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==Kettlewell==
== Full stops ==
Is Kettlewell actually in ''[[Who Killed Kennedy]]'', or is he just mentioned?----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:50, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
Hey, Gus :) Thanks as always for all your work around here.  Following a review of [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Alien_(film)?diff=1757501&oldid=1750573 a recent edit of yours] I did just want to draw your attention to [[T:PERIODS AND QUOTES]]. It's an obscure little rule, but it's one of those things that we want to try to be consistent about.  Please remember that if you're quoting a sentence fragment at the end of a sentence, the punctuation typically appears '''outside''' the inverted commas, as in:
:'''The Doctor said that he was "concerned about the past".'''
You only put the punctuation ''within'' the quotation marks when the quotation is a '''full sentence''' (i.e., a subject and verb), and therefore the punctuation applies to the quotation.


Thanks for clearing that up.----[[User:Skittles the hog|Skittles the hog]]--<small>[[User talk:Skittles the hog|Talk]]</small> 19:54, March 10, 2011 (UTC)
There's a nominal split on this notion between American and non-American usage, with some American style guides, like the APA, giving the go ahead to the changes you made in the edit I cited above. However, remember that we side with British English around here, and therefore [[T:PERIODS AND QUOTES]] stresses British style.


{{please see|Is The Curse of Fatal Death canon?}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''20:12:24 Fri&nbsp;'''11 Mar 2011&nbsp;</span>
Again, thanks for all your edits! :)  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 04:46: Wed 15 Oct 2014</span>


{{Please see|Character information on novels, etc}} [[User:Mini-mitch|Mini-mitch]]\[[User talk:Mini-mitch|talk]] 17:19, March 15, 2011 (UTC)
== "Et al." ==


{{Please see|Alienation of new and IP users}} [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 20:33, August 9, 2011 (UTC)
Hello, GusF! Can I ask you why you are removing every "et al." or "onwards" from the references, as in ''[[Engines of War (novel)|Engines of War]]''? Not only I've (we've) always used those notes, but I find them very useful to convey when a reference is to a single story (that is, "this is the first mention to this past reference") or a series of stories ("this is just the latest one"). Is there a new guideline? Thank you :) [[User:HarveyWallbanger|HarveyWallbanger]] [[User talk:HarveyWallbanger|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:31, October 15, 2014 (UTC)


== Historical features and events ==
== People encountered ==
Hello Gus. I was just wondering what your approach is to the [[:Category:Real world people encountered by the Doctor|Real world people encountered by the Doctor]] category. It has a number of issues, such as the syntax of the category name, and the definition of the word 'encountered' used therein.


Heya Gus :)  Thanks for your recent help in updating pages that have to do with historical events and people.  However, I must ask you to '''please''' be careful about pulling information from real world history.  I note, for instance, that you've recently added birth and death dates to [[Richard I of England]].  These dates cannot be supported by the episode (or novelisation) in question.  You should ''only'' add information which is explicit (or easily calcuable) from info '''actually given in a story'''. Take a look, for example, at [[Marco Polo]] for a clear example of why we should use dates given in stories rather than real world historical info. Thanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''01:13:33 Sat&nbsp;'''13 Aug 2011&nbsp;</span>
As you can see from [[:Category talk:Real world people encountered by the Doctor|the talk page]], it's quite a contentious topic. Just to save yourself a lot of work, you might want to wait for a conclusion to be drawn before you categorise all the necessary pages. Regards, {{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 20:28, October 21, 2014 (UTC)


:I, Davros and ''Genesis of the Daleks'' date.
== Re: Editing competition ==
:I'm a bit puzzled where you're getting 15th century from? There doesn't appear to be anything noted on the story pages to indicate they should be in this category. So, I'm just curious as to where this date has come from? --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:17, August 13, 2011 (UTC)


== Unbroadcast stories ==
Don't know, but I'll ask [[User:CzechOut]], since it's his project. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:31, November 18, 2014 (UTC)
:Hey Gus :) Thanks for all your hard work editing these past few weeks.  It's very much appreciated.  I just wanted to drop by and say that the second contest was originally going to be funded directly by me, but thanks to some behind-the-scenes jiggery-pokery, Wikia are actually going to help a bit with prizes, and there'll be one for residents of the British Isles and one for the rest of the world. However, I'm going to have to activate the "rules subject to change" clause and push back the deadline to the end of the quarter, because the prizes are in fact pretty good.  I'll be changing the front page this week to reflect that. I wouldn't worry too much about this if I were you; you've banked a lot of points. :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 15:14: Tue 18 Nov 2014</span>


Hey there, sorry to bother you for a kind of trivial thing. The [[Tardis:Spoiler Policy]] states that we should not add information from a story that has not yet been broadcast so your recent addition of the Curse of Davros to Davros' appearances, however innocent the edit breaches that policy. On another note, your edits to Big Finish related articles recently has been superb, keep up the good work! --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 21:52, August 15, 2011 (UTC)
== 2029 ==


I too have been having a Big Finish marathon, I've just finished this years sixth Doctor trilogy and I'm starting Heroes of Sontar today, Big Finish rules! --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 08:48, August 16, 2011 (UTC)
[[2029]] is now unlocked. Feel free to create it. '''[[User:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#002B7F">P&amp;P</span>]] [[User_talk:PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#FCD116;font-size:0.6em">talk</span>]] [[Special:Contributions/PicassoAndPringles|<span style="color:#CE1126;font-size:0.6em">contribs</span>]]''' 20:36, December 9, 2015 (UTC)


