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== Enthusiasm ==
There is sometimes a fine line between enthusiastic editing and retaliatory action when things do not fall in the way seen by some editors. I hope that a single day block will allow the user in question to cool down on the undo / edit spree and it will not necessitate further action. --[[User:Tangerineduel|Tangerineduel]] / '''[[User talk:Tangerineduel|talk]]''' 13:21, February 9, 2020 (UTC)


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== IP user(s) ==
<span id="ssh">British English, please</span><br>
Hey, I see you contacted [[User:Tangerineduel]] about an IP user who kept engaging on an edit war over the series 12 page, and since Tangerineduel wasn't editing around that time, I decided to take action instead and block the IP.
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''Little'' advice though (and truly, this is just an advice): don't engage with the vandal in a discussion that has proved to lead nowhere in the past. I realize, through your edit history, that you have an affection towards "series pages", and I wholeheartedly understand the frustration of an edit war happening in a page we care about. However, this IP user has repeatedly demonstrated that they're not interested in reaching compromises or common ground while editing. Again, this is just advice, but, frustrating as it is, I don't see much of a point on trying to argue with them (past undoing their edits, that is).
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Usually I wouldn't even mention this, because ultimately it's your choice what you'll do with your time and how you'll respond to others' actions, but this discussion took place over an user talk page (namely, Tangerineduel's). I've known of a few editors who opted to recieve e-mail notifications whenever someone leaves a message on their talk, and engaging on a discussion with this ip user on their talk page means that Tangerineduel would (if they have this e-mail notification option turned on in their account) have recieved one truly useful email (your communication of the edit war) and then 10 further notifications which aren't.... ''truly'' helpful to anyone (nor meant for Tangerineduel, in fact). You see what I mean? So, if this, or any other ip user (or registered, for that matter) starts a discussion that seems to go nowhere over someone else's talk page, I'd ''strongly'' reinforce the suggestion of not engaging back.


Thanks for becoming a member of the TARDIS crew! If you have any questions, see the [[Tardis:Help| Help pages]], add a question to one of [[Special:Forum|the Forums]] or ask on [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|my talk page]]. [[User:SmallerOnTheOutside|SmallerOnTheOutside]] [[User talk:SmallerOnTheOutside|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:12, February 1, 2014 (UTC)  
Anyway, the situation is fixed. :) [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] ([[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|talk]]) 12:21, February 19, 2020 (UTC)
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:Again, I deeply understand how frustrating it is to have an user repeatedly undo your edits out of vandalistic natures; I've encountered them in the past too, so I sympathize with you on that.
:As for your point that "keep undoing their edits [...] would result in edit-warring" is not ''entirely'' true. [[Tardis:Vandalism policy#What you can do about it]] mentions that "you can help the site recover from vandalism by undoing the editor's action." and [[Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing#What isn't an edit war]] even further clarifies that "reverting obvious vandalism." doesn't really constitute an act of (edit) war.
:What may be true (if the user doing vandalism shows a particularly stubborn behavior) is that trying to remove their vandalism ''before'' they're blocked won't be much of a success due to them simply doing ''more'' vandalism. But that'd be resolved eventually as well.
:All in all, good job on keeping an eye on that page and getting in touch with the admin team/keeping a cool head through the situation. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] ([[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|talk]]) 00:22, February 20, 2020 (UTC)


== Daleks' Master Plan ==
== Reply ==
Hi! I have temporarily removed your edit from [[The Impossible Astronaut (TV story)]] because I would like to know a bit more about the source of your edit. Please tell me which specific episode of [[The Daleks' Master Plan (TV story)]] has the [[First Doctor]] commenting about [[Stetson]]s and having one shot off his head, and if possible I'd like a little more detail about the scene. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:05, September 18, 2014 (UTC)
I didn't create [[the Doctor's early life]] page. In fact, I was the one who was against it in the talk page. But after listening to what the true creator, [[User:NateBumber]], had to say on the matter, and their point on the pages getting too long and seperationg being a decent compromise between those that want to keep information against those that wanted to trim, I thought they had a point and acted accordingly.[[User:BananaClownMan|BananaClownMan]] [[User talk:BananaClownMan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:59, February 26, 2020 (UTC)
::I am not quite sure, I can't find them on the Internet to freely watch anymore. It just seems like everything I hear from everywhere is that the First Doctor has said this or a similar line. And The Impossible Astronaut matches this. But I'm sorry but I can't find it anymore. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:05, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
:::One of the basic rules of this wiki is that any material in an [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in-universe]] article must be properly sourced with a [[Tardis:Valid sources|valid source]]. If you remembered seeing/hearing something like this in one of the episodes, that could be sourced to the episode. But reading other people's comments on the internet is not considered a valid source — it's always best to verify information yourself before adding it in. The internet is wildly unreliable. Having seen the available 3 episodes (more than once) and listened to the audio of the entire story, I am reasonably sure the First Doctor says no such thing. In addition, if he had said it, someone more familiar with the story than us would have surely added that information by now.


