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::::: [[File:4x4 Rassilons.jpg|thumb|left|Different Rassilon images]] Yes, I came to believe this to be incorrect. I also realised that this particular look of Simms' Master, with stubble and, importantly, the hood, which he did not wear as the Prime Minister, is from ''The End of Time''. And [[Timothy Dalton|Dalton]]'s Rassilon with a gauntlet is from there too. The previous appearance of Rassilon, in ''[[The Five Doctors (TV story)|The Five Doctors]]'', doesn't look anything like this, at the very least, he has a beard there (disclaimer: I haven't see the story myself). There is, of course, [[Don Warrington|Warrington]]'s audio Rassilon with very limited cover images. But I really don't remember him ever using the gauntlet and his skin colour is much darker than depicted in the comic. In short, all signs point at ''The End of Time''. If the Doctor's fears are taken from that story, it must have already happened for him. | ::::: [[File:4x4 Rassilons.jpg|thumb|left|Different Rassilon images]] Yes, I came to believe this to be incorrect. I also realised that this particular look of Simms' Master, with stubble and, importantly, the hood, which he did not wear as the Prime Minister, is from ''The End of Time''. And [[Timothy Dalton|Dalton]]'s Rassilon with a gauntlet is from there too. The previous appearance of Rassilon, in ''[[The Five Doctors (TV story)|The Five Doctors]]'', doesn't look anything like this, at the very least, he has a beard there (disclaimer: I haven't see the story myself). There is, of course, [[Don Warrington|Warrington]]'s audio Rassilon with very limited cover images. But I really don't remember him ever using the gauntlet and his skin colour is much darker than depicted in the comic. In short, all signs point at ''The End of Time''. If the Doctor's fears are taken from that story, it must have already happened for him. | ||
::::: I believe the placing before the ''Waters of Mars'' is based on a quote I just erased (sorry, here [http://www.cbr.com/bigger-on-the-inside-the-secrets-of-titans-doctor-who-comics/ it is]). It says: "He’s just rejected Christina De Souza as a potential companion — so what makes Gabriella Gonzalez from Brooklyn any different?" So I think this "just" was interpreted literally. But it could be an "extended" just, so to say. In fact, in the same interview, he says "he’s just lost Donna, the person he was coming to regard as his best mate". One of those "justs" must be not immediate. So why not both? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:32, March 7, 2017 (UTC) | ::::: I believe the placing before the ''Waters of Mars'' is based on a quote I just erased (sorry, here [http://www.cbr.com/bigger-on-the-inside-the-secrets-of-titans-doctor-who-comics/ it is]). It says: "He’s just rejected Christina De Souza as a potential companion — so what makes Gabriella Gonzalez from Brooklyn any different?" So I think this "just" was interpreted literally. But it could be an "extended" just, so to say. In fact, in the same interview, he says "he’s just lost Donna, the person he was coming to regard as his best mate". One of those "justs" must be not immediate. So why not both? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:32, March 7, 2017 (UTC) | ||
Here's the thing, it's made clear in the comics that Donna was the last person to travel with him (in that issue where Gabby finds Turlough's diary and Leela's cloths, to be precise-ish). From what I can gather, the comics where he travels with [[Emily Winter]] lead directly into ''Waters of Mars''. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 20:40, March 7, 2017 (UTC) | |||
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Master, Osiran etc. comic book categories
This maybe very misleading for a reader. One might see the Osirans as a premonition, but a reader searching for the Master in this story would be sorely disappointed. I have to reread it to see how exactly these visions interact with the Doctor. But my first feeling is that such categories harm more than help. Amorkuz ☎ 23:51, January 1, 2017 (UTC)
- I have not read the comic story in question, so cannot offer much of a specific opinion. But stories such as The Next Doctor, The Eleventh Hour and The Lodger are not appearances for every Doctor shown, except for the incumbent incarnation. The End of Time and The Eleventh Hour are not Racnoss stories. Journey's End is not the third story to a Malmooth stories category, either. Just because something appears in some visual sense, does not mean that they make an appearance in the story to justify a category, if that makes any sense.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 04:47, January 2, 2017 (UTC)
Rassilon?
