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== Infobox image - round two == | |||
In the past, there was a (very) brief discussion about changing the infobox image for the Second Doctor, but a change was never made. I agree with [[User:OttselSpy25]]'s argument that it's not the best image per policy, so I'm starting a new round of discussion. | |||
I've found a few images that potentially could be used for the infobox, but I encourage anyone to try and find mere suitable ones as well. Out of these, my favorite is #4. It just encompasses Two's personality the best. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
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TwoFingerPoint.jpg|Current image (#1). | |||
The_Enemy_of_the_World_Second_Doctor_5.jpg|[[User:OttselSpy25]]'s old proposal (#2). | |||
The Enemy of the World Second Doctor 9.jpg|(#3) ([[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]]) | |||
The Enemy of the World Second Doctor 4.jpg|(#4) ([[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]]) | |||
Second Doctor close-up-left personality.jpg|(#5) ([[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]]) | |||
Second Doctor in Evil of the Daleks.jpg|(#6) ([[User:Scrooge MacDuck]]) | |||
</gallery> | |||
:: All valid choices. I've added a suggestion of my own, #6, from ''[[The Evil of the Daleks (TV story)|The Evil of the Daleks]]''{{'}}s iconic "I ''will not'' be your slave!" scene. Though he might be remembered as 'the Clown', I think the more worried look is actually closer to the usual tone of Troughton's Doctor in his own era. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:29, 3 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
::: I quite like #4 at the moment. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 00:04, 4 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::: #4 is my favourite too, but I would also be happy with #2 or #3. [[User:LauraBatham|LauraBatham]] [[User talk:LauraBatham|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:37, 4 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
::::: I like #4 best as well. [[User:Danochy|Danochy]] [[User talk:Danochy|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:09, 4 July 2021 (UTC) | |||
:::: 4 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 5 >1 [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC) | |||
: So it seems that, since 2021, nothing has changed here. That works out well, because I actually think I have a better crop of images to choose from. We've had higher quality scans of a few episodes that are more easily available and a change in our image policies, so it makes sense to start from scratch. Compare: | |||
<gallery widths="185"> | |||
TwoFingerPoint.jpg|Current image | |||
Second Doctor in The Web of Fear.jpg|#1 - B&W | |||
Two close.jpg|#2 - Color | |||
The_Enemy_of_the_World_Second_Doctor_5.jpg| #3 - OS25 | |||
The_Enemy_of_the_World_Second_Doctor_4.jpg| #4 - FractalDoctor | |||
</gallery> | |||
: If we're not going to use an image from ''[[The Three Doctors (TV story)|The Three Doctors]]'' (a decision I myself am unsure about), I think #1 is very obviously the image we should use. Feel free to add other options or otherwise voice your opinion. [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:46, 16 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
: I really like this #1. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck|'''Scrooge MacDuck''']] [[User_talk:Scrooge MacDuck|⊕]] 01:35, 29 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: You know, this might be egotistical... But I still think my old #2 suggestion is the best pick. It just looks like the image I think of when I imagine Patrick Troughton/2. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]][[User Talk:OttselSpy25|🤙☎️]] 01:37, 29 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
:: While I like your old suggestion (which is now #3), I feel that #1 better encompasses Troughton's performance and character. The face is not only more neutral, but it is still expressive -- it's got that mischevious quality. Likewise, it captures Troughton's ragged costume (which is a big part of that "cosmic hobo" moniker he is often described with). While I would find your proposal ''acceptable'', I still prefer #1. 1 > 3 > 2 > Current. [[User:NoNotTheMemes|NoNotTheMemes]] [[User talk:NoNotTheMemes|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC) | |||
::: Reigniting this, and I've added my preference which is #4 in the most recent gallery. — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Talk">•</span>]] 13:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC) | |||
:::: I'm still not very happy with #4 in content — the grin simply seems a more superficial look at the character than the sterner looks — but notwithstanding my personal feelings there, it ''must'' also be said that it's noticeably lower-quality than #1 and #2. I would be willing to bow to consensus on #4 ''provided a higher-resolution version is found'', but of the current candidates, I think #1 (which notably also has him smiling, albeit less broadly) is the more justifiable pick. | |||
:::: In the interest of quickly rotating Doctor images to help differentiate ourselves from our [[Tardis:Forking announcement|former self]], '''I will be implementing #1 for the time being'''. However, '''if a higher-resolution version of #4 is found, please post it here and we will pivot to that one unless the vote turns otherwise'''. And of course, feel free to keep suggesting other possibilities. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC) |
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Infobox image - round two[[edit source]]
In the past, there was a (very) brief discussion about changing the infobox image for the Second Doctor, but a change was never made. I agree with User:OttselSpy25's argument that it's not the best image per policy, so I'm starting a new round of discussion.
I've found a few images that potentially could be used for the infobox, but I encourage anyone to try and find mere suitable ones as well. Out of these, my favorite is #4. It just encompasses Two's personality the best. OncomingStorm12th ☎ 16:12, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
User:OttselSpy25's old proposal (#2).
(#3) (OncomingStorm12th)
(#4) (OncomingStorm12th)
(#5) (OncomingStorm12th)
(#6) (User:Scrooge MacDuck)
- All valid choices. I've added a suggestion of my own, #6, from The Evil of the Daleks's iconic "I will not be your slave!" scene. Though he might be remembered as 'the Clown', I think the more worried look is actually closer to the usual tone of Troughton's Doctor in his own era. Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 16:29, 3 July 2021 (UTC)
- #4 is my favourite too, but I would also be happy with #2 or #3. LauraBatham ☎ 03:37, 4 July 2021 (UTC)
- 4 > 3 > 2 > 6 > 5 >1 NoNotTheMemes ☎ 23:39, 17 September 2021 (UTC)
- So it seems that, since 2021, nothing has changed here. That works out well, because I actually think I have a better crop of images to choose from. We've had higher quality scans of a few episodes that are more easily available and a change in our image policies, so it makes sense to start from scratch. Compare:
- If we're not going to use an image from The Three Doctors (a decision I myself am unsure about), I think #1 is very obviously the image we should use. Feel free to add other options or otherwise voice your opinion. NoNotTheMemes ☎ 06:46, 16 March 2023 (UTC)
- I really like this #1. Scrooge MacDuck ⊕ 01:35, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- While I like your old suggestion (which is now #3), I feel that #1 better encompasses Troughton's performance and character. The face is not only more neutral, but it is still expressive -- it's got that mischevious quality. Likewise, it captures Troughton's ragged costume (which is a big part of that "cosmic hobo" moniker he is often described with). While I would find your proposal acceptable, I still prefer #1. 1 > 3 > 2 > Current. NoNotTheMemes ☎ 02:38, 29 March 2023 (UTC)
- Reigniting this, and I've added my preference which is #4 in the most recent gallery. — Fractal Doctor • 13:25, 1 March 2024 (UTC)
- I'm still not very happy with #4 in content — the grin simply seems a more superficial look at the character than the sterner looks — but notwithstanding my personal feelings there, it must also be said that it's noticeably lower-quality than #1 and #2. I would be willing to bow to consensus on #4 provided a higher-resolution version is found, but of the current candidates, I think #1 (which notably also has him smiling, albeit less broadly) is the more justifiable pick.
- In the interest of quickly rotating Doctor images to help differentiate ourselves from our former self, I will be implementing #1 for the time being. However, if a higher-resolution version of #4 is found, please post it here and we will pivot to that one unless the vote turns otherwise. And of course, feel free to keep suggesting other possibilities. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 17:05, 1 March 2024 (UTC)