:::In short, it's best to be familiar with the story material when you add information. For now, we won't add it back unless/until someone can verify it. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:32, September 19, 2014 (UTC)
== Source ==
Wait, the end of the episode saying "The Doctor will return in" doesn't count as official source? lol? <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-weight:bold;">[[User:Glinkalexwho|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:silver">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]]</span> 23:05, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
: We have to link to sources and you can't really create a link to the episode, nor can you post any spoilery images. Put another way, episodes does not count as sources for future episodes. Websites do. As you can see now, an admin has linked to a source on the official DW website containing said image revelation, and that counts. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:12, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
::Gotcha sorry <span style="font-family:Algerian;font-weight:bold;">[[User:Glinkalexwho|<span style="color:green">LetsPlay</span><span style="color:silver">Nintendo</span><span style="color:red">ITA</span>]]</span> 23:15, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
:::No worries. Just for future reference. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:16, March 1, 2020 (UTC)


== Images ==
== Timeless Child ==
Hi! Please read through our image policies, which you can find at [[Thread:148148]]. The images you uploaded today, while having the correct license and the correct format, were way too big in width for our wiki's use. You can find all our image guidelines at the thread link I posted. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:16, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
Hi! I'm confused as to why you reverted my edit on the [[Timeless Child]]. Why didn't it belong there? [[User:MystExplorer|MystExplorer]] [[User talk:MystExplorer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:33, March 4, 2020 (UTC)
::Yeah, hi again... Thanks. That was my bad sorry. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:52, September 26, 2014 (UTC)
:::I looked through the guidelines and I seem to be unable to find anything about how to control the size of the image. Perhaps it doesn't say so, or maybe I just couldn't find it. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:59, September 26, 2014 (UTC)


== Forum posts at Thread 164874 ==
== Timeless species in Doctor infoboxes ==
Hey there Danniesen, I noticed you added a link to [[Timeless Child's species]] in the "species" variable for the infobox on each incarnation of the Doctor. I'm wondering whether you think all the species variables should be changed to a link to [[The Doctor's species]] instead, maybe in a way similar to the current <nowiki>|alias = [[The Doctor's aliases#First Doctor|'''''see list''''']]</nowiki> paradigm? This would tie in with some other thoughts I've had about an "Infobox Incarnation" template. Let me know what you think. – [[User:NateBumber|<span title="User:NateBumber">N8</span>]] ([[User_talk:NateBumber|<span title="Leave me a note">☎</span>]]/[[Special:Contributions/NateBumber|<span title="Spy on my edits">👁️</span>]]) 14:48, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
:I don't think we should change the link to "The Doctor's species". The reason being that that particular article sums up something very vague that says (paraphrasing) "the Doctor could be various different species, we don't know for sure", whereas the "Timeless Child's species" is one specific species that cannot be debated, we just don't know very much about it other than the regenerative ability. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:01, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
::I don't follow. The whole point of the page [[The Doctor's species]], Danniesen, ''is'' that whether the Doctor is a member of the Timeless Child's species (or of any other given species) very much ''is'' debatable based on various conflicting sources. No two ways about it, ''[[Lungbarrow (novel)|Lungbarrow]]'' or ''[[Doctor Who and the Daleks (short story)|Doctor Who and the Daleks]]'', just to name a few, are ''not'' consistent with the Doctor having originally been of the Timeles species and then abandoned at the Boundary for a Shobogan to find. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:08, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
:::That's the whole point of multiple species points in "individual infoboxes". So that we can add multiple "species" points. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:11, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
:::: Maybe, but since we ''do'' have [[The Doctor's species]] to handle this special case where it's not (only) that the character is a hybrid of several species, but that we have a wealth of conflicting accounts, isn't it simpler and more elegant to link to that? Especially as this allows us to standardize all Doctor pages. Because I mean, can we say that [[The Doctor (The Cabinet of Light)]] is of the Timeless Child's species, per se? The precedent of "just because Missy says 'every dead human' has been turned into a Cyberman doesn't mean we put [[Amy Pond]] in [[:Category:Individual Cybermen]]" suggests we can only say that incarnations of the Doctor acknowledged by ''[[The Timeless Children (TV story)|The Timeless Children]]'' itself are Timeless.  --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:17, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
:::::Which is exactly why I only put it on those specific TV-appearing versions of The Doctor. And I gotta ask the question, if the Doctor's species was various/variable long before ''The Timeless Children'', why have we only created the page AFTER that episode? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:21, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
::::::Because the Wiki isn't perfect and we're only human. But [[The Doctor's species]]'s creation was part of an effort that's been going on for some weeks now and also included the creation of [[The Doctor's early life]]. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:24, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
:::::::Butting in here, first of all [[User:Danniesen]] you're last question is irrelevant. [[User:Scrooge MacDuck]] answered it better than I could. Second, I'm moving this discussion to the forums since it covers multiple pages and you could get more input that way. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:27, March 11, 2020 (UTC)


