Talk:Resolution (TV story)

The News Years Eve's

I intended to update the relavant articles with what we know about the "19 New Years Eve's" the Doctor took her companions to, but I realised it's not particularly clear as to what the years were. Like, when Ryan said 2000, was he referring to the New Years Eve that was ringing in that year (31 December, 1999) or the New Years Eve of that year (31 December, 2000)? TheFatPanda ☎ 20:43, January 1, 2019 (UTC)

Tuesday?

I'm sure I just missed it, but when does the story confirm that it takes place on a Tuesday?
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 02:12, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

It's on Lin's phone just as she's left the sewers. --Borisashton ☎ 02:20, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Dalek "redesign"?

The article's intro prattles on about this being the new redesign of the Daleks since the New Paradigm Daleks in Victory of the Daleks, and I assume this is a holdover from how feverish we all were from the rumors of the Daleks being redesigned that circulated before airing. But… is it really accurate to say they were redesigned, here? As I understand it, the Resolution Dalek's special appearance and features are due to its being a Reconnaissance Scout Dalek — it's not that the shape of what are to be the default Daleks has been changed; we've just gotten our first glimpse of a nonstandard type of Dalek we'd never seen before, but which had existed all along. Saying Resolution redesigned the Daleks ends up equivalent to arguing that the Special Weapons Dalek introduction in Remembrance was a "redesign of the Daleks". --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 15:12, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

It's not a redesign because it's a different class; it's a redesign because it forged a new casing, mostly out of bits of scrap. This same Dalek, seen in illustrations about the battle, just looks like a regular Dalek.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 22:58, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

36 Shrewsbury Road

36 Shrewsbury Road is listed as a filming location on this episode, but from memory the outside of Graham's house never appears. The inside of the house appears to be a set, due to a greater amount of space between the font door and the window than the outside would suggest. Did the outside of the house appear in the episode? 66 Seconds ☎ 18:46, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

I'd have to double check if the scene with Aaron at the door shows the house from the outside. Otherwise, you're right; my error.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 23:00, January 2, 2019 (UTC)

Now I've checked, the front door with the knocker is definitely the same exterior as seen in other episodes. I'll adjust the note to say it's just the front door, though.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 04:05, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Infobox image

Resolution #2

Resolution #3

Why was the image changed? I felt like mine reflected the point of the episode better with the Thirteenth Doctor confronting the Dalek, as opposed to a more generic Thirteen image. Don't mean to be rude, just curious as to why this needed changing. StevieGLiverpool ☎ 11:34, January 3, 2019 (UTC)

Please don't change the infobox image in an edit that purports to be a "minor addition to continuity". The original infobox image is very poorly lit, the Doctor's back is turned to the camera, and because there's very little colour variance it's difficult to discern what's going on without clicking on the image. In short, it does not really meet our criteria in Tardis:Guide to images.

Moreover, the colours present are all very bleak, and while this episode certainly has its darker moments, it also spends quite some time on one-off joke scenes, and starts off with the Doctor and ends on a rather festive tone. Just because an image was the first to be uploaded, does not mean it is the best option.

In the interest of avoiding an edit war, I've put in place a third option, which is from the scene of the Doctor confronting the Dalek, but doesn't have any of the problems described above. You'll see that image as #3 to the right, while #2 is my actual preference.

With all due respect, #2 is anything but a generic Thirteen image. She dons the scarf that only appears in this episode, and is reading from that yellow glow scanner that plays a major part in twice initiating the action in this episode. This was the first moment where the Doctor realises there's danger, but her outfit, the colours and the lighting still evoke the bright, colourful, festive tone which does carry (sprinkled) throughout. I think it's the ideal image for this story, not only because it's the start of the action but because it really captures the tone and feel of Resolution like no other shot.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 00:11, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

I figured, since a third one has popped up, we might as well open an infobox discussion:

