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::ANNual '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 15:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC) | ::ANNual '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 15:54, 7 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::Oh....I think we need to work on that. As you say it doesn't just apply to annuals. DWASY (Doctor Who Annual, Storybook, Yearly) perhaps? I'd like to have the DW on there as I think there's a Torchwood Annual lurking around somewhere and possibly in the future there may be a SJA (or is there and I've missed it?) anyways we should future proof so we don't have to go through the mind numbing process of changing 3 letters on 50+ pages (which I've begun for TDA/NDA to NSA). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC) | :::Oh....I think we need to work on that. As you say it doesn't just apply to annuals. DWASY (Doctor Who Annual, Storybook, Yearly) perhaps? I'd like to have the DW on there as I think there's a Torchwood Annual lurking around somewhere and possibly in the future there may be a SJA (or is there and I've missed it?) anyways we should future proof so we don't have to go through the mind numbing process of changing 3 letters on 50+ pages (which I've begun for TDA/NDA to NSA). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:11, 7 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::::Well, I'm not wedded to the acronym ANN absolutely. However, if you look at the [[DWAN]] page, it's clear that it's meant to be used for stuff that's not just DW. It specifically lists Dalek Annuals and K-9 Annuals. So either "DW" really shouldn't be in the prefix, or we're going to have to come up with unique prefixes for every type of annual. I'm not hugely thrilled at the prospect of ANN, but it is possible to write the language of the page so that it's clear it stands for any sort of "annual publication". That way, you sort of avoid the distinction between year books, story books and annuals buy saying, "Anything that's published once a year is covered by this prefix". Indeed, if you look at the main page ([[Doctor Who | ::::Well, I'm not wedded to the acronym ANN absolutely. However, if you look at the [[DWAN]] page, it's clear that it's meant to be used for stuff that's not just DW. It specifically lists Dalek Annuals and K-9 Annuals. So either "DW" really shouldn't be in the prefix, or we're going to have to come up with unique prefixes for every type of annual. I'm not hugely thrilled at the prospect of ANN, but it is possible to write the language of the page so that it's clear it stands for any sort of "annual publication". That way, you sort of avoid the distinction between year books, story books and annuals buy saying, "Anything that's published once a year is covered by this prefix". Indeed, if you look at the main page ([[Doctor Who annual]]), that's the approach the authors have taken. That said, it sounds like you're saying you disagree with the current wording at [[DWAN]]. Are you saying you '''don't''' want it to include spinoff annuals, and that you therefore want to create unique prefixes for each strain of annual publication? '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]''' [[User talk:CzechOut|☎]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 16:32, 7 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
:::::No. Probably not, now that I've thought about it. I just don't really like ANN as a prefix as it's a contraction rather than an acronym. How about [[AYS]] (Annuals, Yearlies Storybooks)? I know I'm obsessing over a very minor thing, but practically all the other prefixes are acronyms and it's nice to have a continuous logic running through. We can have it counting for all the spinoffs and everything, there aren't ''that'' many publication it makes sense to group them all together, for now. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | :::::No. Probably not, now that I've thought about it. I just don't really like ANN as a prefix as it's a contraction rather than an acronym. How about [[AYS]] (Annuals, Yearlies Storybooks)? I know I'm obsessing over a very minor thing, but practically all the other prefixes are acronyms and it's nice to have a continuous logic running through. We can have it counting for all the spinoffs and everything, there aren't ''that'' many publication it makes sense to group them all together, for now. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 16:01, 8 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
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:::::Just let me know when this goes into effect and I'll get started on the corrections. --[[User:Raukodraug|Raukodraug]] 16:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC) | :::::Just let me know when this goes into effect and I'll get started on the corrections. --[[User:Raukodraug|Raukodraug]] 16:26, 9 May 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Okay, AYS it is then. | ::Okay, AYS it is then. | ||