Hi! Based on some of your recent posts at [[Thread:164874]], I feel like I have to point you to a couple of our most important policies.
== Edit summary ==
Hi please carefully read [[Tardis:No personal attacks]]. The edit summary you left accusing another user of racism violates the policy of assuming good faith. Please let the admins know if you suspect vandalism or otherwise, but leave your comments out of the edit summaries thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:58, March 16, 2020 (UTC)
:Dear God. How far does "assuming good faith" stretch? Obvious racism needs to be called out. Surely "no personal attacks" is overuled by a policy of keeping the Wikia a good place. Also, calling out racism should not be considered a personal attack, especially because racism on the Wikia is definitely in no way a good faith edit. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:39, March 16, 2020 (UTC)


Please take some time to read through [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]. As you can see, we don't allow any spoilers, anywhere (with two exceptions). That includes story titles, which you posted in Thread:164874 and [[User:Skittles the hog]] has since removed.
==Panopticon thread on dubs==
Since you created ''[[GoldenEye 007]]'', which sparked the discussion, I daresay you'll probably have some interest in weighing in at [[Thread:268687]]. Cheers! --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:48, March 19, 2020 (UTC)


More importantly, please read through [[Tardis:No personal attacks]]. It stresses that we want everyone to feel welcome on this wiki. Telling someone to leave may not be considered an actual attack, but it's pretty close.  Skittles the Hog has been extremely patient with you in this matter; in the past people have been blocked for similar behavior.  
== A Message From the Doctor ==
Hi there. I do apologize about creating the page without first seeing your discussion thread about it. However, given that pages exist such as [[Strax Saves the Day (webcast)|Strax Saves the Day]], which serves the same purpose as [[Message from the Doctor (webcast)|Message from the Doctor]] I didn't think such a discussion thread would have been held. [[User:Sabovia|Sabovia]] <sup>[[Message Wall:Sabovia|(Message Wall)]] | [[Special:Contributions/Sabovia|(Contributions)]]</sup> 17:58, March 25, 2020 (UTC)


I certainly understand your frustration with the back and forth edits regarding Missy/the Master. Just keep in mind that many new users don't even know the forums exist; pointing them in that direction, whether in edit summaries or posts on their talk pages, is probably the best way to handle things. Thanks for your attention. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:02, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
== Revenge of the Nestene ==
:About the thing with the title I mentioned, yeah I know that there's a no spoiler-policy, and I should have said next episode. Very sorry, my bad. It was a mind-slip that one, I didn't realize I was spoiling, I just wrote a reply and didn't think further about it. Sorry.


