Talk:Blood of the Cybermen (video game)/Archive 1

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Collectables

These are the collectables I found in Blood of the Cybermen only. If you find any more, please could you tell me the location in the game and what Act in the game you found it/them? Thanks.

Doctors

• Fourth

• Seventh

• Eighth

Companions

• Donna Noble
• Martha Jones

• Rose Tyler

• Sarah Jane Smith

Friends

• River Song
• Jackie Tyler

Enemies

• Sontarans
• Cybermen

Jelly Babies

• Raspberry
• Lime
• Blueberry
• Vanilla

For all the collectables that have so far been found in City of the Daleks and Blood of the Cybermen, go to the City of the Daleks' discussion page. Napra12345 18:26, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Where is Jackie Tyler in Blood of the Cybermen? Seems to be the only card I'm missing Dsrwade23 18:40, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

I'm pretty sure (as far as I can remember) that she was in Act 3, in that building where you're looking for Amy, there are Cybermen guarding. Just search it thouroughly. I'm not quite sure of the exact location. Napra12345 20:26, July 4, 2010 (UTC)

Thanks for the advice. Dsrwade23 09:10, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

Where is the Cyberman card located? It's the only one I need Thelunnster 22:15, July 5, 2010 (UTC)

In Act 2, in the building where you find Professor Meadows, there is a room with some lockers inside it. The very left locker contains the Cybermen collectable. Napra12345 20:05, July 6, 2010 (UTC)

Cybermen

It's never explained, why have the Cybermen removed the Cybus logo? Are these the Mondasian Cybermen and if so, how come they look exactly like the Cybus Cybermen? --TehDash 20:52, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

• My guess is the logo show's that they're not Cybus cybermen. Reverting back to previous models would have confused the majority of new fans (mainly children), and a brand new design would have taken up too much time/money.Geek Mythology 10:46, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

• The latest episodes (The Pandorica Opens especially) proved the Cybus Cybermen continue to exist in our universe, and are now a sea-faring race. Either the ones in the game are a future version of these, or perhaps there is another theory. Is it possible that the two types of Cyberman at some point meet and merge into one single race? --Samoth 15:16, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
• Uh Sea-Faring? I think you mean Space Faring Fan555 17:16, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Oh, so sorry. I didn't notice I even worte that ... how emberassing ... --Samoth 10:15, June 29, 2010 (UTC)

• I assumed the Cracks weakened the barriers between universes, and that was why the Cybusmen were in our universe. After the events of the Big Bang, the Cracks never existed, therefore, I think the parallel cybermen are still stuck in the void. As this is set, before the finale, they could be parallel cyberman, but where's the logo? My theory: they are Mondasian cybermen. Why do they look like Cybusmen? Well, with a lot of retconning I've come up with a theory: In the future, some groups of cybermen developed Time Travel (some Big Finish Audios, most notably "The Reaping", confirm this). One of those groups adopted the design seen in this story (and stated saying: Delete!), and eventually had an army buried under the Arctic (essentially leaving their home time, causing the Cyberman in the reaping to believe it was the last). Due to the time travelling, knowledge of these future cyberman was obtained by earlier cybermen some time before "The Invasion". After the events of the Invasion, information on the Cybermen was left in the files of International Electromatics. However, these events (or at least most of them) happened in Pete's World. John Lumic got the inspiration for the Cybermen after purchasing International Electromatics, and chose to build them to the future design. TemporalSpleen 17:26, June 28, 2010 (UTC)
• We can safely say that the Cybusmen were invented in 2006/07 and seeing how these ones were in our universe for thousands of years they're probably the original Mondasmen. -BlueDalek 16:49, July 8, 2010 (UTC)
• You're just completely ignoring what happened in the Pandorica Opens and the Next Doctor then. They have a Cyberlord, they look like Cybus Cybermen; they're just as likely to be Cybus Cybermen who abandoned their commercial heritage.203.168.176.42 07:05, July 10, 2010 (UTC)
• In Meadows' lab, in the GSO Zebra Bay level, if you click on the Cyberman arm, you get the following information "The Cybermen were originally humans from Earth's twin planet Mondas. They began to implant artificial parts in their bodies to help them live longer." It strikes me as odd that they would say this if the Cybermen are supposed to be Cybus-variety, since that's an old series fact that is of zero relevence to the origins of the Cybusmen. Couple that with the lack of logo, the use of Cybermats and the place in the timeline, and I assumed these were supposed to be Mondasmen, and the design change was a simple retcon, probably for the reason Geek Mythology suggested. Not saying I'm right, but you know, Occam's razor and all. Just my tuppenorth. Bobby G 20:08, July 14, 2010 (UTC)
• You mean the card? The card also mention Cybus Cybermen and Cybus Industry...it just lists the general chronological appearance of any Cybermen in the TV Series.--203.168.176.42 10:08, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
• No, not the card. The card depicts Cybus Cybermen, anyway. I meant the actual in-game "fact" that you get when you examine the Cyberman arm. The Cybus Cybermen are mentioned in a later fact, when you examine the body of the second dead Cyberslave, but only as a piece of incidental information. Bobby G 19:48, July 17, 2010 (UTC)
• I just went back to check it...Yeah, the Cyberman arm does mention Mondasian, but if you get the information the same way, how could one be incidental fact and another as in-game "fact", and they are labelled "Doctor Who Fact" together with real world facts like "nano-techonology"...I doubt that they are meant to be anything...As far as I know, the only "in-game" clues are that:

