Talk:Fortnite
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Should Fortnite be moved to Fortnite (video game)? LEGO Dimensions is located at LEGO Dimensions (video game), so I believe that Fortnite should be moved. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 17:33, 6 April 2022 (UTC)
- Additionally, it would help to distinguish between the real world video game and the potential future in-universe video game, similar to the difference between The Day of the Doctor (TV story) and The Day of the Doctor. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 13:05, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
- afaik the distinction is that LEGO Dimensions (video game) has Doctor Who narrative content, even if it fails T:VALID for reasons that frankly I strongly disagree with and certain users here consider bizarre. (That is, that gameplay elements are considered narrative as well, so the story has a "mushy middle" and there's simply too much narrative content to resolve into a satisfying linear narrative.) So by T:DAB Rules it must have the (video game) dab term. But Fortnite isn't a story as it's covered by this wiki, it's just a video game that has a Doctor Who elements. (Arguably we might want to treat Doctor Who Fortnite as being a story though, since the press release does seem to be playing up the narrative elements. Perhaps someone who's played it can comment?) Najawin ☎ 01:51, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- No, that's not quite right. Non-narrative games can be dabbed just as well as narrative ones, if disambiguation is necessary. What I think you're misremembering is that invalid sources don't necessarily need to be dabbed; but that's true regardless of narrativity. (See for example Search Out Space — not that I think that should be invalid either, personally.) And we do tend to increasingly err on the side of dabbing anyway these days. So if there's potential reader confusion about whether this Fortnite page is in-universe or not, we can certainly choose to dab it.
- afaik the distinction is that LEGO Dimensions (video game) has Doctor Who narrative content, even if it fails T:VALID for reasons that frankly I strongly disagree with and certain users here consider bizarre. (That is, that gameplay elements are considered narrative as well, so the story has a "mushy middle" and there's simply too much narrative content to resolve into a satisfying linear narrative.) So by T:DAB Rules it must have the (video game) dab term. But Fortnite isn't a story as it's covered by this wiki, it's just a video game that has a Doctor Who elements. (Arguably we might want to treat Doctor Who Fortnite as being a story though, since the press release does seem to be playing up the narrative elements. Perhaps someone who's played it can comment?) Najawin ☎ 01:51, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- That being said, if Doctor Who Fortnite is the actual crossover story (or "story", as the case may be), I'm not sure this should be dabbed as a "(video game)" — isn't this more of a Category:Real world series with DWU connections sort of page, about the franchise, with Doctor Who Fortnite as the page about the specific crossover entry? And accordingly, should this not be Fortnite (series) or something like that? Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 10:43, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
- Coming back to this, it was merely based on T:DAB RULES, which said "Story titles are always disambiguated, according to T:DAB TERM". I completely ignored/kinda forgot about the invalid stories not having dab terms issue. (Both because I honestly forgot, and because I think this decision is stupid.) I was just rejecting that Fortnite is a story per se.
- As for the particular dab here, I wouldn't say that (series) is correct. Though I'm not a massive Fortnite player. But, for instance, if someone were to call League a "series" as opposed to a game I would consider this a massive mischaracterization. So I assume Fortnite players would consider this the same. Najawin ☎ 07:31, 1 October 2022 (UTC)
- I used to play Fortnite, and I definitely wouldn't call this a "series", at least not in any conventional sense. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 13:26, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
- Potential solution: Fortnite isn't exactly a video game, it's a collection of games, but not exactly in the sense of a series of games either. So, we split this page into two pages, the specific game itself being put into Fortnite Battle Royale (if that's the game the DWU elements are in) and the rest of the info being put into a Fortnite (game engine) or Fortnite (game platform) or something similar; this would also give us a better dab term for Roblox (video game), which is currently dabbed as a video game, but is actually as platform for video games. 14:48, 2 October 2022 (UTC)