:And about the thing I said to that user, I'm sorry about that too, I just meant the thread itself as he seemed like he was only going to say that we "denied". Sorry again. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:17, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
The prose version of the story was released on the same day as (indeed within minutes of) the "audiobook" release, so by convention, this is a prose story with a version read by [[Jacob Dudman]]. Feel free to place a {{tlx|rename}} tag and drum up a discussion at [[Talk:Revenge of the Nestene (short story)]] if you see the situation differently. In the meantime, we follow from the closest precedents.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 21:49, March 26, 2020 (UTC)


::But I would like to know what you mean by extremely patient on the matter. I have never (before that on the thread apparently) said something attack-worthy to anyone (not that I remember). --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:22, November 4, 2014 (UTC)
== admins ==


== Real world ==
Hi you must please stop engaging with other users who are either vandalizing the wiki or engaging in personal attacks and/or edit wars. Stop leaving them messages on their talk pages or the edit summaries. Make whatever necessary change the first time, then if it continues to happen, inform an admin '''before you are guilty of edit warring, not after'''. I know you're trying to help the wiki, but you have been guilty of violating [[Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing]] multiple times, and at some point one of the admins will be forced to block you for a short time. thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:48, March 26, 2020 (UTC)


Hi! Please take the time to read through [[Tardis:In-universe perspective]] and [[T:NO RW]]. Several of your recent edits violate our policies regarding info that comes from the real world and its place in the DWU. To put it in a nutshell, '''if it's not stated in a story, it doesn't go on the page'''. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:29, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
== Series 13 ==
:I did. And I understand now. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:31, December 27, 2014 (UTC)
Hey, just a quick thank you for your hard work on the series 13 page. Any new series page is obviously one of the hardest things to keep track of on this wiki, and it's nice to have someone so dedicated to keeping it patrolled and making sure everything is sourced properly. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:37, 20 October 2021 (UTC)
:Well, thank you. --[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)


== Facebook ==
== Series 13 Page Edits ==
Hi, I just wanted to know why you undid my recent edits on the Series 13 page. As far as I'm aware, the changes I made were completely valid, especially regarding the numerous individual Weeping Angel redlinks in the Aliens and Enemies section; I don't see how any of those pages could validly exist. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC)
: The "Returning foes" section doesn't need to have large walls of text, its large enough as it is. The "Aliens and enemies" section is for aliens and enemies, as it says. We cover the aliens that appear over the course of the series. While we do not need to cover every individual Angel that appears, because that would be a whole lot, we do not to cover the ones that appear more notably. --[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)


Hi! Please re-write your edits at [[Facebook]] into the past tense, as is required for all [[Tardis:In-universe perspective|in universe]] articles. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:26, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
Hi again. Sorry for not responding for weeks (been pretty busy), and if I came across as aggressive in my comment.


Yes, of course. That was me forgetting it. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:50, December 29, 2014 (UTC)
I understand your point about my edits to the "Returning foes" section  making said section super-bloated; I'll probably edit it again, but with much smaller notes, as I feel that it could still do with some clearing up.


== Re: image size ==
Regarding the individual Weeping Angels in the "Aliens and enemies" section, I'm not 100% sure what the wiki's rules are regarding pages for individuals of a species, but I still don't think that we should have loads of pages for each individual Weeping Angel from ''Village of the Angels'', especially when they're simply referred to as "[[Weeping Angel 1 (Village of the Angels)]]", "[[Weeping Angel 2 (Village of the Angels)]]", etc. It's a bit late given that these pages now actually exist, but I still don't think any of those pages actually need to exist. The only "unique" characteristic regarding those Weeping Angels is that they're members of the Division. And we could simply put [[Extraction Squad]] in whatever category we have along the lines of "Agents of the Division" (I think we already have one but I can't remember the name, and even if we don't already have one creating said category is pretty easy). Or we could make a page titled [[Extraction Squad (Village of the Angels)]] and stick it in said category, if we don't want to assume that all Extraction Squads are part of the Division. [[User:Thalek Prime Overseer|Thalek Prime Overseer]] [[User talk:Thalek Prime Overseer|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:57, 19 December 2021 (UTC)
:Hello. It's completely fine. Tone is hard to read in text and therefore has to be taken with caution in every case.
:As for the Weeping Angels, again, these are Weeping Angels that appear more visibly than others and therefore has reason to be there. We don't create individual pages for every Angel that has ever existed, but we do create them for those that appear to have more of a role, which these that have been created do. As for the titles, we've been doing the titles before when we have no individual names for something we need to cover, so labelling them 1, 2, 3 etc. is completely fine.
:As for the name of the Extraction Squad, I do agree that there can be a seperate name for them, if another kind of Extraction Squad pops up down the line, but as of now the Weeping Angel version is the only one we know to exist, hence the name as of now can remain as it is. --[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:38, 20 December 2021 (UTC)


