Talk:The Daft Dimension (series)
Multiple issues with policy and and potential renames[[edit source]]
I have been working on an editing project to better document this series. One thing I've come across while doing this is that all pages on concepts specific to The Daft Dimension stories are quite inaccurately named. Take, for example, The Doctor (The Daft Dimension 489). At first glance, you would assume that this character is from the 489th issue of The Daft Dimension. In fact, there are (at the time that I am writing this) only 83 issues of The Daft Dimension, and this character appears in the 13th. The 489 actually refers to DWM 489, the magazine issue in which this comic was published. However, this isn't clear and could be quite misleading to people newer to Doctor Who. This issue also appears on a number of other pages, as well as a number of uncreated pages that are still linked to.
What to actually put as the dab term isn't particularly clear either. The story in which the previously discussed character appears is in already has a dab term, being The Daft Dimension (DWM 489 comic story). Therefore, the obvious choice might be to make The Doctor (The Daft Dimension 489) into The Doctor (The Daft Dimension (DWM 489 comic story)). However, this is incredibly long and unwieldly. Additionally, using multiple sets of brackets is recommended against by T:NAMING. Another possible option could be The Doctor (The Daft Dimension 13), which is much clearer.
However, there is actually another, underlying, issue in that T:NO TITLE states that series in which the individual entries have no clear name, they should be abbreviated and numbered, which would make The Daft Dimension (DWM 489 comic story) into TDD 13. The issue with this, however, is that there is already a series abbreviated to TDD: The Daredevils. If this were to be switched to TD, this could be made to work. If this were to happen, all 83 issues of The Daft Dimension would need to be renamed, along with all concepts specific to it (The Doctor (TDD 13) for example). Another issue with this is that there are some comic stories with individual names that have been bundled into The Daft Dimension, such as The Secret History of Life Before Doctor Who Magazine! (comic story). I'm not sure how this could be resolved.
One more issue that I have come across (which would actually be rectified if the above action was to be taken) is that there are currently 83 pages named The Daft Dimension using a dab, while the actual page titled The Daft Dimension is not a disambiguation page, instead being the series overview. T:DAB recommends that a disambiguation page should be created if 3 things share a common name. I personally think this is better how it currently is, although it does seem to go against policy, which is why I bring it up.
I hope this makes some sense and isn't too incoherent. I kept on finding new issues as I was writing and fact checking this so sorry if the structure isn't clear. Thank you for reading. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎ 20:44, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- I think the current naming scheme (which is based upon my coverage of Doctor Who?) is perfectly fine. While The Doctor (The Daft Dimension 489) might imply what you suggest, the naming convention would become clear when they go to the story article cited. Additionally, I think the current way is better for general searchability. If a reader wants to find wiki coverage for a particular story they have just read, they would almost certainly have no idea how many instalments of The Daft Dimension had come before but they would know which issue of Doctor Who Magazine they had just read.
- As for the naming of the stories themselves, I'm sure an admin will correct me if I'm wrong but I don't think T:NO TITLE is generally applied to stories (see Untitled). Also, I believe the idea is that each story holds the individual title The Daft Dimension rather than being untitled. In this case, it's similar to how we handle things like The Gift (ST short story) and The Gift (TDoC short story).
- As for the disambaguation page, one could be created at The Daft Dimension (disambiguation) if one was deemed necessary but this page already acts as a de facto disambaguation page by listing all the stories which are called The Daft Dimension. Borisashton ☎ 21:36, 28 March 2021 (UTC)
- What you say is very true. Maybe this was just me being overly picky. I'm still very new here and so are still getting used to the policies so maybe I took them too literally. Bongo50 (aka Bongolium500) ☎ 09:54, 29 March 2021 (UTC)