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The '''pre-universe'''{{source}}, also called the '''Dvapara Yuga''', was the reality that preceded or was replaced by the start of the universe.
The '''pre-universe''',{{source}} also called the '''Dvapara Yuga''', was the reality that preceded or was replaced by the start of the universe.


== Description ==
== Description ==
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Before the Time Lords created the Web of Time, the universe obeyed no laws of physics, and [[magic]] was a powerful force. There existed cities with buildings carved from mile-high arches of [[ivory]], with streets made of [[cobweb]] and gardens tended by stone men. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') Many [[human]]s had semi-[[god|divine]] powers: for instance, [[Arjuna]] had one thousand arms and was ardently skilled at compressing time, while [[Nakula and Sahadeva]] led armies of imaginary [[hybrid]] animals made of broken time. The [[Great Houses]]' plan for ending the Dvapara Yuga involved starting the [[Kurukshetra war]] between the [[Pandava]]s and [[Kaurava]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Dharmayuddha (short story)|Dharmayuddha]]'') [[River Song]] noted a theory that the [[SporeShip]]s were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Signs (audio story)|Signs]]'')
Before the Time Lords created the Web of Time, the universe obeyed no laws of physics, and [[magic]] was a powerful force. There existed cities with buildings carved from mile-high arches of [[ivory]], with streets made of [[cobweb]] and gardens tended by stone men. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Christmas on a Rational Planet (novel)|Christmas on a Rational Planet]]'') Many [[human]]s had semi-[[god|divine]] powers: for instance, [[Arjuna]] had one thousand arms and was ardently skilled at compressing time, while [[Nakula and Sahadeva]] led armies of imaginary [[hybrid]] animals made of broken time. The [[Great Houses]]' plan for ending the Dvapara Yuga involved starting the [[Kurukshetra war]] between the [[Pandava]]s and [[Kaurava]]s. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Dharmayuddha (short story)|Dharmayuddha]]'') [[River Song]] noted a theory that the [[SporeShip]]s were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[Signs (audio story)|Signs]]'')
[[Luke Smith]] theorised that the rules of [[astrology]] were based on the laws of physics of the previous universe, which is why the [[Ancient Lights]] seemed to conform to them despite them contradicting conventional physics. ([[TV]]: ''[[Secrets of the Stars (TV story)|Secrets of the Stars]]'')


One source indicated that the only thing that existed before the Big Bang was a particle of [[space]] and [[time]] smaller than an [[atom]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Nothing O'Clock (short story)|Nothing O'Clock]]'')
One source indicated that the only thing that existed before the Big Bang was a particle of [[space]] and [[time]] smaller than an [[atom]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Nothing O'Clock (short story)|Nothing O'Clock]]'')
[[Luke Smith]] speculated that the rules of [[astrology]] were based on the laws of physics in the previous universe, which is why the [[Ancient Lights]] seemed to conform to them despite them contradicting conventional physics. ([[TV]]: ''[[Secrets of the Stars (TV story)|Secrets of the Stars]]'')


== Natives ==
== Natives ==
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[[Entropy Siren]]s were said to have existed before the universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Entropy Composition (audio story)|The Entropy Composition]]'')
[[Entropy Siren]]s were said to have existed before the universe. ([[AUDIO]]: ''[[The Entropy Composition (audio story)|The Entropy Composition]]'')
[[Iris Wildthyme]] knew that the [[Time Lord|mysterious people]] of [[the Clockworks]] originated from the previous universe but had crossed the rapids between cosmoses to tend their [[Spiral Politic|Tale Without Meaning]] to the exclusion of everything else. Their [[TARDIS|Wordship]]s each began as single sounds carried over from the pre-universe, amplified and refined, until it became alive and was added to the Tale. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[First Meetings (short story)|First Meetings]]'')


[[The Dark (Fear of the Dark)|The Dark]] was said to have been formed from the remains of the void before the [[Big Bang]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Fear of the Dark (novel)|Fear of the Dark]]'')
[[The Dark (Fear of the Dark)|The Dark]] was said to have been formed from the remains of the void before the [[Big Bang]]. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[Fear of the Dark (novel)|Fear of the Dark]]'')

Revision as of 22:35, 26 March 2018

"Pre-universe" is a title based upon conjecture.

