Talk:The Sun Makers (TV story)

Jameson quit here?

Removed this from the body:

• During production of this story, Louise Jameson informed the producers that she would be leaving the show at year's end.

This seems unlikely. Shannon Sullivan puts the date of her final decision at around Underworld, which intuitively makes more sense. Remember, The Sun Makers was only the third serial in production order that season. And it's Jameson's oft-stated favorite serial, made within a few weeks of her and Tom mending the fences on Fang Rock. It seems highly improbable to me that she would have quit in the middle of this serial. Removed until sourced. Adding the basic thrust of this note at Underworld. CzechOut ☎ | ✍ 16:30, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Well, the info text does say that it was Jameson's idea (rejected by the production team) that Leela should die in this story. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 19:42, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Possible allusion

Not sure whether this merits inclusion in the article or not. Gatherer Hade (an officious, grandliloquent bureaucrat given to sesquipedalianism) says that the gift of a thousand talmars to the Doctor "added a touch of verisimilitude". This sounds like it might be a deliberate echo of Pooh-Bah in The Mikado (also an officious, grandliloquent bureaucrat given to sesquipedalianism), who describes an added element of a cover story as "merely corroborative detail, intended to give artistic verisimilitude to an otherwise bald and unconvincing narrative." At least, it echoes in my Savoyard brain, but your mileage may vary. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 19:42, June 27, 2012 (UTC)

Ah — so it wasn't entirely baseless. The info text for episode 3 says that Richard Leech saw his character as a version of Pooh-Bah, and one of the respondents to the audience survey thought all the characters had "stepped out of a third-rate version of The Mikado", so at least it's not just me. —Josiah Rowe ^{talk to me} 01:35, June 28, 2012 (UTC)

Dating

There was a story going around a lot of news outlets following the release of Sleep No More about a conversation that Bethany Black had with Mark Gatiss, that went something like this: "The lifelong Who obsessive (Bethany Black) apparently asked Gatiss whether this episode (Sleep No More) was linked to the 1974 story The Sun Makers, because that was also set in the 38th century. He had no idea." I took that quote from the Guardian (http://www.theguardian.com/tv-and-radio/tvandradioblog/2015/nov/14/doctor-who-series-35-episode-9-sleep-no-more) but the story has cropped up in other places too. My question is: is there any actual source that states this story was set in the 38th century? Because I can't seem to find one. KingOrokos ☎ 18:23, January 27, 2016 (UTC)

Cheeky Outfit

"This story marks the last appearance of Leela's darker outfit. For the next two serials — her last — she would continue to wear the lighter (and more revealing) one." To be honest, this outfit is quite revealing. You can see a fair amount of Louise Jameson's backside as she climbs up the ladder in part one.165.225.76.164^{talk to me} 13:25, June 5, 2018 (UTC)

Grade School

"Gatherer, A-Grade, B-Grade and D-Grade are ranks and classifications on Pluto." And Executive Grade, of which Kandor was one.165.225.76.164^{talk to me} 14:43, June 5, 2018 (UTC)