{{Please see|A second look at wiki achivements}} {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}'''17:06:33 Mon&nbsp;'''22 Aug 2011&nbsp;</span>
== Chequers vs. checkers ==


== Prefixes  ==
Hi, thanks for collaborating on [[Heinz (The Silver Turk)]]. One thing I'll have to change back though. I was also surprised by it, to be honest. The British spelling of "checkers" is "chequers" (see [https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_and_British_English_spelling_differences#Miscellaneous_spelling_differences] and [http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/chequer]). Since this Wikia (unlike me) uses British English, it seems we have to use "chequers." What is strange for me is that it appears that there is a special British name for the game---"draughts." I have no idea why they did not use that one. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:17, December 14, 2015 (UTC)


Hey, just thought you might want to know that prefixes aren't actually necessary when your not sourcing. In most cases they actually have a negative effect as they break up sentences.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 20:35, September 5, 2011 (UTC)
== Mary's Story edit ==


== Human Time Travellers ==
Just in case you misunderstood my action as deleting your newest edit. I saw your update from 2013 to 2015 and realized that this note had been misplaced originally. It is the whole anthology that acknowledges all three continuities. Thus, I moved the note to [[The Company of Friends (audio anthology)]] page with minimal modifications. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:34, December 21, 2015 (UTC)


I've noticed you've been adding a lot of pages to the category "Human Time Travellers" that are already under "Human Companions". "Human Companions" is a sub-category of "Human Time Travellers", so you don't need to add pages to "Human Time Travellers" if they're already under "Human Companions".
== Dating for "The Witch from the Well" ==
[[User:Aliyoda|Aliyoda]] 17:58, September 9, 2011 (UTC)


==Alternative individuals==
Hi, it seems that you added some exact dates to the events of the story. I've started a discussion of them on the [[Talk:The Witch from the Well (audio story)|story's talk page]]. But in case you're not receiving updates on that, let me additionally ping you here. Do you by any chance remember where these dates came from? 'Cos I can't find them in the story. Thanks in advance. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:39, May 26, 2016 (UTC)
Hey, this is a good idea for a category, but seeing as it encompasses many thing it would have been a good idea to raise it at the [[Forum:Panopticon|forums]] first. Do you think you could start a post on it, asking for a consensus on the idea? In the meantime, please remove all the non-canonical individuals (e.g [[Eleventh Doctor (The Curse of Fatal Death)]]) from the category. Thanks--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 16:13, September 17, 2011 (UTC)


==Don't add the same category multiple times==
== Dating for "Image of the Fendahl" ==
Each unique category should only be on a single page once. I can quite appreciate that you're enthusiastic to play the [[Game of Rassilon]], but please make sure your edits are actually meaninguful.  Placing [[:category:Stories released in 1973]] ''twice'' on ''[[The Amateur]]'' does not constitute a meaningful edit.  In fact, it's a tiny bit destructive.  It makes it slightly harder to use the bot, as the bot expects only one instance of each unique category. This is ''espcieally'' true of categories that are added by template.  ''Never'' add a category to a page which is automatically added by template. To give an example from the Third Doctor comic stories editing track, ''never'' directly place [[:category:stories with unknown or disputed Doctors]] on a page; the template will take care of it for you.  Putting it once directly on the page and then again with the template totally confuses bot operations.
Hi GusF! Back in November 2012 you made a few edits saying that ''Curse of the Fendahl'' took place in July 1977. The "1977" part is fine, that much is said in ''Taking of Planet 5'', but I can't seem to find any source for the "July" bit. Would you be able to cast your mind back half a decade and remember if there's a calendar seen in one of the episodes or if the novelisation says it's July? [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]]   [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 17:11, March 12, 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks, I'll search for that calendar when I get around to doing [[1977]], but for now I'll just leave things as they are. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]]  [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 20:52, March 12, 2017 (UTC)


If you have been placing other multiple instances of categories on pages, I'd ask you to remove your duplicates now.  And in so doing, I've just authorised you to take more easy points in the Game of Rassilon!  Is that a deal or what? You get a scolding, and yet you get easy points out of the deal. Can't ask for better than that!  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}00:10: Sat&nbsp;24 Sep 2011&nbsp;</span>
== Elisabeth II? ==
:Oh i wasn't accusing you of cheating.  God no; you've been making a heck of a lot of great edits lately!  Just advising you of an obscure but sorta important point having to do with wiki maintenance.  As for whether you actually added the category twice, well, you at least added the ''second instance''.  The 73 cat was already on the page when you added the 73 and 74 cats.  But on to more substantive matters.  Beyond the technicalities of category placement, my real question is when was it released as a Fourth Doctor story?  I can't quite remember off the top of my head.  Was that in 74 as well, or maybe in 75/76?  Cause I suppose that category should go in there too.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}00:58: Sat&nbsp;24 Sep 2011&nbsp;</span>


{{Please see|Page Creation time}} [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 22:24, October 1, 2011 (UTC)
Why her? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:44, May 7, 2017 (UTC)


