Talk:The Hybrid

Added an Interpretations section

Hey there. I've added an interpretations section with entries for Ashildr, the Doctor and the Doctor and another person, in that order. I think this serves to make the article more in-depth, and I hope it suffices. Note that I'm an American, and I'm aware that this Wikia prefers British English, so if there's any instances of American English in the article, please let me know so I can change them to something more suitable. I hope my edits are otherwise acceptable. Please enjoy them and have a lovely day. Devitt.logan ☎ 05:22, January 8, 2016 (UTC)

Moffat's comments

Added a Behind the Scenes section to cover off Moffat's comments in DWM 504. Although we can't include them in the "in-universe" section as there's yet to be anything on screen to support it, statements by the showrunner - and the creator of the Hybrid concept - need to be acknowledged, so I put them in here. 23skidoo ☎ 13:48, September 29, 2016 (UTC)

As a (bootstrapped) prophecy

There's not much here about the role of the hybrid prophecy. One reading of what's on screen was there was never any hybrid, only the prophecy.

Heaven Sent:

 The Hybrid is a very dangerous secret. A very, very dangerous secret and it needs to be kept!

The Doctor is not afraid of the Hybrid. The Doctor went through 4.5bn years afraid of confessing that he'd made up the Hybrid himself. He then bootstraps it into existence in the same way as 'Mercy' is given to Davros and the behaviour of the Doctor's 'ghost' is reinforced by prior knowledge.

In Hell Bent he tells Clara:

 It doesn't matter what the Hybrid is. It only matters that I convinced them that I knew. Otherwise they'd have kicked me out, I'd have had nothing left to bargain with

Like most other Matrix prophecies we've seen, these have been tampered with. Why did the Doctor visit the Matrix if not to create the prophecy that =has brought him there, allowed him to stage a coup and rescue Clara (as he still thinks he can)?

--Cedders ☎ 00:38, February 13, 2017 (UTC)

Timeless Children

Just wondering why my change was undone, and how:

• Elements of the prophecy were also seen to occur in the series 12, finale The Timeless Children.
  • A hybrid creature (the Spy Master had merged with the Cyberium), would stand over the ruins of Gallifrey and unravel the Web of Time (the Master had hacked into the Matrix), breaking a billion billion hearts to heal its own (the Master had also slaughtered the TimeLords after he became distraught at learning the truth of their origins).

is any more "really speculative" that the description it was reverted to:

• In series 12, opening two-parter Spyfall had the Spy Master reveal that he had destroyed Gallifrey and left it in ruins. In the second part of the two-part finale, The Timeless Children, has the Doctor actually stand in the ruins of Gallifrey; technically bringing the prophecy to pass.

MadeIndescribable ☎ 22:25, March 2, 2020 (UTC)