1. Cyber-Lord (different logo)
2. Cybermat (different design)
3. Cybus arm weapon
4. Look like Cybus cybermen
5. Removes victim's brain for conversion
6. New logo that seems to be etched on the armor, and logo cover thingy seems to be gone
7. Hibernation thing
8. Computer like thinking
9. Caught in a timestorm
10. Conversion chamber looks Cybus-ish but seems more high tech
11. Wireless capacity

• Ambiguous but odd things that may but are likely not clues:

1. nano-technology including nano-biotechnology
2. the ship is decorated by Gallifreyan-script-like patterns
3. constantly entering and leaving the control room for no apparent reason

• Completely stupid stuff that are hopefully not clues:

1. Need the Doctor to help them arrange simple dots to awaken them
2. First thing they do after waking up is not to repair the ship and conversion chambers, but was to march to some place in the Arctic without carrying any supplie/equipments especially when they just brought the Doctor to somewhere near a computer that can disable all of them
3. Fanfare that shows up in the most inappropriate time...like sucessfully resurrecting the Cybermen or the most trivial stuff like being able to look through a telescope or opening a locker
4. If you can't help the Cybermen, you lose! You will be forced to do it again and only to find out after a series of dialogue that the Doctor can use the same computer to disable all Cyberunits... --203.168.176.42 14:42, July 20, 2010 (UTC)

• • I meant incidental in the sense that it's only mentioned in passing, and the majority of information about the Cybermen in-game is either Mondas-specific or general. But, whatever, I mean, it's certainly not definitive proof or anything. It just seemed the logical assumption to me, but perhaps not. Bobby G 20:42, July 21, 2010 (UTC)

Infobox

Shouldn't it say story number instead of series number? And why doesn't the previous/next box appear at the bottom?? Geek Mythology 14:57, June 23, 2010 (UTC)

Why isn't the previous story showing up? The Thirteenth Doctor 10:55, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

Timeline

• How do we know this episode was after the Big Bang and not before it??? lottie01 15:49, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
  • i would say it was before because amy didnt know who the cybermen were Revanvolatrelundar 15:58, June 26, 2010 (UTC)
  • Exactly presuming she doesn't meet the cybermen in tonight's ep (sorry forgot to sign - lottie01 16:07, June 26, 2010 (UTC))

Technically this should be before the Lodger due to The Pandorica Opens being right after the Lodger86.181.146.2 16:28, June 26, 2010 (UTC)

The Doctor confirmed that a period of about 3 weeks occurred between the Lodger and the Pandorica Opens, plenty of time could have happened then. Also, episode can't happen after the Big Bang because not only did Rory join the Doctor and Amy in the Tardis, but they're heading immediately to the Christmas special, so the games have to happen between Victory of the Daleks (and by extension City of the Daleks) and Vampires in Venice, or between Cold Blood and the Pandorica Opens. (Posted this whilst not signed in like the fool I am, adam_148, 11:16, June 27 2010.)

If it leads straight to the Christmas Special, what's the History Hunt going to be and The Eleventh Doctor appearance in Sarah Jane Adventures?