==Top man==
: More likely - yes. Established in the story - no. Sorry, without explicit confirmation or a very extensive research into the gap between [[Victoria]] and [[Elizabeth II]], I am changing it back. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me"></span>]] 19:54, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
Congratulations on being top of the leaderboard. How much time do you spend editing?
{{Please see|Can we disable visual editor please?}} <br> {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}16:41: Tue&nbsp;20 Dec 2011&nbsp;</span>


== Just to note ==
:: Funny thing: I actually appear to be arguing with myself by proxy. :) I've added the link to the queen Elizabeth II myself. So it's not your speculation. It was my speculation. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:06, May 7, 2017 (UTC)


Just to note; please do not adding the full setting into the infobox for stories, i.e. [[Cardiff]], [[Wales]], [[UK]], [[Earth]], [[2006]]. All we need is the exact location - in this case, Cardiff as well as the year.
::: Sure. By the way, since dating Tanya's aunt is completely impossible, the only way to resolve it is to find in-universe confirmation on the date of the creation of Zuma. Not likely, but not impossible either. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:12, May 7, 2017 (UTC)


To anyone who is new and who may not understand how the infobox is laid out - they might think that the episode takes place in all these locations - not just in [[Cardiff]].
== ''The Lost'' ==


Putting anything beyond where an story is set - the [[Earth]], [[UK]] bit can be blown out of proportion by someone who adds [[Europe]], [[Sol System]], [[Mutter's Spiral]] etc - other wise known as 'added on dribble'. The only needs to have the exact place and date - a few exemption would be other planets.
Yeah, we lost that one. Thanks. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:51, May 12, 2017 (UTC)


Speaking of date - there is also no need to add the month and date or era unless it is specific and plot essential to the story - in case of the stories set on [[Gallifrey]], there is not need to say that the part of the episode that takes place on Gallifrey takes place in the Rassilon Era when it is unessential information.
==Categories==
Thanks for spotting that there. For some reason my brower wasn't playing when I tried adding them. --[[User:Revanvolatrelundar|Revan]]\[[User_talk:Revanvolatrelundar|Talk]] 21:39, May 31, 2017 (UTC)


The only time a date should be added to the location is when it is essential to the story - i.e. [[The Impossible Astronaut]] and [[The Wedding of River Song]]. Thanks. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 20:21, January 11, 2012 (UTC)
== Request for opinion on thread ==
Hey GusF, it would appear from your edit history that you've heard ''Ringpullworld'' and ''Find and Replace'', as such I would be very interested in hearing your opinion over at [[Thread:206638]]. Best wishes, [[User:TheChampionOfTime|<span style="font-family:Old English Text MT">CoT</span>]]   [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">?</span> ]] 17:29, July 13, 2017 (UTC)


===Stop===
== Archduke Franz Ferdinand assassination date ==
Stop adding [[UK]], [[Earth]] to every story that is set on Earth - you only need the location on Earth. Continue to ignore this and you will be blocked for a short period of time. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 20:37, January 11, 2012 (UTC)


{{please see|What makes an ally and an enemy?}} [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 21:34, February 1, 2012 (UTC)
Hi, sorry to bother you. I was banging my head trying to find a DWU source for the exact date of Franz Ferdinand assassination. I noticed that long time ago you [[Special:Diff/1247341|added]] it to the page of [[28 June]]. Do you by any chance remember if it was based on a primary source or just a secondary wiki source. I checked all the three stories stated as sources and none of them mentions the 28th, unless I am missing something. Thank you in advance for your time. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:59, October 6, 2017 (UTC)


== Categories ==
: Thanks for the quick response. I was secretly hoping you'd pull the date from somewhere and put the matter to rest. I'll continue digging. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:50, October 6, 2017 (UTC)


Please do not add categories to actors page when they have not appeared in that franchise yet. This includes adding things like Mark Williams to the category 'Doctor Who guest actors', Noel Clarke to the category 'actor who appeared in the Star Trek franchise' since they have not appeared yet. Once Mark William's episodes airs, then we can add the category and once Star Trek 2 comes out, we can add Noel to the category. This is all part of our [[T:SPOIL|Spoiler policy]].
== Unsubstantiated accusations ==


Apart form that, keep up the great work! Thanks [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 10:50, March 9, 2012 (UTC)
Hi, it is an unpleasant situation, and I regret that your proactive behaviour resulted in these recriminations instead of praise. I hope you understand that, as admins, we are obliged to investigate every report of potential wrongdoing. Let me, however, assure you that these investigations are performed under the standard presumption of innocence doctrine. Thus, until evidence is presented, you remain blameless in the incident. I have a lingering suspicion that, as often happens, this might be a result of a misunderstanding. For instance, your edit that was correct in one setting could be mis-extrapolated to another situation, where a similar edit became wrong. Once again, I understand it's unpleasant to be blamed. But, as you can see, two admins are actively involved in the case. Just let things run their course. At this point, the ball is not in your court. You can safely continue editing the way you prefer. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:51, November 2, 2017 (UTC)


== Infoboxes  ==
== Unsubstantiated accusations still unsubstantiated ==


Please can you undo all you edits to the infoboxes which state 'introduction, joins, departs etc'. It has been decided that these will be removed from the infobox, since a forum discussion. Apart from that, keep up the good work! Thanks. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 20:01, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
I clarify that you are not and have not been under any investigation regarding this matter. As I wrote all that time ago, "it will be investigated ''as soon as you [Xx-connor-xX] provide exact information'' on when and where this occurred." I was being quite literal about it. No evidence has ever been provided of a wrongdoing. Thus, no investigation was ever initiated.  


