User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-26285319-20170104192003/@comment-26845762-20170304041258

In an effort to resurrect this debate, I strongly support Amorkuz' idea. In order to prevent (at least some of) the incredibly long inclusion debates, we need concrete rules.

Would you agree that - unless their is evidence to indicate a story is not meant to be set in the DWU - all stories with licensed use of characters/species/objects that originate from a Doctor Who story should be covered on this wiki, but if a thread decides that a "spin-off of a spin-off" story is meant to be in the same continuity as Doctor Who it can be considered valid.

Vince Cosmos: Glam Detective features its titular character in the same situation that he is seen in when he encounters Trisha Tomorrow, Iris Wildthyme, and MIAOW. It has more of chance than the second episode of Baker's End, which features Cosmos as a ghost in the early 21st century. I'm sure it can be mentioned in the BHS, but it doesn't deserve its own page as it doesn't expand on a situation seen in the DWU.

The only connection between Blake's 7 and Doctor Who is a story where a one-off 'Blake's 7 character goes to a planet previously seen in Dr Who. Covering the Blake's 7 TV show would barely improve this wiki's information on the DWU, instead adding a bunch of information on a corner of time and space not even seen in Doctor Who. Basically the same with Star Trek.

Quite frankly, during these inclusion debates, I worry about which admin decides to close it down. If we decide on a more concrete set of rules users won't have to worry about bias in the admin. The sentence " Administrator status does not place you in an elevated status within the Tardis Data Core." is a bit of a lie when a regular user can give their opinion and expect a response while an admin can give their opinion and close down the thread.

Ignoring most of the points brought up in the discussion and comparing allowing one story with the licensed use of several DWU races to allowing entire franchises which have the unlicensed use of a DWU thing as an easter egg in one story.

Shutting down a thought-out debate before it even begins.

The good old "no new evidence was brought up in this discussion" when there was new evidence brought up. Seriously, just say it wasn't substantial! That is so much less...

Infuriating.

Thank God for people like Amorkuz, Thefartydoctor, and OttselSpy25 for leading to rich discussions! Thank Ergon for our current regular admins Shambala108, Doug86, SOTO for doing all the adminny stuff they can when there is such a lack of admin!

Sorry, wanted to get that off my back. No offence meant. Have a nice day. Promise I won't rant ever again.