Theory:SJA television discontinuity and plot holes/The Empty Planet
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- Clyde can't leave Earth because he was grounded by the Judoon. However in TV: Death of the Doctor, Clyde did in fact leave Earth.
- The Robots left him there legally. The Doctor does not adhere to legal rules, especially when it affects the course of history itself.
- There is nothing physically preventing him. The law says he can't leave Earth - that doesn't mean he actually can't. It just means he will be punished if he is caught doing so. In this story, the Robots just chose to leave him on Earth to avoid getting into trouble. The Doctor on the other hand, ignored it.
- Rani and Clyde say they have no 'robot dog'. They are listing who has disappeared and correctly say that Mr Smith has gone as he is in fact alive so would also have been removed, but K9 is not alive; so there is no reason to assume that K9 would have vanished. The just assume he's gone which is stupid especially as they hadn't bothered to check. It would have been difficult to check him anyway as they would have to go to the university themselves, but they can't just presume he's not there without checking.
- As you mentioned in your above "statement", they simply say that they have no robot dog. They don't. Whether or not K9 is still on Earth, he is not there to help them.
- And even if he were, the story establishes that electronics (at least initially) were disabled. If Mr. Smith was disabled, then likely so was K-9. And K-9, being self-sufficient, would certainly have found some way to contact Rani or Clyde if it were possible.
- As you mentioned in your above "statement", they simply say that they have no robot dog. They don't. Whether or not K9 is still on Earth, he is not there to help them.
- Mr Smith is actually a sapient crystal called a Xylok encased in the computer interface. The Automatons removed every sapient organism on Earth as legally possible via the warp-shunt, which included Mr Smith.
- Or he was disabled along with the cell phones and computers.
- Mr Smith is actually a sapient crystal called a Xylok encased in the computer interface. The Automatons removed every sapient organism on Earth as legally possible via the warp-shunt, which included Mr Smith.
- Gavin denies the existence of aliens and says he's never seen one. Yet he would have lived through the events depicted in TV: The Stolen Earth/Journey's End along with everyone else. In a similar vein, the sudden loss of 90 minutes shouldn't have confused Haresh so much given that he too would have lived through the events relating to the Dalek relocation of earth.
- The Time Field apparently erased those events from history, according to the story arc of TV Series 5. Note that SJA: The Vault of Secrets also shows that belief in aliens is no longer widespread as of 2010.
- Rani and Clyde have traveled in the TARDIS as recently as the previous storyline. Yet they have not acquired the ability of the Doctor's companions to understand any language.
- According to TV: The Christmas Invasion, the translation ability is a function of the TARDIS's Telepathic circuits and requires the Doctor's participation to an extent. Since the Doctor and the TARDIS are not on Earth at the time, this is likely why Rani and Clyde do not understand the alien language.
- Rani and Clyde state that they were left on Earth because the Judoon grounded them and not Sarah Jane or Luke. However, they were grounded for locking up Captain Tybo and Luke had a hand in that. It also seemed like Tybo included Luke in the grounding as well.