: It's fine, it was just a small discussion with myself and a few others. It includes everything, cameo, regenerates, dies, departs, flashback etc. You are welcome. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 20:13, April 1, 2012 (UTC)
In fact, the response of [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] to that request of mine for such evidence made it clear that he did not have it. He then proceeded to accuse the admin of forcing him into this unsubstantiated accusation, much the same way as he had earlier blamed you for his mistakes. For me, this matter has been closed then and there. I regret if you felt under any shadow of suspicion all this time. I assure you that you were not.


http://www.kasterborous.com/2012/04/the-doctor-and-amy-face-classic-daleks/
As a matter of course admin must investigate reasonable and justified complaints but equally as a matter of course we ignore baseless accusations. Apologies for not stating this clearer. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:13, January 3, 2018 (UTC)
Guess what? CLASSIC DALEKS RETURNING TO DOCTOR WHO!!!!


-Hill Nothing fan
== Goth ==
Hi, some long time ago in [[Forum:Is Bernard Horsfall playing the same character in The War Games and The Deadly Assassin?|forums far away]], you thought that there was some canonical evidence for Goth and Gulliver being the same character. Do you still think so? If so, could you provide your arguments at [[Talk:Goth]] please? I currently do not see this connection and tried to explain there why. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:10, May 27, 2018 (UTC)


== Your recent MA edits ==
: Thanks for the quick reply. Good to know we agree. I often think of this style of writing as attempting to both please fans by playing to their head canons and simultaneously not to spoil any continuity other writers might want to stipulate. [[The Woman (The End of Time)]] is a prime example. Having said that, I found another source, ''[[War Crimes (short story)|War Crimes]]''. I'll post the relevant information on the Goth talk page. Plus I need to recall some terminology from ''[[The War Games (TV story)|The War Games]]''. That may or may not give something new. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:41, May 27, 2018 (UTC)
Hey, please don't wikify headings. I know people do it, but [[Tardis:Manual of Style#Other matters|our manual of style clearly says to avoid it]]. Moreover, there's no need to manually add [[disambiguation term]]s to story titles. There's no particular plan to, for instance, delete the redirect at ''[[The Romance of Crime]]'', so you're kinda just wasting your time to change the link to ''[[The Romance of Crime (novel)]]''. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}00:23: Fri&nbsp;06 Apr 2012&nbsp;</span>


==Continuity==
== 1966 World Cup ==
Hey, I've just been editing through various MAs (I know some edits are from early this year). But you seem to have jumped the gun information wise in the continuity sections. Adding a lot (too much) information. The continuity section is to show a link between that story and another story, not every instance of a link. For instance [http://tardis.wikia.com/index.php?title=The_Plotters_%28novel%29&action=historysubmit&diff=871319&oldid=863904 this edit], the fact that Barbra mentions the Great Fire should be in references (she referring to the event) it's not a direct link out to a specific story. It's certainly way too much info to mention the First Doctor's trip around Andromeda. At first reading it I couldn't even work out how it was relevant to ''The Plotters''. Other stuff like "The First Doctor and Vicki would meet James I for a second time in [[1609]], though Vicki failed to recognise him on that occasion in [[PROSE]]: ''[[The Empire of Glass (novel)|The Empire of Glass]]''." Just leave it there, it doesn't need to go further and mention Polly's meeting with King Charles and James II again I wasn't sure of the link aside from royalty between the two stories.
I moved the content to a separate page on the [[1966 World Cup Final]] where it is more relevant. The [[1966 World Cup]] is a page on the whole tournament; as the majority of information was related to the final, it seemed more relevant on its own page. I can easily put it back if you want. [[User:66 Seconds|66 Seconds]] [[User talk:66 Seconds|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:16, August 16, 2018 (UTC)
:No problem at all. I've added a disambiguation on both pages for the sake of other users. [[User:66 Seconds|66 Seconds]] [[User talk:66 Seconds|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:24, August 16, 2018 (UTC)


Detailed long form information like this is much better suited to the characters' articles or other articles. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 10:06, June 19, 2012 (UTC)
== Fairy Godfather and other pantos ==


==Admin request==
Hi, sorry to bother you about several edits you made on October 24, 2014. Yes, I know, a long time ago. I'm trying to understand the sources of the additional roles in the cast list for ''[[Oh No It Isn't! (audio story)|Oh No It Isn't!]]'', specifically The [[Fairy Godfather]], Computer, and The [[Grel]]. All three were added by you. But, interestingly, not in one edit. What is the source for each of the three? Thanks in advance. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:04, September 16, 2018 (UTC)
Hey. Check out [[Tardis:How do I become an admin?]], as reading through your submission I'm still somewhat fuzzy on ''why'' you want to be an admin. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 11:59, July 30, 2012 (UTC)
:Thanks for adding to your admin request, although by re-editing your request rather than just adding to it underneath I did have to look through the page's history to work out what was changed.
:During discussions we don't really take into account admin status, everyone's views are weighed equally. Two notable examples are [[User:CzechOut|CzechOut]], who for a very long time wasn't an admin. But he engaged in discussions on the forums, user talk pages, talk pages and had edited heavily. [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] is another user who edits heavily and engages in discussion, but isn't an admin and I value his input as highly as other admins. In fact I value anyone's input in discussions equally, admin status doesn't really enter into who I'm willing to listen to, the same I think can be said for the other admins.
:You can see across many of the discussions on the forums that relate to policy that many of the people who weren't admins (or weren't admins at the time of the discussion) have participated in the discussion.
:I noted when having a quick look at your contributions that you've not participated in many discussions in the forums. Is there a reason?
:You can leave any responses to this on my talk page, rather than on the rights request page, I'm asking these questions here on your talk page, rather than there. I usually reserve posting there for final notes. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 14:11, July 30, 2012 (UTC)


