Talk:Mary Shelley (short story)

No deletion

This is exactly in the same vein as entries such as Unknown object—RHCTDM-OEI-OLOAW/0209 and La Boîte Bleue (short story). This is just as valid. --Danniesen ☎ 07:08, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

The others are DWU entries, this is a pre-existing real world biography which now happens to tie into FindTheDoctor (series). Also note that the first one you mentioned is currently invalid while you created this as valid. Danochy ☎ 07:12, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

In that case, all that is required is adding "invalid" to it. It's as easy as that. I just created it. Articles change over time. You can't expect me to think of every detail in one go. --Danniesen ☎ 07:17, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Note that the first one was originally NOT invalid, further establishing how our rulings for pages changes. --Danniesen ☎ 07:19, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I'm still not sure whether this deserves a page but it is interesting to note that using Wayback Machine it seems the paragraph starting "Familiar to scholars" is wholly new to the British Library's participation in #Find the Doctor. Borisashton ☎ 14:29, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

I think the page should stay, no matter if its valid or invalid. As stated above, at least some of the information on the page has been altered to reflect the #FindtheDoctor series. This is just a much a part of the series as any of the previous artefacts. 66 Seconds ☎ 15:49, 3 September 2021 (UTC)

Invalidity

Currently, this source is marked as being invalid, due to the fact that much of the biography had already existed prior to its inclusion in the #FindTheDoctor ARG.

Now, pre-existing sources being recontextualised as part of the Doctor Who universe has been done many-a-time before. For example, all of the stories in the Tales from the TARDIS series originated as unrelated Marvel comic adaptations of other media, before being altered to add DWU elements, such as the Fourth Doctor as a framing device for the stories (albeit quite in-depth). In a more extreme case, several comics printed in The Dalek Outer Space Book had absolutely no elements of the DWU, but were relevant due to where they were printed and the intent behind their printing in said piece - that being that they're set in the same universe.

It's also worth noting that, as stated in an above comment, part of the biography was actually original to the mystery, with some of the clues being placed within the new sections.

Although it may be better to combine all of the ARG pieces into one story, I'd like to put forward that I believe this story is somewhere between the comics with in-depth framing devices and the seemingly unrelated comics, in that it contains minor elements of the DWU (in that it bolds "Doctor" for a darned reason), but to a more minor degree than 4's introductions and descriptions of the comic sources (fairly close to being wholly unrelated, but not entirely).

I propose for this biography to be a valid source of information on this wiki. Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 22:18, 22 December 2022 (UTC)

(alright, maybe bolding the word "Doctor" was just because of What3Words, but I still believe this should be a valid contribution to the DWU) Cookieboy 2005 ☎ 22:51, 22 December 2022 (UTC)