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::::::What is your point? One developed in an alternate Earth from a parallel dimension for survival and another developed in a twin planet of earth for survival? While I agree they are not the same specie, and Cybermen are just a pseudo-specie, what you said was not showing the differences but the similarities. Even the Mondasian Cybermen are not a proper specie, Not all Mondasian Cybermen are necessarily Mondasians. What makes Cybermen Cybermen are really just the similar cybernetic enhancements as medical aids, and the Doctor only referred to them as Cybermen. You have multiple origins, yes, but there are multiple human/near-human origins. Before you comment again, could you please just look through the earlier posts? It is all but impossible to follow your logic, because you are completely inconsistent with everything you say, one post you said the Cybus Cybermen are allergic to gold and the next post you said they are not, and this happens to pretty much everything you say. I fail to see any coherent point that you're trying to make. There's no discussion if you don't know what you're saying. --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.90|222.166.181.90]]<sup>[[User talk:222.166.181.90#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:05, December 28, 2011 (UTC) | ::::::What is your point? One developed in an alternate Earth from a parallel dimension for survival and another developed in a twin planet of earth for survival? While I agree they are not the same specie, and Cybermen are just a pseudo-specie, what you said was not showing the differences but the similarities. Even the Mondasian Cybermen are not a proper specie, Not all Mondasian Cybermen are necessarily Mondasians. What makes Cybermen Cybermen are really just the similar cybernetic enhancements as medical aids, and the Doctor only referred to them as Cybermen. You have multiple origins, yes, but there are multiple human/near-human origins. Before you comment again, could you please just look through the earlier posts? It is all but impossible to follow your logic, because you are completely inconsistent with everything you say, one post you said the Cybus Cybermen are allergic to gold and the next post you said they are not, and this happens to pretty much everything you say. I fail to see any coherent point that you're trying to make. There's no discussion if you don't know what you're saying. --[[Special:Contributions/222.166.181.90|222.166.181.90]]<sup>[[User talk:222.166.181.90#top|talk to me]]</sup> 07:05, December 28, 2011 (UTC) | ||
Okay, I think you're right that there was no reference to the Cybermen coming through the crack. In terms of how many pages we have, that doesn't really matter though. I think my mind was still on whether the season 6 Cybermen were Cybus or Mondasian when I brought that up. I also never said that Cybus-men were allergic to gold. I said that all Cybermen in the Doctor's universe had the allergy, in response to the suggestion that there may be non-Mondasian Cybermen in the Doctor's universe. Anyway, in regards to how many articles we have, I used the individual examples, because they are the closest analogy that exists. Since we don't have another race of Cyborg species that exist in multiple universes, the only analogies that were available were individuals and species. Although they are not individuals, I am suggesting that we treat them more like individuals than like a species. Mainly, because, as I said, the Humans are more or less the same in both universes. Both Cybermen do have a few similarities. As you say, they are both pseudospecies, both look similar, and both are called Cybermen. However, the fact remains that they are not the same thing. They have different origins, different goals, different strengths/weaknesses. Cybusmen and Mondasian Cybermen are simply not the same thing, and thus shouldn't share an article. I'm sorry if some of my posts have been a bit confusing, and I will try to be more clear in the future.[[User:Icecreamdif|Icecreamdif]] <sup>[[User talk:Icecreamdif|talk to me]]</sup> 07:36, December 28, 2011 (UTC) | |||