::Could you give me an example of a large body of text you've contributed it can be in-universe, a real world page or an addition to a story page of significant text like the plot.
== Dating for the Dalek Empire series. ==
::Also which articles show case your skills and knowledge, and which articles are you most proud of?
::I really encourage you to engage in discussion, differing points of view are what the discussion's for. Even admins don't agree a lot of the time (CzechOut and I for example have disagreed, argued and compromised on several topics).
::Also, just something to note. When adding info to the references section it's helpful to break them into sub-headings based on category. Here's ''[[Invasion of the Daleks (audio story)]]'' where I've done this for the info you've added. Or take a look at any of the [[Virgin Missing Adventures]] or [[Virgin New Adventures]] articles which have also been formatted like this. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:16, July 30, 2012 (UTC)


:::I just wanted to drop you a message RE your admin request.
Hi, I know it ''was'' seven years ago, but going back through the history of edits in the [[Dalek Empire (audio series)|Dalek Empire]] series, I've noticed you were the one adding the years to the story infobox settings. Having listened to all 4 audio series I haven't found any such references, so I can only assume it was from one or more of the [[Short Trips: Dalek Empire]] stories. Is this true? If so, would it be possible for you to send me the relevant quotes as evidence, so I can add them to the page notes, and also to [[Theory:Timeline - Doctor Who universe]]? Thanks a bunch [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:53, April 5, 2019 (UTC)
:::I knocked back practically all the current admins; Mini-mitch, Skittles the Hog and Revanvolatrelundar on their first request.
:::Also I didn't intend to put you off wanting to be an admin, just give it some time that's all.
:::I hope this experience hasn't completely put you off wanting to continue to edit on this site and I hope that when you feel you're ready you request adminship again. You can always drop a question onto my or any other active admin's talk page regarding it, prior to adding your name to the admin nomination. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 15:34, August 5, 2012 (UTC)


== Pics ==
: Thanks! [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:48, April 6, 2019 (UTC)
Unfortunately, I had to remove both your pics at [[Ian Gilmore]].  Please review [[T:IUP]], [[T:ICC]] and [[T:GTI]] for more guidance about our standards.


Of particular note:
: Hey, any luck with finding a source? Thanks, [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:00, June 2, 2019 (UTC)
*Promotional images cannot be used to illustrate in-universe articles
*Minimum natural aspect ratio is 4:3, but infobox pics should be ''cropped'' to 16:9 dimensions (widescreen) if possible — and a widescreen of Gilmore is certainly possible
*Your pic of Ian and Rachel had odd width compression, making the figures obviously too "tall and thin". For classic series images, keep the base aspect ratio 4:3 but attempt to ''crop'' to 16:9.  You appear to have somehow "scrunched" the base/natural aspect ratio to 3:4, thus making the subject matter unnaturally thin.


{{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}15:42: Mon&nbsp;06 Aug 2012&nbsp;</span>
:: Hey, just letting you know that [[User:Shambala108]] has found that the source of the setting on this page here http://www.tetrap.com/drwho/disccon/8/time.html#boxitem, which, being an invalid source, means I'll remove the settings from the in-universe pages. Thanks, [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:55, July 9, 2019 (UTC)


== X century individuals  ==
== For(u)m Letter ==
Please do not assume that the 'X century individuals' is to do with age. It does not (unless we find out thier year of birth), it is basically what era they were active in (in other words what century we see them in (recorded adventure). So [[Toby Silverman]] would only go into 21st century individuals since that is the only era we see him in. Unlike Sarah Jane, who we saw active in the 20th/21st century as well as Owen Harper, who we only saw in the 21st century but we find out he was active in the 20th century (we learn his year of birth). Thanks. [[User:Mini-mitch|MM]]/<small>[[User talk:Mini-mitch|Want to talk?]]</small> 20:06, August 7, 2012 (UTC)


== Adding Other Languages ==
Hey there, I hope your Halloween was decent. As you might know, we've not had forums for over two years at this point. A few of the regular editors have been having a discussion on this topic at [[Forum talk:Index]] and we'd like the input of other prominent editors if you have the inclination. Cheers. [[User:Najawin|Najawin]] [[User talk:Najawin|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)
I'd like to write articles in Welsh (Cymraeg) if it is possible, but I don't know how to add the other language. Being a small language, Welsh might not exist already. Any help will be appreciated.


== Redirects are okay ==
== Merry Christmas and happy new year. ==
I've noticed that you've been systematically changing, say, [[Planet of Giants]] to [[Planet of Giants (TV story)]].  This isn't necessary.  When the move to auto-disambiguated names was made, a part of the consensus agreement was that the un-disambiguated name would remain as a redirect.  It is thus equally "correct" to link to [[Planet of Giants]] and [[Planet of Giants (TV story)]].