Hi! In the majority of cases, we don't change the sizes of images that are placed on articles. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:50, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
== Tenses ==
Hi there. Just a reminder that we write articles in the past tense - I've gone and edited the [[Weeping Angel sketch (Village of the Angels)]] page accordingly. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:38, 29 November 2021 (UTC)
:Oh hey. I didn't even see that I switched to present tense while writing the page. Thanks for correcting it. --[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:35, 29 November 2021 (UTC)


:Oops sorry for the misunderstanding. If you take a look at [[Help:Photos]], it might be able to answer your question. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:33, December 30, 2014 (UTC)
== Series 13 ==
It would be greatly appreciated if you could help me understand why you restored Ed Hime as having definitively returned, and removed the sourced and verifiable content of <redacted per spoiler policy>. Much appreciated, happy editing! {{Unsigned|User:Zanda21}}
:I restored Ed Hime because as you can see in if you read the entire "Writers" section that he is placed below a text that reads something along the lines of "this is how the series was originally going to be", as it would be nice to also have that bit of information added on the page. Secondly, Den of Geek is not a valid source on the wiki as far as I'm aware. So can't be used. --[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
::Yes, but as you can see [https://tardis.fandom.com/wiki/Series_13_(Doctor_Who)?oldid=3205829#Writers here], your edit restored Ed Hime twice. I'm not sure why? And can I ask what makes Den of Geek unreliable? [[User:Zanda21|Zanda21]] [[User talk:Zanda21|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
:::Admin note here: [[User:Zanda21]] please do '''not''' post spoilers anywhere except on the series 13 page. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
::::Dear Zanda21, I agree. In that case your edit on that part is fully justified and I apologize on my part. I had not seen that this had somehow been re-added somewhere along the Edit History, and didn't see it showed up twice, and therefore took it you removed said info. That's entirely on me. --[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 07:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)


== Re: wiki help ==
== Series 14 ==
Hi. Please have a look at [[T:OVER-WIKIFY]] to understand why I've removed the excessive number of links. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:41, 25 October 2022 (UTC)
:It was hardly broken, though. There were several sections between my linking of the same thing. It both helps with reading, as different colours also makes reading easier on the eyes, and it prevents having to scroll back to a specific paragraph if you wanna go to a different page. —[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 06:30, 26 October 2022 (UTC)


Sorry about that. If something similar happens in the future, and it affects all wikis you try, then you'd probably need to post a message on the main wikia help area, and if it only affects this wiki, you can post a message at [[Board:The Drax Cave]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:06, May 21, 2015 (UTC)
== BBC DVD covers ==


== Series 9 page ==
Hi, I've been gathering every BBC DVD cover image on the wiki into one of my sandboxes, in order to see where there are any missing covers or duplicates.


Hi! Please be careful not to post spoilers in your edit summaries. Please familiarize yourself with [[Tardis:Spoiler policy]]. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 05:32, June 11, 2015 (UTC)
Pop over and have a look, and feel free to upload any of the missing covers.


== Videos ==
[[User:Doc77can/sandbox12]]


Hi! Please note that, per [[Tardis:Video policy]], only admins are permitted to upload videos to this wiki. If you would like to recommend a video for uploading, you may do so at [[Tardis:Video recommendations]]. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:37, August 14, 2015 (UTC)
P.S. I'm messaging several users so check the upload log first.


