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{{Infobox Individual
{{Infobox Individual
|name = Copper
|image       = CopperVOTD.jpg
|image           = CopperVOTD.jpg
|alias       =
|alias           =
|species     = Humanoid
|species           = Humanoid
|origin       = [[Sto]]
|origin     = [[Sto]]
|affiliation  = Sub-Wave Network
|only     = Voyage of the Damned
|affiliation2 = Titanic (spaceship)
|actor           = Clive Swift
|affiliation3 = Mrs Golightly's Happy Travelling University and Dry Cleaners
|clip = Twisted Christmas in London - Doctor Who - Voyage of the Dammed - BBC
|only cs      = Voyage of the Damned (TV story)
}}'''Mr Copper''' was an employee aboard the [[Titanic (spaceship)|''Titanic'']] who met the [[Tenth Doctor]] and [[Astrid Peth]]. After the near-destruction of the vessel, the Doctor allowed him to live in [[21st century]] [[England]].
|appearances  = [[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Time Traveller's Almanac (reference book)}}
|actor       = Clive Swift
|clip         = Twisted Christmas in London - Doctor Who - Voyage of the Dammed - BBC
}}
'''Bayldon Copper''', ([[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Time Traveller's Almanac (reference book)}}) usually referred to simply as '''Mr Copper''', was an employee aboard the ''[[Titanic (spaceship)|Titanic]]'' who met the [[Tenth Doctor]] and [[Astrid Peth]]. After the near-destruction of the vessel, the Doctor allowed him to live in [[21st century]] [[England]].


== Biography ==
== Biography ==
Mr Copper was a travelling salesman, but he reached [[retirement]] with little to show for a life's work. He pretended to have a first-class degree in "[[Earthonomics]]" to get the job of Ship Historian. In reality, he had been a student at [[Mrs Golightly's Happy Travelling University and Dry Cleaners]]. Copper helped the [[Tenth Doctor]] defeat the [[Host]]. After this adventure, he was stranded on [[Earth]] with nothing save the clothes on his back and a million-pound credit card. He had been issued this by the [[Capricorn Cruise Lines]] for purchasing trinkets from the local life forms, including samples of their local delicacy, [[beef]].
Mr Copper was a travelling salesman, but he reached [[retirement]] with little to show for a life's work. He pretended to have a first-class degree in "[[Earthonomics]]" to get the job of [[Ship Historian]]. In reality, he had been a student at [[Mrs Golightly's Happy Travelling University and Dry Cleaners]]. Copper helped the [[Tenth Doctor]] defeat the [[Host]]. After this adventure, he was stranded on [[Earth]] with nothing save the clothes on his back and a million-pound credit card. He had been issued this by the [[Capricorn Cruise Lines]] for purchasing trinkets from the local life forms, including samples of their local delicacy, [[beef]].


After being refused an opportunity to travel with the Doctor (because the Doctor did not want a new companion at the time), the Doctor told Copper that the credit card he had was worth the local equivalent of 50,000,056 [[credit]]s. Ecstatic at his newfound wealth, he planned to make a life on Earth so he wouldn't spend the rest of his life in prison on [[Sto]] for fraud. ([[TV]]: ''[[Voyage of the Damned]]'')
After being refused an opportunity to travel with the Doctor (because the Doctor did not want a new companion at the time), the Doctor told Copper that the credit card he had was worth the local equivalent of 50,000,056 [[credit]]s. Ecstatic at his newfound wealth, he planned to make a life on Earth so he wouldn't spend the rest of his life in prison on [[Sto]] for [[fraud]]. ([[TV]]: {{cs|Voyage of the Damned (TV story)|Voyage of the Damned}})
 
Mr Copper eventually used some of his wealth to establish the [[Mr Copper Foundation]], an organisation dedicated to advancements in science. ([[PROSE]]: {{cs|The Time Lord Letters (novel)|namedpart=Putting Things Straight|page=56-57|name=TTLL}}) Among the Mr Copper Foundation's creations was the [[Sub-Wave Network]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Stolen Earth (TV story)|The Stolen Earth]]'')
 
=== Legacy ===
In ''[[The Time Lord Letters]]'', a letter from the [[Tenth Doctor]] to Mr Copper was documented. The book's author had also researched Mr Copper, finding that there was no record of him on [[Earth]] prior to [[Christmas]] [[2007]]; he lacked a [[social security]] number, and his first name was not known, with the author believing "Copper" to be merely an alias. ([[PROSE]]: {{cs|name=TTLL}})


