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::: You see, there is a bit of a procedural question. It is my understanding (though I have not read the book yet) that the ''Introduction'' of ''Summer Falls'' constitutes a full-on story. If this is so, the precedent would be for covering the ''About the Authors'' section as a brief "foreword" to ''that'' story, rather than a story in its own right. On its own merits, it's not really a story, and though that is a policy which I do not personally condone, [[Tardis:Valid sources|only ''narrative'' sources]] are allowed. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:44, April 13, 2020 (UTC) | ::: You see, there is a bit of a procedural question. It is my understanding (though I have not read the book yet) that the ''Introduction'' of ''Summer Falls'' constitutes a full-on story. If this is so, the precedent would be for covering the ''About the Authors'' section as a brief "foreword" to ''that'' story, rather than a story in its own right. On its own merits, it's not really a story, and though that is a policy which I do not personally condone, [[Tardis:Valid sources|only ''narrative'' sources]] are allowed. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:44, April 13, 2020 (UTC) | ||
:::: Personally, I think anything intended to be in-universe, narrative or not, should be included. Otherwise, where would ''Liberty Hall'' stand? It's a mini-sode, but it's an in-universe interview with the Brigadier. But as that doesn't have a narrative, by the wiki's standards it shouldn't be included, yet it is. | :::: Personally, I think anything intended to be in-universe, narrative or not, should be included. Otherwise, where would ''Liberty Hall'' stand? It's a mini-sode, but it's an in-universe interview with the Brigadier. But as that doesn't have a narrative, by the wiki's standards it shouldn't be included, yet it is. | ||
But even if the afterword in "Summer Falls" is ignored as part of the Whoniverse, it should still be referred as the story Anthony was first mentioned in. Actually, why isn't "P.S" considered valid? I know the BBC weren't anle to film it due to lack of actors, but it not only got made into a video, it had linking narration by Arthur Darvill, and now, since Rory's Story has acknowledged Anthony, shouldn't both P.S. and the afterword from Summer Falls be considered valid? Both now have a valid confirmation to Anthony, so why not include them? | ::::But even if the afterword in "Summer Falls" is ignored as part of the Whoniverse, it should still be referred as the story Anthony was first mentioned in. Actually, why isn't "P.S" considered valid? I know the BBC weren't anle to film it due to lack of actors, but it not only got made into a video, it had linking narration by Arthur Darvill, and now, since Rory's Story has acknowledged Anthony, shouldn't both P.S. and the afterword from Summer Falls be considered valid? Both now have a valid confirmation to Anthony, so why not include them? | ||
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Summer Falls
The foreword for the newly released version of Summer Falls gives a brief bio of Amelia Williams as an author, mentioning that she lives in New York with her husband Rory and her son Anthony. Would this affect whether or not Anthony Williams is considered a canonical part of the DW universe? TARDIStraveler ☎ 17:23, October 4, 2013 (UTC)
- Whatever the case, he's now been mentioned in WC: Rory's Story as well, so this page will need to be reworked to have a focus on the information from valid sources. Danochy ☎ 23:48, April 11, 2020 (UTC)
- I completely agree. I've been trying to get Summer Falls as the story in the 'First Mentioned In:' part of the infobox. I'm not even sure why this warrants a discussion. New Series Adventures are a valid source, and the 'about the author' segment is within the front and back cover, so surely it's on the same level as the rest of the stories within that anthology. Heck, I'd try and get the 'about the author' section it's own wiki entry.
Epsilon the Eternal ☎️ 00:18, April 14, 2020 (BST)
- You see, there is a bit of a procedural question. It is my understanding (though I have not read the book yet) that the Introduction of Summer Falls constitutes a full-on story. If this is so, the precedent would be for covering the About the Authors section as a brief "foreword" to that story, rather than a story in its own right. On its own merits, it's not really a story, and though that is a policy which I do not personally condone, only narrative sources are allowed. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 23:44, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
- Personally, I think anything intended to be in-universe, narrative or not, should be included. Otherwise, where would Liberty Hall stand? It's a mini-sode, but it's an in-universe interview with the Brigadier. But as that doesn't have a narrative, by the wiki's standards it shouldn't be included, yet it is.
- But even if the afterword in "Summer Falls" is ignored as part of the Whoniverse, it should still be referred as the story Anthony was first mentioned in. Actually, why isn't "P.S" considered valid? I know the BBC weren't anle to film it due to lack of actors, but it not only got made into a video, it had linking narration by Arthur Darvill, and now, since Rory's Story has acknowledged Anthony, shouldn't both P.S. and the afterword from Summer Falls be considered valid? Both now have a valid confirmation to Anthony, so why not include them?
- You see, there is a bit of a procedural question. It is my understanding (though I have not read the book yet) that the Introduction of Summer Falls constitutes a full-on story. If this is so, the precedent would be for covering the About the Authors section as a brief "foreword" to that story, rather than a story in its own right. On its own merits, it's not really a story, and though that is a policy which I do not personally condone, only narrative sources are allowed. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 23:44, April 13, 2020 (UTC)
Epsilon the Eternal ☎️ 01:18, April 14, 2020 (BST)
Adopted?
I'd argue that Anthony was very much implied to have been adopted in Rory's Story. Rory described him as "coming home" in a week to "me and your new mum", which sound more like a reference to adoption than a description of birth. Danochy ☎ 00:50, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- Yeah I agree it's heavily implied, but I didn't say so in the main body because he doesn't say so explicitly. Toqgers ☎ 00:57, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
- It was established in Asylum of the Daleks that Amy could no longer bear children due to what happened to her at Demon's Run, so he's definitely not biologically Amy's. I also feel it incredibly unlikely that Amy would be up and about painting rooms so soon after giving birth, or that they wouldn't have simply bought Anthony home from the hospital with them after. WaltK ☎ 01:12, April 12, 2020 (UTC)