== Re: leaked episode ==
[[User:Doc77can|Doc77can]] [[User talk:Doc77can|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:25, 24 November 2022 (UTC)


Hi! Leaked information is '''not''' allowed anywhere on the wiki. Without giving away any  spoilery information, could you give me a couple of details? Specifically, I need to know the episode number or date of airing of the episode leaked. And is the entire episode leaked? Just a portion? Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:06, August 16, 2015 (UTC)
== File size ==


== Re: Moffat's previews ==
Hi, there. I've shrunk down [[:File:Doctor Who - S13 Eve of the Daleks Album.jpg|your recent upload]] because images [[Help:Image cheat card|images aren't allowed to be bigger than 100 KB]]. - [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)


Thanks for the heads-up. I don't really follow the current series so it help to have someone giving me updates.
== Unexplained revert ==


BTW, if you have something you want to add at [[Series 9 (Doctor Who)]] (which I've locked due to the leaks you mentioned), just post it at [[Howling:The Howling]] and then drop me a note to head over there and I'll add it to the page. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:17, August 17, 2015 (UTC)
Hello. Once again, you've reverted an edit of mine to [[2023 specials]] without an explanation, so I wonder if you could explain -


== Howling posts ==
# why the first instance of BBC in a section should not be linked but a later one should, despite the rules being that the first instance should be linked;
# why a sentence should end without a full stop, despite the fact that full stops are required at the end of sentences;
# why a page for releases from 1970 should be linked to when the sentence refers to the entire decade and not that year.


Hi! If possible, when you post something on the Howling for the series 9 page, I'd prefer if you could post your info at the Howling in the exact format you want it on the series 9 page (so that I can just copy and paste), and leave a note in the post where you want the information located (for example, lead, cast/crew, rumors, etc). You have far more experience in editing this page than I do, and you have a clear idea of where you want the information. It would make it easier for me, and would reflect what you want much better. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:26, August 19, 2015 (UTC)
Thanks. - [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:41, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


:Hey, I just wanted to let you know I didn't ignore your post about temporarily un-protecting the series 9 page; I was just trying to decide whether to do it and how it would work. But then today I remembered (stupid me) that I can protect the page against '''new and unregistered users''' but allow admins '''and''' established users. So you should be able to use it. If you could give it a try and let me know if it works, that would save us both a lot of work. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:40, September 15, 2015 (UTC)
:1. what first instance? You removed two instances of the link. If there is an instance further back, then add it instead. 2. Obviously that one has gone unnoticed, but you could easily add that without doing the other edits. 3. Because we should link wherever necessary and that is the closest we have. ——[[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:50, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


== Video links ==
::1. I removed the link to the BBC from the paragraph about 24 December and added one to the paragraph about 15 May. You reverted this.
::3. That doesn't make any sense at all. 1970 is a list of releases from that year. It's no closer to being about the decade than if you were to link to, say, 1976. [[User:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon]] [[User talk:Jack &#34;BtR&#34; Saxon|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:55, 27 December 2022 (UTC)


Hi! I just wanted to let you know that, per [[Tardis:Video policy]], we don't allow links to off-site videos. I had to remove the link you posted at [[Talk:Ohila]] and [[Talk:Prologue (webcast)]], but you can recommend the video be uploaded at [[Tardis:Video recommendations]] and then post it on those talk pages once an admin uploads it. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:20, September 13, 2015 (UTC)
== 2023 specials ==


== Page moves ==
Hi, before you go on a rant about a policy you don't like ([[Tardis:Don't over-wikify]]), please keep in mind that you '''did''' absolutely violate [[Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing]]. I didn't block you for this, but if you do it again, you could very well be blocked. Thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:17, 29 December 2022 (UTC)


Hi! Please note that, per [[Thread:128198]], only admins are permitted to move pages. See the thread for the reasons and the procedures. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:08, September 20, 2015 (UTC)
== Block ==


== Re:Questions ==
Hi you've been blocked for a month for violating [[Tardis:No personal attacks]] at [[Talk:Cwej-636984540#Conclusion]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)


Yeah, I understand that any image is from the episode is fine to be used on the wikia, I'm just saying that as this is a twist to make you watch the next episode, it is not the most representative example of the episode and thus is not the image we should use the infobox. [[User:OttselSpy25|OS25]] ([[User Talk:OttselSpy25|talk to me, baby.]]) 19:42, September 20, 2015 (UTC)
== No personal attacks ==


Why did you revert my edit? The episode was already over when I began editing. {{Unsigned|Nicodon04}}
Since you seem to need it explained to you, here goes (from [[Talk:Series 14 (Doctor Who)]]):


