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User:SOTO/Forum Archive/The Panopticon/@comment-6032121-20200113121045/@comment-1432718-20200114032351

Sometimes a suggested policy change is closed because of technical reasons. This is one of those policies. Long pages take a long time to load, so the goal is to trim where and when we can. A look at Special:Longpages will show that most of the longest pages are the ones I posted on the to-do list cited above.

I will, however, address a few of the comments/questions posted here.

  • User:Scrooge MacDuck said, "The only thing is that as a Wiki reader, I, for one, find myself wanting to character biographies much more often than plot summaries." Well, with all due respect, you are not the only user of this wiki. Other users have other preferences. Most wiki visitors never edit here, and long-loading pages are one of the surest ways to scare them away.
  • User:Scrooge MacDuck said, "As documented by Tardis:We're Wikipedia's evil twin, the in-universe is the focus of this Wiki; plot summaries are nice to have, of course, but they're still more the area of Wikipedia." Unless I'm missing something really obvious, there is no such statement on that policy page.
  • User:Scrooge MacDuck said, "I beg to differ on giving longer paragraphs to some stories than others being a violation of Tardis:Neutral point of view." You can't have it both ways; you can't ask for the policy and then say you don't think it applies.
  • User:NateBumber said, "That said, it’s also undeniable that the hard “2-3 sentences” limit is not always advisable. Two to three sentences would not be appropriate to describe everything we learn about Ada Lovelace in The Book of the War." As you should note in the to-do list I started, I only asked for the very long pages to get this treatment. I'm not suggesting that we clean every character page on the wiki.
  • User:Chubby Potato said, "I think a character page should describe the character's involvement in the story's plot, and a story page's plot section should cover the broader plot as a whole." Yes, that's what is intended. That doesn't mean the character's involvement needs to be extremely detailed. It was decided a while back that plot summaries can be written with great detail.

And incidentally, User:NateBumber, your example of Clara is a very good one to illustrate the difference between the two approaches.

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