== Personality ==
== Personality ==
Mr Copper pretended to be knowledgeable about Earth but often made mistakes describing the Earth. Copper had been a travelling salesman but felt that he had not been able to accomplish anything in his life and lied to get a place on the ''Titanic''. Nevertheless he was a kind-hearted man, following the Doctor loyally and hoping to travel with him. He also tried to comfort the Doctor about the death of Astrid Peth, telling him to let her go. Mr Copper was ecstatic to find out he was a millionaire and promised to make the Doctor proud. ([[TV]]: ''[[Voyage of the Damned]]'')
Mr Copper pretended to be knowledgeable about Earth, but often made mistakes describing the planet and its [[Human|inhabitants]]' customs. Copper had been a travelling salesman, but felt that he had not been able to accomplish anything in his life and lied to get a place on the ''Titanic''. Nevertheless he was a kind-hearted man, following the Doctor loyally and hoping to travel with him. He also tried to comfort the Doctor about the death of Astrid Peth, telling him to let her go. Mr Copper was ecstatic to find out he was a millionaire and promised to make the Doctor proud. ([[TV]]: ''[[Voyage of the Damned (TV story)|Voyage of the Damned]]'')


== Behind the scenes ==
== Behind the scenes ==
=== First name ===
=== First name ===
The first name of this character is sometimes claimed to be ''Bayldon''. But where does ''Bayldon'' come from? It's certainly not in the episode itself, nor any other narrative source. Nor does it appear on the end credits of ''Voyage''. Or the final shooting script. Or the official ''Doctor Who'' website. Or in [[DWM 390]] and [[DWM 391|391]], the two issues of ''[[Doctor Who Magazine|DWM]]'' most relevant to ''Voyage''. In fact, the first name was such an irrelevance that [[RTD]] once said he couldn't remember it, but that it would make "a great trivia question". ([[PCOM]]: ''Voyage of the Damned'')
* In the early drafts of {{Cs|Voyage of the Damned (TV story)}}, Copper had the forename Bayldon, as can be seen in ''[[The Writer's Tale]]''. However, this never made it into the final cut of the episode.
** In the video commentary for the episode, [[Russell T Davies]] claimed that Copper used to have a forename, but he cannot remember it.
** It was only in {{cs|The Time Traveller's Almanac (reference book)}}, where the name from the script was shown to be his name in-universe; while the later publication — {{cs|The Time Lord Letters (novel)}} — claims that Copper's forename was "not known", and even that "Copper" may be an alias, the context of this statement comes from what is stylised as an in-universe book by an individual who isn't entirely reliable.


The reason RTD had anything to remember is because the character used to have a first name. In one of the first drafts, available to read in at least the original edition of ''[[Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale]]'', dialogue proclaims that he is ''Bayldon'' Copper. However, it was deliberately excised from the final script.
Because ''Bayldon'' is so far removed from the episode ''as aired'', [[Forum:Bayldon Copper?|this wiki has decided]] to ignore it in the naming of this article.
=== Casting ===
=== Casting ===
American actor {{w|Dennis Hopper}} was considered for the role of Mr Copper and was later offered the part of [[Max Capricorn]]. The actor was interested in appearing in the show, but Hopper's availability proved insurmountable.  
* The late American actor {{w|Dennis Hopper}} was considered for the role of Mr Copper and was later offered the part of [[Max Capricorn]]. The actor was interested in appearing in the show, but Hopper's availability proved insurmountable. Ultimately the role went to [[Clive Swift]], who had previously appeared in the ''Doctor Who'' episode ''[[Revelation of the Daleks (TV story)|Revelation of the Daleks]]'' as [[Jobel]].
** Nevertheless, the eventual prominence of the character, originally envisaged as a much smaller part, is a direct result of trying to get Hopper to play the role.<ref>''[[Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale]]''</ref>
* [[David Jason]] was also considered for the role.


Nevertheless, the eventual prominence of the character, originally envisaged as a much smaller part, is a direct result of trying to get Hopper to play the role. ([[REF]]: ''[[Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale]]'')
== Footnotes ==
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=== The Mr Copper Foundation ===
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As viewers learn in ''[[The Stolen Earth]]'', a [[Mr Copper Foundation]] developed the [[Sub-wave communication]] network used by [[Harriet Jones]]. Though the script for ''The Stolen Earth'' does not make clear it is ''this'' Mr Copper who started the foundation, ''[[Doctor Who: The Writer's Tale]]'' certainly does. But that's behind the scenes information, so references to the Foundation do not appear in the article above. If only RTD had retained the character's first name, the link would almost certainly have been crystal clear.


