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You can ignore Icecreamdif's comment, it contradicts with what's shown in ''the End of Time''. The point was raised in an old thread and a possibility was raised that the Doctor cannot travel to any time that would open up a probability of interfereing the timelock. And even if this is true, because the beginning and end of time is so huge that the chance of encountering a time he can't travel to would be slim. Moreover, you can pretty much assume that if a race is time aware, then they would be pretty darn careful about what they say unless they are pretty sure of it. We know that Daleks wouldn't dare to mess with fixed points, and we know that both Cybus Cybermen and Daleks have collected extensive information concerning the Doctor including his different incarnations, so if Cybus Cybermen can do it, then you can assume pretty much everyone can do it. The name Rassilon Era is probably a good indication of Timelord's era of major influence, thus it's quite unreasonable to assume that the Timelord has a clear sphere of influence that extends to sometime in the Humanian Era. --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.32|222.166.181.32]] 23:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC) | You can ignore Icecreamdif's comment, it contradicts with what's shown in ''the End of Time''. The point was raised in an old thread and a possibility was raised that the Doctor cannot travel to any time that would open up a probability of interfereing the timelock. And even if this is true, because the beginning and end of time is so huge that the chance of encountering a time he can't travel to would be slim. Moreover, you can pretty much assume that if a race is time aware, then they would be pretty darn careful about what they say unless they are pretty sure of it. We know that Daleks wouldn't dare to mess with fixed points, and we know that both Cybus Cybermen and Daleks have collected extensive information concerning the Doctor including his different incarnations, so if Cybus Cybermen can do it, then you can assume pretty much everyone can do it. The name Rassilon Era is probably a good indication of Timelord's era of major influence, thus it's quite unreasonable to assume that the Timelord has a clear sphere of influence that extends to sometime in the Humanian Era. --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.32|222.166.181.32]] 23:14, November 10, 2011 (UTC) | ||
No. The Gallifrey scenes in ''End of Time'' were quite clearly stated to take place the day before the Doctor destroyed Gallifrey. It's how time travel works. Without the time lock, it's just like Earth. The Doctor and Rose saw it blow up in ''The End of the World'', but they still go there all the time, due to time travel. If you want to look at it from a linear point of view from the Time Lord's perspective, here's what happened. First, Rassilon and Omega invented time travel, and the Time Lords were around for billions of years. Then the events of the classic series and the TV movie occured. Then, some time after the movie, the Time War began, and was put into a time lock at some point. During the time locked war, the Time Lords somehow created or found a crazy oracle, who eventually predicted that the war would end when the Eigth (or maybe Ninth) Doctor destroyed Gallifrey and the Daleks. Rassilon didn't want to die, because he's a hypocrite, so he decided to use the Master to break out of the time lock. Unfortuanetly for him, the Tenth Doctor and the Master stopped him, and Gallifrey was returned to the time war within the time lock. The next day, the Eigth (or Ninth) Doctor ended the war by destroying Gallifrey, which led into the new series. The question of non-Daleks and Time Lords time travellers not knowing about the Time War in the classic series was discussed to death a few months ago, and I don't think that anyone agreed on anything. Anyway, there were definetly other classic episodes that took place in the future that mentioned Time Lord involvement (''The Curse of Peladon'' for example), and we don't even know when the Gallifrey episodes were supposed to take place.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 00:21, November 11, 2011 (UTC) | |||
