Talk:10,000 Dawns (series)

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What, specifically, causes this to be invalid? The stories, at least partly, seem to be licensed, and they don't seem to be parodic in nature. Cookieboy 2005 10:24, 2 July 2022 (UTC)

Ah. There were multiple threads about this, which failed to reach a final conclusion before the Forums' demise. The stories are certainly licensed (there were concerns about this in the earliest threads but they were ultimately dismissed). If they weren't, we wouldn't have pages for them at all — as a rule {{invalid}} sources are stories which are licensed, but shouldn't be "counted" for other reasons. Fanfic isn't "invalid", it's not covered at all.
The 10,000 Dawns crossover stories were invalidated by the second-to-last thread on the subject, due to a suggestion that they were not intended to take place in the Doctor Who universe, i.e. that they failed Rule 4 of the four little rules. A story doesn't need to be parodical to be intended to take place outside the DWU.
That being said, even that has been heavily called into question; but the final thread that would have seen us remove the invalid tags was frozen for procedural reasons unrelated to the main thrust, and because the Forums proceeded to go "poof", that is where things have remained. I agree it's untidy to have stories whose invalidity we couldn't "justify" without making misleading statements, yet which we cannot make valid, lest we break policy about Forum debates only being overturned by other Forum debates; but so it goes. Hopefully we shouldn't have too long to wait before we have Forums again and can square away this peculiar situation. In the meantime, there are many other, perhaps higher-profile stories, including ones by Arcbeatle Press, to which editing time can be given over instead. Scrooge MacDuck 12:29, 2 July 2022 (UTC)