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Latest revision as of 13:22, 18 January 2024

Bayldon Copper, (PROSE: The Time Traveller's Almanac [+]Loading...["The Time Traveller's Almanac (reference book)"]) usually referred to simply as Mr Copper, was an employee aboard the Titanic who met the Tenth Doctor and Astrid Peth. After the near-destruction of the vessel, the Doctor allowed him to live in 21st century England.

Biography[[edit] | [edit source]]

Mr Copper was a travelling salesman, but he reached retirement with little to show for a life's work. He pretended to have a first-class degree in "Earthonomics" to get the job of Ship Historian. In reality, he had been a student at Mrs Golightly's Happy Travelling University and Dry Cleaners. Copper helped the Tenth Doctor defeat the Host. After this adventure, he was stranded on Earth with nothing save the clothes on his back and a million-pound credit card. He had been issued this by the Capricorn Cruise Lines for purchasing trinkets from the local life forms, including samples of their local delicacy, beef.

After being refused an opportunity to travel with the Doctor (because the Doctor did not want a new companion at the time), the Doctor told Copper that the credit card he had was worth the local equivalent of 50,000,056 credits. Ecstatic at his newfound wealth, he planned to make a life on Earth so he wouldn't spend the rest of his life in prison on Sto for fraud. (TV: Voyage of the Damned [+]Loading...["Voyage of the Damned (TV story)","Voyage of the Damned"])

Mr Copper eventually used some of his wealth to establish the Mr Copper Foundation, an organisation dedicated to advancements in science. (PROSE: "Putting Things Straight" [+]Part of The Time Lord Letters, Loading...{"name":"TTLL","page":"56-57","namedpart":"Putting Things Straight","1":"The Time Lord Letters (novel)"}) Among the Mr Copper Foundation's creations was the Sub-Wave Network. (TV: The Stolen Earth)

Legacy[[edit] | [edit source]]

In The Time Lord Letters, a letter from the Tenth Doctor to Mr Copper was documented. The book's author had also researched Mr Copper, finding that there was no record of him on Earth prior to Christmas 2007; he lacked a social security number, and his first name was not known, with the author believing "Copper" to be merely an alias. (PROSE: "Putting Things Straight" [+]Part of The Time Lord Letters, Loading...{"name":"TTLL","page":"56-57","namedpart":"Putting Things Straight","1":"The Time Lord Letters (novel)"})

Personality[[edit] | [edit source]]

Mr Copper pretended to be knowledgeable about Earth, but often made mistakes describing the planet and its inhabitants' customs. Copper had been a travelling salesman, but felt that he had not been able to accomplish anything in his life and lied to get a place on the Titanic. Nevertheless he was a kind-hearted man, following the Doctor loyally and hoping to travel with him. He also tried to comfort the Doctor about the death of Astrid Peth, telling him to let her go. Mr Copper was ecstatic to find out he was a millionaire and promised to make the Doctor proud. (TV: Voyage of the Damned)

Behind the scenes[[edit] | [edit source]]

First name[[edit] | [edit source]]

  • In the early drafts of Voyage of the Damned [+]Loading...["Voyage of the Damned (TV story)"], Copper had the forename Bayldon, as can be seen in The Writer's Tale. However, this never made it into the final cut of the episode.
    • In the video commentary for the episode, Russell T Davies claimed that Copper used to have a forename, but he cannot remember it.
    • It was only in The Time Traveller's Almanac [+]Loading...["The Time Traveller's Almanac (reference book)"], where the name from the script was shown to be his name in-universe; while the later publication — The Time Lord Letters [+]Loading...["The Time Lord Letters (novel)"] — claims that Copper's forename was "not known", and even that "Copper" may be an alias, the context of this statement comes from what is stylised as an in-universe book by an individual who isn't entirely reliable.

Casting[[edit] | [edit source]]

  • The late American actor Dennis Hopper was considered for the role of Mr Copper and was later offered the part of Max Capricorn. The actor was interested in appearing in the show, but Hopper's availability proved insurmountable. Ultimately the role went to Clive Swift, who had previously appeared in the Doctor Who episode Revelation of the Daleks as Jobel.
    • Nevertheless, the eventual prominence of the character, originally envisaged as a much smaller part, is a direct result of trying to get Hopper to play the role.[1]
  • David Jason was also considered for the role.

Footnotes[[edit] | [edit source]]