Talk:The Crusade (TV story)

"It was also the first story to have non-white actors in it as opposed to just painting the face." Surely this is incorrect - Zienia Merton was Ping-Cho in Marco Polo. She's half Burmese and is a non-white actor. (Never edited a wiki/done a wiki talk, sorry if I've screwed up anything - the instructions are clear as mud to a noob like me) -Roe 92.233.53.65^{talk to me} 14:13, June 2, 2015 (UTC)

Unclear meaning

"Most of the actors in this story had either just been in a Doctor Who, or were just about to do so, namely: Gabor Baraker, Zohra Sehgal, Walter Randall, Jean Marsh, Reg Pritchard and Bernard Kay. The latter was a common practice at the time."

Presumably all of them were about to be in a Doctor Who, as they are all in The Crusade. And are we saying that Bernard Kay was a common practice at the time?165.225.76.56^{talk to me} 10:31, August 23, 2017 (UTC)

Setting

The infobox claims that this story is set in 1190, however there is no reference to the exact date in the story, with the novelisation placing it some time between 1190 and 1192:

The Doctor spread out his hands. ‘We can’t possibly go to King Richard wearing clothes like these. We are on Earth at the time of the Third Crusade, my boy, in Palestine; some time between A.D. 1190 and 1192. We must find wearing apparel suitable to the time and place.’

Is there a source for the 1190 date, or can I change it to 1190s, or similar? Danochy ☎ 09:26, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

If there's no reference to the date in the story, or even the decade, then all date references should be removed. If it's mentioned in another story (for example the novelization), that can be added to Story Notes section. Shambala108 ☎ 14:49, January 11, 2020 (UTC)

I'm afraid I'm going to have to disagree there - there is a huge precedent for using in-universe evidence from other stories to determine infobox dates. As T:IBOX says, only controversial information shouldn't be put in an infobox. An example of a controversial setting is TV: The Web of Fear where there are at least four different contradictory sources for a setting. With situations like The Crusade, there is but a single source (the novelisation) thus making it non-controversial (and T:NPOV says that all media has equal weight). Danochy ☎ 03:56, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

That may be true for in-universe pages, but putting the date in a story infobox implies that the story itself mentions the date. Shambala108 ☎ 04:50, January 15, 2020 (UTC)

So are you saying the many 21st century stories from the 9th-13th Doctors' TV eras should not have the dates in the infobox unless the date is explicitly stated in the story itself? Many of them have dates in the infobox based on information given in other television stories, such as references to events in previous years. And what about The Faceless Ones, which has its date given solely based on the fact that the Doctor mentions they arrived on the same day as The War Machines finished. If this is the case, there's a lot of updating needing to be done. Danochy ☎ 00:42, February 15, 2020 (UTC)