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The pre-universe,[source needed] also called the Dvapara Yuga, was the reality that preceded or was replaced by the start of the universe.

Description

The most common understanding was that the current universe, which began in the Big Bang, was preceded by another universe with different laws of physics. (TV: The Satan Pit, Secrets of the Stars, AUDIO: Persuasion, PROSE: Millennial Rites) The Sixth Doctor learned about the pre-universe from the Matrix during his time as Lord President, and he described it to Anne Travers:

Before this universe was created, there was another one. A totally different universe, with alien physical laws. The heavens were green, and the stars looked like... giant doughnuts, to be brutally frank. Very, very different. And, as in this universe, there were people who discovered the deeper mysteries of time and space.Sixth Doctor [Millennial Rites (novel) [src]]

However, the Seventh Doctor learned from the Carnival Queen that the Time Lords had misinterpreted their knowledge of the pre-universe and, rather than being an actual separate universe, the pre-universe was the state of reality before the Time Lords created the Web of Time (PROSE: Christmas on a Rational Planet) during the anchoring of the thread. (PROSE: The Book of the War)

Before the Time Lords created the Web of Time, the universe obeyed no laws of physics, and magic was a powerful force. There existed cities with buildings carved from mile-high arches of ivory, with streets made of cobweb and gardens tended by stone men. (PROSE: Christmas on a Rational Planet) Many humans had semi-divine powers: for instance, Arjuna had one thousand arms and was ardently skilled at compressing time, while Nakula and Sahadeva led armies of imaginary hybrid animals made of broken time. The Great Houses' plan for ending the Dvapara Yuga involved starting the Kurukshetra war between the Pandavas and Kauravas. (PROSE: Dharmayuddha) River Song noted a theory that the SporeShips were leftover weapons from the war that wiped out the previous universe. (AUDIO: Signs)

Luke Smith theorised that the rules of astrology were based on the laws of physics of the previous universe, which is why the Ancient Lights seemed to conform to them despite them contradicting conventional physics. (TV: Secrets of the Stars)

One source indicated that the only thing that existed before the Big Bang was a particle of space and time smaller than an atom. (PROSE: Nothing O'Clock)

Natives

The Tenth Doctor said that no life could have existed before the universe came into existence. (TV: The Satan Pit) However, many races claimed to be older than the universe itself. (PROSE: All-Consuming Fire, Millennial Rites, Christmas on a Rational Planet, TV: The Satan Pit, AUDIO: Persuasion)

When the new universe was created, many powerful species from the pre-universe fled into other realities but over time found their way back. Some, like the Great Old Ones, still followed the rules of the pre-universe, giving them god-like powers. On many planets, these beings became part of the legends and religions. (PROSE: All-Consuming Fire, Millennial Rites) The Beast was trapped under Krop Tor by the Disciples of Light before light, time, space, or matter existed, and he remained there during and after the creation of the universe. (TV: The Impossible Planet) He claimed to have inspired the Devil of all religions, including the Arkiphets, Quoldonity, Christianity, Pash Pash, New Judaism, San Klah, and the Church of the Tin Vagabond. (TV: The Satan Pit)

The Shepherd and Shepherdess escaped the "extinction of their universe" and arrived in N-Space, where they became transparent in appearance. They moved without touching the ground and their hair and nails grew longer because they were dying in the new reality. (AUDIO: Persuasion)

Luke Smith speculated that the Ancient Lights came from before the universe. (TV: Secrets of the Stars)

Jack Harkness said that the Syriath had been trapped within the Rift since before time. (AUDIO: The House of the Dead)

Entropy Sirens were said to have existed before the universe. (AUDIO: The Entropy Composition)

Iris Wildthyme knew that the mysterious people of the Clockworks originated from the previous universe but had crossed the rapids between cosmoses to tend their Tale Without Meaning to the exclusion of everything else. Their Wordships each began as single sounds carried over from the pre-universe, amplified and refined, until it became alive and was added to the Tale. (PROSE: First Meetings)

The Dark was said to have been formed from the remains of the void before the Big Bang. (PROSE: Fear of the Dark)