I'm looking at the image of supposedly Rassilon, but all I can see is just a Time Lord. Moreover, Time Lord with the red head gear, which Rassilon is rarely seen wearing. The face seems rather indescript (unlike the easily recognisable Simm's Master). My question is: How do we know it is Rassilon? Amorkuz ☎ 23:04, March 6, 2017 (UTC)
- Does he have his gauntlet, perhaps?
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 00:35, March 7, 2017 (UTC)- That's just the thing. We barely see anything. To me it looks like a standard Time Lord figure, obscured by a larger Simms head. I've uploaded the image. Note also that this whole series is set before The End of Time, and, hence, before the Doctor meets the new Rassilon played by Timothy Dalton (to the best of our, viewers' knowledge). So it should not be looking like his face. Amorkuz ☎ 08:54, March 7, 2017 (UTC)
- My bad, there is Rassilon, but not in the image I was looking at before. There is his gauntlet alright. This places the whole series after the main events of The End of Time, during the final farewell tour. Strange. Amorkuz ☎ 20:01, March 7, 2017 (UTC)
- We have the Doctor's adventures with Gabby before The Waters of Mars on the Tenth Doctor's page. Is this not correct? In the picture you posted earlier, it did look like the Master from The End of Time, longer blond hair, stubble and all.
× SOTO (☎/✍/↯) 20:08, March 7, 2017 (UTC)- Yes, I came to believe this to be incorrect. I also realised that this particular look of Simms' Master, with stubble and, importantly, the hood, which he did not wear as the Prime Minister, is from The End of Time. And Dalton's Rassilon with a gauntlet is from there too. The previous appearance of Rassilon, in The Five Doctors, doesn't look anything like this, at the very least, he has a beard there (disclaimer: I haven't see the story myself). There is, of course, Warrington's audio Rassilon with very limited cover images. But I really don't remember him ever using the gauntlet and his skin colour is much darker than depicted in the comic. In short, all signs point at The End of Time. If the Doctor's fears are taken from that story, it must have already happened for him.
- I believe the placing before the Waters of Mars is based on a quote I just erased (sorry, here it is). It says: "He’s just rejected Christina De Souza as a potential companion — so what makes Gabriella Gonzalez from Brooklyn any different?" So I think this "just" was interpreted literally. But it could be an "extended" just, so to say. In fact, in the same interview, he says "he’s just lost Donna, the person he was coming to regard as his best mate". One of those "justs" must be not immediate. So why not both? Amorkuz ☎ 20:32, March 7, 2017 (UTC)
- We have the Doctor's adventures with Gabby before The Waters of Mars on the Tenth Doctor's page. Is this not correct? In the picture you posted earlier, it did look like the Master from The End of Time, longer blond hair, stubble and all.
- My bad, there is Rassilon, but not in the image I was looking at before. There is his gauntlet alright. This places the whole series after the main events of The End of Time, during the final farewell tour. Strange. Amorkuz ☎ 20:01, March 7, 2017 (UTC)
- That's just the thing. We barely see anything. To me it looks like a standard Time Lord figure, obscured by a larger Simms head. I've uploaded the image. Note also that this whole series is set before The End of Time, and, hence, before the Doctor meets the new Rassilon played by Timothy Dalton (to the best of our, viewers' knowledge). So it should not be looking like his face. Amorkuz ☎ 08:54, March 7, 2017 (UTC)
Here's the thing, it's made clear in the comics that Donna was the last person to travel with him (in that issue where Gabby finds Turlough's diary and Leela's cloths, to be precise-ish). From what I can gather, the comics where he travels with Emily Winter lead directly into Waters of Mars. CoT ? 20:40, March 7, 2017 (UTC)