== Plagiarism ==
"all I can say is that it would seem that User:Aw21212121 fail to understand how we operate on the wiki and '''refuse to be taught'''. This combined with the fact that they also haven’t performed any other edits (one edit total) that isn’t just arguing on this page and in this talk page, leads me to the conclusion that '''they’re not willing to be a productive member of the wiki''' and are only looking to argue logic, which in turn makes reversal of constructive edits a '''clear case of vandalism'''."
Hi! Please don't add material from other websites to this wiki. As stated in [[Tardis:Plagiarism]], we only want original material on this wiki. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:44, September 26, 2015 (UTC)
:We only want user-created material on the wiki. The synopsis copied from the BBC website does not count. A synopsis, if I recall CzechOut's definition correctly, is about three sentences summing up what the episode is about. But it has to be original material. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:00, September 26, 2015 (UTC)


== Re: Ponding ==
The three items I have bolded are clear violations of [[Tardis:No personal attacks]]. You are not an admin and it is not your place to decide where an editor can/can't edit. "Not willing to be productive" is just an insult; and "clear case of vandalism" is your '''opinion''' about the edits of someone who disagrees with you. As an admin I do not find these edits to be "clear case of vandalism", and believe me I've seen plenty of that in my twelve years editing here.


It's pretty straightforward: only stories count. We don't even allow RTD's comments about Rose and Ten, or the identity of [[The Woman]], the Jack/Face of Boe situation, etc. And he was the storyrunner of the show. Gillan's comments are just her opinion, and even if Moffat agreed with her, the only way we would include it is if it was mentioned in a story. Hope this helps! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:16, September 30, 2015 (UTC)
Now, to deal with the bigger picture than just [[Talk:Series 14 (Doctor Who)]]. Over the years I have given you '''a lot''' of leeway in your behavior because of your valuable work on upcoming series pages. But my patience with you is just about used up, because you refuse to admit that your behavior/comments might have been a violation and you don't change your behavior. Let me make this loud and clear: I expect better behavior from you, a long-time editor, when dealing with others, especially new users. The wiki is better served by having a wide number and variety of editors, and you are giving the impression that either we don't want new users or we allow new users to be verbally abused. This is obviously not the impression we want to give.  


== Claims ==
And I have to state that your behavior in response to this post will make very clear to me whether or not you intend to follow the policy [[Tardis:No personal attacks]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)


It's a basic tenet of fiction that people can say things which aren't true. It doesn't matter whether it ''might'' be true, there is the possibility that it isn't. Claim is the proper word to use on this wiki, and when formally quoting someone in speech anywhere. I feel that you misunderstand the word, not me. If we could speculate that everything the Doctor says was true, then we would be going against everything this wiki stands for. [[User:RogerAckroydLives|RogerAckroydLives]] [[User talk:RogerAckroydLives|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:59, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
== Re: Series 14 (Doctor Who) editor ==


:One can lie to oneself as easily as one can to anyone else. He is making a reference, whether to a real event or a fiction is unknown. [[User:RogerAckroydLives|RogerAckroydLives]] [[User talk:RogerAckroydLives|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:11, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
Agreed. I've given them a 1 day partial block on editing [[Series 14 (Doctor Who)]] which I will escalate as needed. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:21, 27 June 2023 (UTC)


== Re: admin help ==
: Sorry about not getting back to you. I see that Scrooge has given a block. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


Hi! I will look into it a bit later when I have more free time later today. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:19, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
:: I've not really been busy, just very tired and burnt out. I needed a few days away from editing to rest. [[User:Bongolium500|<span title="aka Bongolium500">Bongo50</span>]] [[User talk:Bongolium500|<span title="talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


== Re: use of "claim" ==
== Image uploads ==


(Please note that I am leaving the same message at both User talk:Danniesen and [[User talk:RogerAckroydLives]], just to save myself a bit of work.)
Hey there, I just wanted to point out that a number of the images you've uploaded from the Doom's Day comic violate one of our rules concerning how to crop comic panels. Many of your images include bits and pieces of word balloons. The policy is that either ''all'' of a word balloon be in the image or not at all. [[User:WaltK|WaltK]] [[User talk:WaltK|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:40, 13 July 2023 (UTC)


