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::::Good point about the public domain figures, which I hadn't previously considered. If you don't mind, would elaborate on how the "continuities" talk isn't sufficient? [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
::::Good point about the public domain figures, which I hadn't previously considered. If you don't mind, would elaborate on how the "continuities" talk isn't sufficient? [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Ostensibly one could reference or portray events that are exclusively in the original public domain works, suggesting that the original, public domain version of the work, is part of the DWU. If this is done, then talking about continuities seems to be a red herring, as ''any'' adaptation of the public domain works that preserves these original facts would seem to be part of the DWU as well. (I mean, the obvious example is [[Dracula]], right?) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:16, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
:::::Ostensibly one could reference or portray events that are exclusively in the original public domain works, suggesting that the original, public domain version of the work, is part of the DWU. If this is done, then talking about continuities seems to be a red herring, as ''any'' adaptation of the public domain works that preserves these original facts would seem to be part of the DWU as well. (I mean, the obvious example is [[Dracula]], right?) [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:16, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
::::::Not in terms of works that are ''explicitly'' supposed to be alternate continuities, or "alternate timelines", if you prefer. Like the Ninja Turtles; [https://turtlepedia.fandom.com/wiki/Multiverse the different iterations of the Turtles over the years have been frequently shown to be parallel universe versions]. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)

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Introduction

So this is a little project I've been working on for the last two weeks, based on an idea that's been knocking about in my cranium for months, if not longer.

This proposal is for a new section of the timey-wimey detector in which we catalogue every series or franchise that would logically exist in a shared universe with Doctor Who.

You can head on over to my sandbox draft to get the full picture.

The rules I've set out are by no means final, as there are surely other things to consider. I'm still on the fence as to whether we should go ahead and allow unlicensed crossovers (as in, unlicensed DWU cameos in other works, and vice versa). I'm also considering if there is maybe a better way to cover lateral crossovers that are lateral crossovers of multiple other series on the list (the unofficial British soap and serial drama shared universe means that several series would have to be listed twice under EastEnders and Coronation Street respectively).

I look forward to hearing your thoughts! WaltK 22:19, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Discussion

I really like that idea, and it would be lots of fun to do, albeit possibly mildly infeasible the further out you get. No thoughts on ways to implement multiple lateral crossovers, or times when a lateral crossover has Crossovers with other lateral crossovers and/or Doctor Who. Aquanafrahudy 📢 🖊️ 22:33, 5 July 2024 (UTC)

Since this isn't really a timeline (correct me if I'm wrong), could I propose that this not be part of Theory:Timey-wimey detector, but instead constitute a third section on Theory:Index, after Theory:Time-wimey detector and Theory:Discontinuity Index? That way the topic would have a dedicated "Index" page, which can then branch out from there as required. Potentially providing a solution for Aquana's as well. Danochy 06:46, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Not all pages in the TWD are literal timelines. My point of reference for how to format my draft list up there was Theory:Timeline - Omniverse. WaltK 13:20, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Unconvinced that if we'll do this thinking about "crossovers" is the most helpful way to do this. References to events in other works, an implication that that work takes place in the same universe, seems to me to be of the sort of thing this project would care about, but no elements would clearly cross over. (I also think that not enough care is given to how to handle public domain figures, and talk of "continuities" isn't clearly sufficient.) Najawin 17:17, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Good point about the public domain figures, which I hadn't previously considered. If you don't mind, would elaborate on how the "continuities" talk isn't sufficient? WaltK 19:03, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Ostensibly one could reference or portray events that are exclusively in the original public domain works, suggesting that the original, public domain version of the work, is part of the DWU. If this is done, then talking about continuities seems to be a red herring, as any adaptation of the public domain works that preserves these original facts would seem to be part of the DWU as well. (I mean, the obvious example is Dracula, right?) Najawin 19:16, 6 July 2024 (UTC)
Not in terms of works that are explicitly supposed to be alternate continuities, or "alternate timelines", if you prefer. Like the Ninja Turtles; the different iterations of the Turtles over the years have been frequently shown to be parallel universe versions. WaltK 20:26, 6 July 2024 (UTC)