As always, a good infobox image is one which exemplifies what the story was about, as best as an image can do. The big things in this episode were the Thirteenth Doctor's first confrontation with a Dalek, Ryan and Dad's relationship and the episode occurring on New Year's day. Naturally, the biggest one (the A Plot) is the Doctor confronting the Dalek, specifically the Dalek part. The original (option #1) exemplifies this best while the other three solely focus on the Doctor doing things that can be interpreted as being in any other episode. While #4 is the brightest, it doesn't distinguish itself as Resolution's image as it does not hit the episode's key aspect: the Dalek appearance and facing the Doctor. Hence, the image should reflect that distinction. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 00:02, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

Sorry about the edit conflict there; we both seem to have started the discussion at around the same time. The compromise image, #3 on right, could not possibly come from another episode, as it's literally the Doctor through the POV of the Dalek's eyestalk. And it's a new visual for the Dalek POV as well. I see where you're coming from, about showing the Dalek, but the two scenes where the rebuilt Dalek and the Doctor are together are rather poorly lit, the first one especially. Again, #1 does not meet the critera of T:GTI, for reasons outlined above.

And for the bulk of the episode, the Dalek is not in its casing; it's controlling Lin. The more iconic image of the enemy in this episode is frankly Lin in the police officer uniform pointing her Dalek gunstick. Unfortunately, near as I can tell, there are no good (well-framed, properly still) images of that. And I just don't think an image mostly devoid of colour is fitting for Resolution, T:GTI aside.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 00:19, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

It's cool ^_^ edit conflicts are always a pain.

Proposal #6 is easily the best lit and captures the Dalek aspect with the upwards angle adding an imposing feel to the enemy which proposal #4 lacks. #5 is just general - we can't really tell what the squid creature is and the character is not a regular so people looking to learn about the episode will lack any instant insight the image can provide. As you said, if a shot was available of Lin with the Gunstick, that'd be a clear winner for uniqueness.

Strong justification on #2, however, the New Year's aspect is background setting compared to the episode's main piece; the Dalek. I'll still with #1 over #2 for now based on that principle. For me, #6 is the best - clear, bright, imposing and emphasises that this episode is definitely about the Daleks. Although, the confrontation between the Doctor and the Dalek still takes higher authority with me; should an image crop up better fitting TARDIS guide to images, I'll support that. Snivy ✦ The coolest Pokemon ever ✦ 00:26, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

I'm leaning towards #3, our current one. From lighting to showing the Dalek/Thirteen confrontation I think it's the best one for Resolution. StevieGLiverpool ☎ 01:23, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

I don't have a dog in this fight; I haven't seen the episode and don't plan to watch it. Instead, I want to clear out any images that don't fit what we want for a story infobox image. First of all, we want the image to, as User:Snivystorm says above, "exemplify what the story was about". Usually, close up images of characters don't quite cut it, because those images could come from any story. Therefore, I've removed images #4 and #6. Image #5, speaking as someone who doesn't know the story, doesn't really convey anything clearly, so I removed that one. And image #1 violates one of the tenets of Tardis:Guide to images: "don't use the ass shot".

That leaves #2 and #3, but feel free to suggest other images that fit our guidelines. I recommend reading Tardis:Guide to images for anyone who hasn't done so yet. Shambala108 ☎ 05:13, January 4, 2019 (UTC)

Story Notes

"*This is the first full Doctor Who television story to not feature a Doctor Who logo as the opening titles are omitted entirely."

What about "The Woman Who Fell to Earth"? I'm pretty certain the logo doesn't feature in that – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Bhind45 (talk • contribs) .

Illustration error?

I've noticed when we see the close-up of the Custodian's drawing the recon Dalek in the image appears to be "left handed" (i.e. the plunger/claw arm is on the left and the gunstick is on the right) Is that an error in the illustration or possibly mirrored footage? – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Tidmouthmilk12‎ (talk • contribs) .

Look at the BBC logo — not mirrored, can't be. As for whether it's an "error" in the illustration, who knows? We don't ever see the Reconnaissance Dalek's original casing to check. He's incredibly ancient, who knows what a 60s-flavour Recon Scout Dalek's casing looked like? Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 14:42, 17 June 2023 (UTC)