Looking over the messages on your talk pages, I think I have to side with Danniesen on this one. While the use of the word "claim" may be grammatically correct, it does have a connotation that the person doing the claiming may not be telling the truth. If you look at [[Tardis:Neutral point of view]], you'll see that we try not to make value judgments about characters and their actions (we don't even call the Master or the Daleks "evil" unless we're attributing it to the Doctor or someone else). Therefore, to preserve an air of neutrality, I suggest the words "said" or "stated" as alternatives. Or in the specific example mentioned, that of Shirley Bassey, you could put in the references section something like "The Doctor mentioned Shirley Bassey", link to Bassey, and when the article is created a neutral explanation of the mention could be given. Hope this helps sort the issue out. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:40, October 11, 2015 (UTC)
== Moving pages ==


== Apology ==
If you move pages can you be a bit more cautious on correcting all the links that you are moving? Your recent (unnecessary) move of the River Song audio images has made them no longer appear on their respective pages. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
: These are not "textless covers", they are just covers as to my knowledge there are no versions of these specific covers with text on them. Why would they not be used in the infobox as they have been specifically created and tailored to promote that particular story? [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:56, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
:: I stand corrected, I hadn't seen the text versions. Thank you. [[User:DrWHOCorrieFan|DrWHOCorrieFan]] [[User talk:DrWHOCorrieFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)


No worries at all. I'm sure I've made similar such mistakes that other users have been at pains to fix. Hopefully we can leave this all behind us and continue to edit together to help strengthen this wiki.
== Block ==


Best wishes, [[User:RogerAckroydLives|RogerAckroydLives]] [[User talk:RogerAckroydLives|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:31, October 12, 2015 (UTC)
Hi, you're blocked for three days for your edit summary at [[Series 15 (Doctor Who)]]: "They do. But I guess you’d actually have to read them to figure that out". Please make sure to read [[Tardis:Edit summary]] and refrain from accusing others of not having read/watched or otherwise certain material. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:33, 2 February 2024 (UTC)


== Another Apology ==
== Erimem Never Die Twice ==
Danniesen, I am sorry for creating the LEGO Dimensions pages. I did not know there was a discussion about it. I will keep that in mind. :) [[User:CybermanFan|CybermanFan]] [[User talk:CybermanFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:58, October 17, 2015 (UTC)CybermanFan[[User:CybermanFan|CybermanFan]] [[User talk:CybermanFan|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:58, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
https://www.iainmclaughlin.com/


== [[T:OFF_REL#What_does_.22officially_released.22_mean.3F|T:OFF REL]] ==
Dude, someone has literally already given you the source for this book being out. You're making the wiki far less accurate by reverting the edits of people who buy these books. [[User:Mr Cobblemouse|Mr Cobblemouse]] [[User talk:Mr Cobblemouse|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 09:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


For future reference, the rule is actually that we wait for the top or bottom of the hour, so the creation of the article for [[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]] was allowed. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|21:01, 17/10/2015}}
:No. The source was not given. Please don’t make false claims. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:If the admins are saying always top, then no offence to them, but they need to review their own rules. T:OFF REL clearly says "you should wait, out of an abundance of caution, until the top '''or bottom''' of the hour after the end credits roll" and "The latest episode of Doctor Who is set to end its first BBC One airing at '''1915'''. You cannot start editing the article about that episode until the '''bottom of the hour, or 1930'''." If they want it to always be top of the hour they'll need to rewrite that part of the page. {{User:Digifiend/SigReal|21:15, 17/10/2015}}


::To be clear, the policy is that we wait until an episode has finished airing entirely, then for safety's sake we wait until the nearest top or bottom of the hour '''after the episode is finished airing'''. I have said "top" in the past, but if I recall correctly, it was only for ''The Magician's Apprentice''. As an American, I usually have no idea what time the show starts/finishes, and then I have to do the math to convert to my time zone. It's easier to say top of hour in the one (or two) case that I used that phrase. Sorry for the confusion. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:50, October 17, 2015 (UTC)
::Btw, you still haven’t replied to my message on your talk page. It’s bad precedent when people cannot provide sources for what they claim. