no to her. The Doctor certainly had no way of knowing that the gangers were going to become independant, so there was really no wreason to bring Amy there. He didn't plan to be cloned because he didn't realize the flesh was intelligent until he scanned it and it scanned him back. Amy didn't become important to what was happening until the Doctors decided to swap their shoes, so there is no real reason for the Doctor to pretend to refuse to take yand Rory with himi but then to take them with him anyway.
I didn't quite finish my thought earlier regarding the Seventh Doctor's change. My main point is that the Eleventh Doctor is also comedic one much of the time, who has also been compared to the Second Doctor on occasion. Maybe he's going through a similar change.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] 20:01, September 20, 2011 (UTC)
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