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Going to suggestion/propose changing this title's name from '''Hex''' to '''Thomas Hector Schofield''' (and maintaining a redirect from Hex to...), not saying we should do it immediately, but would like a for/against on this. | Going to suggestion/propose changing this title's name from '''Hex''' to '''Thomas Hector Schofield''' (and maintaining a redirect from Hex to...), not saying we should do it immediately, but would like a for/against on this. | ||
Okay, he is called Hex, but it is established that his name is Schofield...any thoughts? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | Okay, he is called Hex, but it is established that his name is Schofield...any thoughts? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC) | ||
:[[Ace]] is at <nowiki>[[Ace]]</nowiki> so why wouldn't [[Hex]] be at <nowiki>[[Hex]]</nowiki>? :) --[[User:Cartoonmoney|Cartoonmoney]] 12:07, November 15, 2009 (UTC) | |||
::It's been a good many years but I agree that this page should be moved to "Thomas Hector Schofield", just as Melanie Bush isn't at "Mel" and Yasmin Khan isn't at "Yaz". -- [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Saxon]] ([[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|✉️]]) 08:30, May 11, 2020 (UTC) | |||
::: By than logic, Ace should be at Dorothy Gale McShane? Hex is always credited and referred to as Hex apart from in his last 4 appearances in his original run, like Ace is. Yaz is always credited as Yazmin Khan. '''[[User:AdricLovesNyssa|Adric♥Nyssa]]'''∩''[[User_talk:AdricLovesNyssa|Talk?]]'' 16:15, September 12, 2020 (UTC) | |||
:For the record, it is my understanding that we principally call Ace "[[Ace]]" because of [[T:NPOV]] issues. In production documents and [[Target novelisation]]s, she wasn't Dorothy McShane, she was Dorothy ''Gale''; "McShane" is a relatively late retcon. If we wanted to use her legal name we'd have to make an awkward choice between these two competing names. | |||
:Additionally, considering her ''difficult'' relationship with [[Perivale]] and whatnot, the argument is fairly made that Ace basically rejects her birth family — in much the same way that [[the Master]] is not [[Koschei]] and [[the Rani]] is not [[Ushas]]. The way in which she refuses to give her name in ''[[Dragonfire (TV story)|Dragonfire]]'' as anything other than "Ace"; is very reminiscent of the Doctor and other Renegade Time Lords' refusal to give anything but their [[Elective Semantectomy|"the" name]]. | |||
:As concerns Hex… at worst I think we ought to name his page [[Hex Schofield]]. It's clear that "Thomas" is not his most regularly-used first name. But his name is clearly supposed to echo Ace's, so I can see the common-sense argument for keeping him at "Hex". Thoughts, anyone else? [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:35, 21 May 2021 (UTC) | |||
I think this is a good argument, well articulated. So much so, in fact, that I have nothing to really add bar my own agreement. [[User:NightmareofEden|NightmareofEden]] [[User talk:NightmareofEden|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
:Let’s open this debate again, with ''[[The Last Day 1]]'' having released and the crediting being at "Hex Schofield". [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:56, 28 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: I support a move to Hex Schofield. [[User:Jack "BtR" Saxon|Jack "BtR" Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack "BtR" Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC) | |||
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Page title name change[[edit source]]
Going to suggestion/propose changing this title's name from Hex to Thomas Hector Schofield (and maintaining a redirect from Hex to...), not saying we should do it immediately, but would like a for/against on this. Okay, he is called Hex, but it is established that his name is Schofield...any thoughts? --Tangerineduel 15:12, 16 August 2007 (UTC)
- Ace is at [[Ace]] so why wouldn't Hex be at [[Hex]]? :) --Cartoonmoney 12:07, November 15, 2009 (UTC)
- It's been a good many years but I agree that this page should be moved to "Thomas Hector Schofield", just as Melanie Bush isn't at "Mel" and Yasmin Khan isn't at "Yaz". -- Saxon (✉️) 08:30, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
- By than logic, Ace should be at Dorothy Gale McShane? Hex is always credited and referred to as Hex apart from in his last 4 appearances in his original run, like Ace is. Yaz is always credited as Yazmin Khan. Adric♥Nyssa∩Talk? 16:15, September 12, 2020 (UTC)
- It's been a good many years but I agree that this page should be moved to "Thomas Hector Schofield", just as Melanie Bush isn't at "Mel" and Yasmin Khan isn't at "Yaz". -- Saxon (✉️) 08:30, May 11, 2020 (UTC)
- For the record, it is my understanding that we principally call Ace "Ace" because of T:NPOV issues. In production documents and Target novelisations, she wasn't Dorothy McShane, she was Dorothy Gale; "McShane" is a relatively late retcon. If we wanted to use her legal name we'd have to make an awkward choice between these two competing names.
- Additionally, considering her difficult relationship with Perivale and whatnot, the argument is fairly made that Ace basically rejects her birth family — in much the same way that the Master is not Koschei and the Rani is not Ushas. The way in which she refuses to give her name in Dragonfire as anything other than "Ace"; is very reminiscent of the Doctor and other Renegade Time Lords' refusal to give anything but their "the" name.
- As concerns Hex… at worst I think we ought to name his page Hex Schofield. It's clear that "Thomas" is not his most regularly-used first name. But his name is clearly supposed to echo Ace's, so I can see the common-sense argument for keeping him at "Hex". Thoughts, anyone else? Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 11:35, 21 May 2021 (UTC)
I think this is a good argument, well articulated. So much so, in fact, that I have nothing to really add bar my own agreement. NightmareofEden ☎ 22:24, 25 August 2021 (UTC)
- Let’s open this debate again, with The Last Day 1 having released and the crediting being at "Hex Schofield". Danniesen ☎ 09:56, 28 December 2023 (UTC)
- I support a move to Hex Schofield. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 14:40, 31 December 2023 (UTC)