::Now here's another point. The [[list of prefixes]] page, but not the [[TVC]] page, asserted until ten minutes ago that [[TVC]] meant comic '''or prose''' stories printed in TVC. Well, this reference to prose stories can't mean individual issues of TVC. There's no prose at all in TVC "proper". So it seems to imply the TVC Annuals. Personally, I'm dubious of the existence of them even in these books, Still, the implication was that [[TVC]] should be used for stories printed in either the issues or the annuals. But the current text at [[DWA|the annual prefix page]] and the [[Doctor Who | ::Now here's another point. The [[list of prefixes]] page, but not the [[TVC]] page, asserted until ten minutes ago that [[TVC]] meant comic '''or prose''' stories printed in TVC. Well, this reference to prose stories can't mean individual issues of TVC. There's no prose at all in TVC "proper". So it seems to imply the TVC Annuals. Personally, I'm dubious of the existence of them even in these books, Still, the implication was that [[TVC]] should be used for stories printed in either the issues or the annuals. But the current text at [[DWA|the annual prefix page]] and the [[Doctor Who annual]] page itself lumps in TVC Annuals. This would seem to imply that you have a choice of abbreviations for material in TVC comic annuals; either you can use TVC or AYS. I can't imagine we want that kind of ambiguity. | ||
::At the moment it's totally an academic question, because no individual TVC Annual has a page yet. But as we build for the future, we need to make up our minds which way to go. Personally, I think the fact that DW material is so scant in the totality of TVC output, that we wouldn't want to use AYS for comic stories in TVC annuals. I'd think we'd move [[Doctor Who Annual#TV Comic Annuals]] to TV Comic Annuals, and then site the stories therein with [[TVC]] or maybe start the wholly new acronym, TVCA? Then, on the AYS page, just to make things extra clear, we'd say that AYS stands for an annual publication wherein the majority of the material focuses on a [[Whoniverse]] topic, and then give a disambig line to [[TVC|TVC/TVCA]] and [[TVA|TVA/TVAA]] for information about their annuals. | ::At the moment it's totally an academic question, because no individual TVC Annual has a page yet. But as we build for the future, we need to make up our minds which way to go. Personally, I think the fact that DW material is so scant in the totality of TVC output, that we wouldn't want to use AYS for comic stories in TVC annuals. I'd think we'd move [[Doctor Who Annual#TV Comic Annuals]] to TV Comic Annuals, and then site the stories therein with [[TVC]] or maybe start the wholly new acronym, TVCA? Then, on the AYS page, just to make things extra clear, we'd say that AYS stands for an annual publication wherein the majority of the material focuses on a [[Whoniverse]] topic, and then give a disambig line to [[TVC|TVC/TVCA]] and [[TVA|TVA/TVAA]] for information about their annuals. | ||
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:I'm going to have to say I disagree with the ANN prefix, going with acronyms still makes more sense within out prefix structure than ANN, Annual, Yearly, Storybook makes more logical sense than ANNual (especially as it's also carrying storybooks and Yearlies). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | :I'm going to have to say I disagree with the ANN prefix, going with acronyms still makes more sense within out prefix structure than ANN, Annual, Yearly, Storybook makes more logical sense than ANNual (especially as it's also carrying storybooks and Yearlies). --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:16, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
::Sorry, nothing's been said or done since mid-May by you or Czech in regards to this prefix so I did overlook that you two ultimately agreed to AYS. If you would move the prefix, neither I nor Raukodraug (probably) will have any problem with moving the current DWAs and few ANNs there. DWA has been a terrible category. The [[Doctor Who | ::Sorry, nothing's been said or done since mid-May by you or Czech in regards to this prefix so I did overlook that you two ultimately agreed to AYS. If you would move the prefix, neither I nor Raukodraug (probably) will have any problem with moving the current DWAs and few ANNs there. DWA has been a terrible category. The [[Doctor Who annual]] page includes TVC Annual material (which you can find linked to from the TV Comic page), books about the true history of the Daleks as revealed to Terry Nation in microscopic Dalek tapes, an unclassifiable First Doctor novel, and a few random specials. --[[User:Nyktimos|Nyktimos]] 22:21, 2 August 2009 (UTC) | ||
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