• Since the events of The Big Bang practically meant that the Alliance was never formed, Amy Pond would not have met the Cybermen and almost been assimilated. Therefore the next time she sees them, she would not be able to recognise them. This still doesn't explain why she's travelling alone with the Doctor after the events of The Big Bang though. --Samoth 15:46, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
• Technically speaking, it's never stated she never knew what the Cybermen were, only that she didn't recognise the arm for what it was. Just throwing that in. - I. Am. Excalibur-117-^{(talk • contribs)} 16:23, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
  • No, she didn't know what a Cyberman was, the Doctor had to explain it to her. The story takes place after the Big Bang, as Amy hadn't met them before in it (did she ask about them in this, I haven't played it yet). The absence of Rory has not been explained yet, but there is no need of it yet. I'm pretty sure that next series there will be a time when it is just the Doctor and Amy and we'll be able to fit it in there. As for the Christmas Special, there is absolutely no indication that the next event they go to is going to be the Christmas Special. If it was to do with the orient express event, I'm sure they'd show the title. The Thirteenth Doctor 17:13, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
  • Really? I have a bad memory, nevermind then. This is the problem with Doctor Who, the production team never try to stay consistant across all the different media. Most likely it occurs at some point after the Big Bang, presumably at some point in the Series 6 timeframe.- I. Am. Excalibur-117-^{(talk • contribs)} 17:19, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
    • Maybe the cracks in time consumed these Cybermen at some point? they apparently can eat up whole armies like the Daleks in the Medusa Cascade.

Title Comment

I just want to say that if The Cybermen are robots,that means they don't have blood.But I do have a theory.Well actually two.Theory number one: The Cyberslaves might have blood.Theory number 2:It might mean the blood of the people they kill.I have not played it(nor City of the Daleks for that matter)but I have seen in the trailer that a cyberslave electrocuted someone by throwing its electricity over a short distance.Uh oh does this mean they are more powerful than the Cybermen.Though in a poster in dwa there is a poster of some cybermen with a Sontaran and one of the cybermen have the bolt between both hands.195.93.21.2 14:55, June 27, 2010 (UTC)

Trailer Terror

I have noticed in the trailer that when a Cyberslave blasts some electricity at a girl,I had a thought that it was Amy.UH-OH BIG TERROR.I think it might be a clone or it shows what might happen if you lose!195.93.21.2 13:37, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Trailer Terror

I have noticed in the trailer that when a Cyberslave blasts some electricity at a girl,I had a thought that it was Amy.UH-OH BIG TERROR.I think it might be a clone or it shows what might happen if you lose!195.93.21.2 13:37, July 3, 2010 (UTC)

Spiders

I think it should be noted under referense when Amy mentions spiders that The Doctor would rather change the subject on it as an reference from when he was killed in his third inccarnation to his fourth.

Glitches

When my sister was playing, she discovered a glitch. When Amy is stuck in the radio room with the cyberslave chasing her it is possible to go through the wall. The game doesn't change; the supspence music is still playing and you can't interact with anything. There are no Cyberslaves or Cybermats so you can't die. It is impossible to get back in (as far as I know). The only way to get out is to quit and choose to continue the game, so you are back in the room with the cyberslave. The Doctor is nowhere near the door so he is not trying to get through it. (I know games don't do details though. Lawl.) If you find anymore glitches, please add them. MistakeFinder 17:07, July 16, 2010 (UTC)

PC only internationally

Since the article is protected, could someone please add to the infobox and the main body that the international release of the game is PC only? Thanks. 68.146.81.123 22:40, July 25, 2010 (UTC)

They are Mondas Cybermen

The Cybermen are Mondas Cybermen. Phil Ford says [1] "We’ve ambitious sets, a thrill-a-minute narrative, and we re-introduce a Doctor Who adversary not seen since the Tom Baker era.". They are Mondasian. --Mc hammark 20:16, August 14, 2010 (UTC)

He is referring to the Cybermats. Following Tom's time on the programme we saw them in the Davison era (Earthshock, The Five Doctors), the Baker era (Colin) (Attack of the Cybermen) and also the McCoy era (Silver Nemesis) --The Brig 20:22, August 14, 2010 (UTC)