The only time we get rid of undisambiguated redirects to the dabbed title is when there's an in-universe thing of the same name.  So, [[Castrovalva]] will always mean the city, not the story, and [[The Five Doctors]] will always mean the in-universe video game, not the story.
I Know the year's not done yet, though in my timezone, Christmas Day is here and the new year is close. Happy new year and enjoy your Christmas. [[User:Sum41Champ]]
 
If there ever becomes a need to get rid of a redirect, a bot will fix all references on the wiki much faster than you or I could do manually.  In the meantime, please fix ''only'' the truly ''incorrect'' links.  So if you come across a [[Paradise Towers]] when the editor meant [[Paradise Towers (TV story)]], feel free to change that.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}}22:29: Wed&nbsp;08 Aug 2012&nbsp;</span>
 
== Federation universe ==
 
I don't think we should assume that the planets and species introduced in the crossover, like [[Aprilia III]] or the [[Dai-ai]] exist only in the Federation universe. Given that the reality that the comic takes place in is a result of the two universes being joined together, these planets and species might actually exist only in DWU or (more likely) in both universes.
 
==Unknown dates==
Hey, do you think adding the "unknown dates" makes the articles more accurate to read? I've generally considered that an intro, any intro is good for an article, and the date articles, especially the year and month articles with information that's vaguely placed is perfect for an intro because it's vaguely dated yet interesting. But placing things under "unknown dates" as a subheading of events is sometimes inaccurate. Often it's not an "event", and stating it's an "unknown date" doesn't give any more information than just leaving it as an intro or a lead in paragraph. Just curious on your thinking behind these placements. Thanks. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 16:03, September 21, 2012 (UTC)
 
== Pages about years, decades, centuries ==
As explained at [[T:LEADS]], all articles — even those about years, decades and centuries — require a lead.  That lead should [[T:BOLD TEXT|embolden]] the page name  and summarise the most important in-universe facts about a particular year
 
Your recent editing pattern on pages like [[2573]] has run precisely opposite to that mandate.  Yes, I know that there are a lot of older year pages where you'll find no lead an just a wall of subsection heads, but '''these pages are incorrect'''.  Please bear in mind that all pages need leads, and that articles should be written in "plain English".  Where possible, sections and "bullet-point English" are to be strictly avoided.  Certainly, if there's only one fact on a year page, it should just be written as a simple sentence.  Thanks :) {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:33: Fri 21 Sep 2012</span>
:Because I've just reverted most of your work for today, I wanted stop back by. It's unusual for the administrative staff to so quickly tamp down on an editor's work.  Thing is, [[user:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] and I have been trying to impress upon editors the fact that year pages are ''real'' articles.  They aren't just places that contain a list of events.  You would never just bullet point your way through [[Rose Tyler]] or [[Eleventh Doctor]], so there's no justification for doing so at a year page.  I hope this mass deletion of your work doesn't dampen your enthusiasm for working on year pages.  We need a lot of help there, but we need it to be going '''according to our policies and style guides''' — not away from it. I've rewritten a few of the pages you touched today in order to give you an idea of the kind of format we're seeking:
:*[[2593]], an example of the slightly longer article
:*[[2594]], an example of a short article, with a mix of information tied to a specific date, and stuff that happened ''generally'' that year
:*[[2596]], multiple facts, all occurring at non-specific dates
 
:Note that historic years — what we might call "real" years — ''can'' have bulletised  sections.  But they still need leads.
:*A good example of this kind of article, properly written is [[2000]]. 
:*An example of this kind of article '''improperly''' written is [[2006]]. All that stuff that's at 6 March 2006 should ''easily'' be the lead of the article, because that's obviously the most important in-universe 2006 fact. 
 
:Hope that helps.  And please don't think you're the only one who's having their work destroyed this week.  The prefix system was largely of my construction, so its destruction means that hours and hours of my own work has been flushed down the toilet.  It's simply a truism of wiki-editing that sometimes your stuff gets hacked. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:47: Fri 21 Sep 2012</span>
::By the way, you mentioned Wikipedia year articles as your model for working here.  That's fine — but look at those articles.  [[wikipedia:2000]] '''has a  four paragraph lead'''.  If year articles here looked like that, I'd be happy.  But people forget to write the leads.
 
::And don't forget, too, that because Wikipedia is a ''general'' encyclopedia, a ''lot'' of things happened in, say, [[wikipedia:1857]].  Not so much happened in the DWU in [[1857]].  Thus we don't have the ''need'' for a big structure.  Once you write the lead with the one or two facts that happened, the article is done.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:54: Fri 21 Sep 2012</span>

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Full stops[[edit source]]

Hey, Gus :) Thanks as always for all your work around here. Following a review of a recent edit of yours I did just want to draw your attention to T:PERIODS AND QUOTES. It's an obscure little rule, but it's one of those things that we want to try to be consistent about. Please remember that if you're quoting a sentence fragment at the end of a sentence, the punctuation typically appears outside the inverted commas, as in:

The Doctor said that he was "concerned about the past".

You only put the punctuation within the quotation marks when the quotation is a full sentence (i.e., a subject and verb), and therefore the punctuation applies to the quotation.

