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Probably not. At least not in the same way. The "reality bomb" would have "unglued" all matter -- and presumably antimatter, too -- but there would still have been a universe, with time, space and (because they'd been protected from the "reality bomb") Daleks. The Time Lords intended to bring the universe, including time, to a complete end. They never explained how they expected/intended to "ascend" to become "beings of consciousness alone" but they would have been freed from "cause and effect", as Rassilon said. After the "reality bomb", there would still have been the possibility that matter etc. could have re-formed (if the "reality bomb" emission had been switched off). Because time was still running, change was still possible. Eventually, the Daleks could have had something worth ruling. Admittedly, "eventually" would probably mean a very, very, very long time. After the Time Lords' "Ultimate Sanction", no change would have been possible because there would have been no time in which change could occur. The difference would be rather academic from our (human) point of view -- either way, we'd cease to exist -- but the Time Lords' plans were much more drastic than those of the Daleks. Davros was exaggerating that "reality itself" would have been destroyed by his bomb, but it '''would '''have been by the "Ultimate Sanction". --[[Special:Contributions/78.146.183.1|78.146.183.1]]<sup>[[User talk:78.146.183.1#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:03, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
Probably not. At least not in the same way. The "reality bomb" would have "unglued" all matter -- and presumably antimatter, too -- but there would still have been a universe, with time, space and (because they'd been protected from the "reality bomb") Daleks. The Time Lords intended to bring the universe, including time, to a complete end. They never explained how they expected/intended to "ascend" to become "beings of consciousness alone" but they would have been freed from "cause and effect", as Rassilon said. After the "reality bomb", there would still have been the possibility that matter etc. could have re-formed (if the "reality bomb" emission had been switched off). Because time was still running, change was still possible. Eventually, the Daleks could have had something worth ruling. Admittedly, "eventually" would probably mean a very, very, very long time. After the Time Lords' "Ultimate Sanction", no change would have been possible because there would have been no time in which change could occur. The difference would be rather academic from our (human) point of view -- either way, we'd cease to exist -- but the Time Lords' plans were much more drastic than those of the Daleks. Davros was exaggerating that "reality itself" would have been destroyed by his bomb, but it '''would '''have been by the "Ultimate Sanction". --[[Special:Contributions/78.146.183.1|78.146.183.1]]<sup>[[User talk:78.146.183.1#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:03, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
So if we are to assume that a person's conciousness remains with them whatever happens to the body, would they just become "ghosts" if their body was turned to nothing? I think the earlier suggestion about conciousness' remaining with the body is very unlikely, and besides, Jane Espenson has CONFIRMED that incineration was enough to cause death on MD. [[Special:Contributions/87.102.117.106|87.102.117.106]]<sup>[[User talk:87.102.117.106#top|talk to me]]</sup> 22:23, January 6, 2012 (UTC)
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