There's a nominal split on this notion between American and non-American usage, with some American style guides, like the APA, giving the go ahead to the changes you made in the edit I cited above. However, remember that we side with British English around here, and therefore T:PERIODS AND QUOTES stresses British style.

Again, thanks for all your edits! :)
czechout<staff />    04:46: Wed 15 Oct 2014

"Et al."[[edit source]]

Hello, GusF! Can I ask you why you are removing every "et al." or "onwards" from the references, as in Engines of War? Not only I've (we've) always used those notes, but I find them very useful to convey when a reference is to a single story (that is, "this is the first mention to this past reference") or a series of stories ("this is just the latest one"). Is there a new guideline? Thank you :) HarveyWallbanger 21:31, October 15, 2014 (UTC)

People encountered[[edit source]]

Hello Gus. I was just wondering what your approach is to the Real world people encountered by the Doctor category. It has a number of issues, such as the syntax of the category name, and the definition of the word 'encountered' used therein.

As you can see from the talk page, it's quite a contentious topic. Just to save yourself a lot of work, you might want to wait for a conclusion to be drawn before you categorise all the necessary pages. Regards, Skittles the hog - talk 20:28, October 21, 2014 (UTC)

Re: Editing competition[[edit source]]

Don't know, but I'll ask User:CzechOut, since it's his project. Shambala108 03:31, November 18, 2014 (UTC)

Hey Gus :) Thanks for all your hard work editing these past few weeks. It's very much appreciated. I just wanted to drop by and say that the second contest was originally going to be funded directly by me, but thanks to some behind-the-scenes jiggery-pokery, Wikia are actually going to help a bit with prizes, and there'll be one for residents of the British Isles and one for the rest of the world. However, I'm going to have to activate the "rules subject to change" clause and push back the deadline to the end of the quarter, because the prizes are in fact pretty good. I'll be changing the front page this week to reflect that. I wouldn't worry too much about this if I were you; you've banked a lot of points. :)
czechout<staff />    15:14: Tue 18 Nov 2014

2029[[edit source]]

2029 is now unlocked. Feel free to create it. P&P talk contribs 20:36, December 9, 2015 (UTC)

Chequers vs. checkers[[edit source]]

Hi, thanks for collaborating on Heinz (The Silver Turk). One thing I'll have to change back though. I was also surprised by it, to be honest. The British spelling of "checkers" is "chequers" (see [1] and [2]). Since this Wikia (unlike me) uses British English, it seems we have to use "chequers." What is strange for me is that it appears that there is a special British name for the game---"draughts." I have no idea why they did not use that one. Amorkuz 23:17, December 14, 2015 (UTC)

Mary's Story edit[[edit source]]

Just in case you misunderstood my action as deleting your newest edit. I saw your update from 2013 to 2015 and realized that this note had been misplaced originally. It is the whole anthology that acknowledges all three continuities. Thus, I moved the note to The Company of Friends (audio anthology) page with minimal modifications. Amorkuz 22:34, December 21, 2015 (UTC)

Dating for "The Witch from the Well"[[edit source]]

Hi, it seems that you added some exact dates to the events of the story. I've started a discussion of them on the story's talk page. But in case you're not receiving updates on that, let me additionally ping you here. Do you by any chance remember where these dates came from? 'Cos I can't find them in the story. Thanks in advance. Amorkuz 23:39, May 26, 2016 (UTC)

Dating for "Image of the Fendahl"[[edit source]]

Hi GusF! Back in November 2012 you made a few edits saying that Curse of the Fendahl took place in July 1977. The "1977" part is fine, that much is said in Taking of Planet 5, but I can't seem to find any source for the "July" bit. Would you be able to cast your mind back half a decade and remember if there's a calendar seen in one of the episodes or if the novelisation says it's July? CoT ? 17:11, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks, I'll search for that calendar when I get around to doing 1977, but for now I'll just leave things as they are. CoT ? 20:52, March 12, 2017 (UTC)

Elisabeth II?[[edit source]]

Why her? Amorkuz 19:44, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

More likely - yes. Established in the story - no. Sorry, without explicit confirmation or a very extensive research into the gap between Victoria and Elizabeth II, I am changing it back. Amorkuz 19:54, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
Funny thing: I actually appear to be arguing with myself by proxy. :) I've added the link to the queen Elizabeth II myself. So it's not your speculation. It was my speculation. Amorkuz 20:06, May 7, 2017 (UTC)
Sure. By the way, since dating Tanya's aunt is completely impossible, the only way to resolve it is to find in-universe confirmation on the date of the creation of Zuma. Not likely, but not impossible either. Amorkuz 20:12, May 7, 2017 (UTC)

The Lost[[edit source]]

Yeah, we lost that one. Thanks. Amorkuz 14:51, May 12, 2017 (UTC)

Categories[[edit source]]

Thanks for spotting that there. For some reason my brower wasn't playing when I tried adding them. --Revan\Talk 21:39, May 31, 2017 (UTC)

Request for opinion on thread[[edit source]]

Hey GusF, it would appear from your edit history that you've heard Ringpullworld and Find and Replace, as such I would be very interested in hearing your opinion over at Thread:206638. Best wishes, CoT ? 17:29, July 13, 2017 (UTC)

Archduke Franz Ferdinand assassination date[[edit source]]

Hi, sorry to bother you. I was banging my head trying to find a DWU source for the exact date of Franz Ferdinand assassination. I noticed that long time ago you added it to the page of 28 June. Do you by any chance remember if it was based on a primary source or just a secondary wiki source. I checked all the three stories stated as sources and none of them mentions the 28th, unless I am missing something. Thank you in advance for your time. Amorkuz 06:59, October 6, 2017 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick response. I was secretly hoping you'd pull the date from somewhere and put the matter to rest. I'll continue digging. Amorkuz 09:50, October 6, 2017 (UTC)

Unsubstantiated accusations[[edit source]]

Hi, it is an unpleasant situation, and I regret that your proactive behaviour resulted in these recriminations instead of praise. I hope you understand that, as admins, we are obliged to investigate every report of potential wrongdoing. Let me, however, assure you that these investigations are performed under the standard presumption of innocence doctrine. Thus, until evidence is presented, you remain blameless in the incident. I have a lingering suspicion that, as often happens, this might be a result of a misunderstanding. For instance, your edit that was correct in one setting could be mis-extrapolated to another situation, where a similar edit became wrong. Once again, I understand it's unpleasant to be blamed. But, as you can see, two admins are actively involved in the case. Just let things run their course. At this point, the ball is not in your court. You can safely continue editing the way you prefer. Amorkuz 12:51, November 2, 2017 (UTC)

Unsubstantiated accusations still unsubstantiated[[edit source]]

I clarify that you are not and have not been under any investigation regarding this matter. As I wrote all that time ago, "it will be investigated as soon as you [Xx-connor-xX] provide exact information on when and where this occurred." I was being quite literal about it. No evidence has ever been provided of a wrongdoing. Thus, no investigation was ever initiated.

In fact, the response of Xx-connor-xX to that request of mine for such evidence made it clear that he did not have it. He then proceeded to accuse the admin of forcing him into this unsubstantiated accusation, much the same way as he had earlier blamed you for his mistakes. For me, this matter has been closed then and there. I regret if you felt under any shadow of suspicion all this time. I assure you that you were not.

As a matter of course admin must investigate reasonable and justified complaints but equally as a matter of course we ignore baseless accusations. Apologies for not stating this clearer. Amorkuz 23:13, January 3, 2018 (UTC)

Goth[[edit source]]

Hi, some long time ago in forums far away, you thought that there was some canonical evidence for Goth and Gulliver being the same character. Do you still think so? If so, could you provide your arguments at Talk:Goth please? I currently do not see this connection and tried to explain there why. Amorkuz 19:10, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

Thanks for the quick reply. Good to know we agree. I often think of this style of writing as attempting to both please fans by playing to their head canons and simultaneously not to spoil any continuity other writers might want to stipulate. The Woman (The End of Time) is a prime example. Having said that, I found another source, War Crimes. I'll post the relevant information on the Goth talk page. Plus I need to recall some terminology from The War Games. That may or may not give something new. Amorkuz 19:41, May 27, 2018 (UTC)

1966 World Cup[[edit source]]

I moved the content to a separate page on the 1966 World Cup Final where it is more relevant. The 1966 World Cup is a page on the whole tournament; as the majority of information was related to the final, it seemed more relevant on its own page. I can easily put it back if you want. 66 Seconds 15:16, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

No problem at all. I've added a disambiguation on both pages for the sake of other users. 66 Seconds 15:24, August 16, 2018 (UTC)

Fairy Godfather and other pantos[[edit source]]

Hi, sorry to bother you about several edits you made on October 24, 2014. Yes, I know, a long time ago. I'm trying to understand the sources of the additional roles in the cast list for Oh No It Isn't!, specifically The Fairy Godfather, Computer, and The Grel. All three were added by you. But, interestingly, not in one edit. What is the source for each of the three? Thanks in advance. Amorkuz 23:04, September 16, 2018 (UTC)

Dating for the Dalek Empire series.[[edit source]]

Hi, I know it was seven years ago, but going back through the history of edits in the Dalek Empire series, I've noticed you were the one adding the years to the story infobox settings. Having listened to all 4 audio series I haven't found any such references, so I can only assume it was from one or more of the Short Trips: Dalek Empire stories. Is this true? If so, would it be possible for you to send me the relevant quotes as evidence, so I can add them to the page notes, and also to Theory:Timeline - Doctor Who universe? Thanks a bunch Danochy 05:53, April 5, 2019 (UTC)

Thanks! Danochy 06:48, April 6, 2019 (UTC)
Hey, any luck with finding a source? Thanks, Danochy 02:00, June 2, 2019 (UTC)
Hey, just letting you know that User:Shambala108 has found that the source of the setting on this page here http://www.tetrap.com/drwho/disccon/8/time.html#boxitem, which, being an invalid source, means I'll remove the settings from the in-universe pages. Thanks, Danochy 04:55, July 9, 2019 (UTC)

For(u)m Letter[[edit source]]

Hey there, I hope your Halloween was decent. As you might know, we've not had forums for over two years at this point. A few of the regular editors have been having a discussion on this topic at Forum talk:Index and we'd like the input of other prominent editors if you have the inclination. Cheers. Najawin 09:01, 1 November 2022 (UTC)

Merry Christmas and happy new year.[[edit source]]

I Know the year's not done yet, though in my timezone, Christmas Day is here and the new year is close. Happy new year and enjoy your Christmas. User:Sum41Champ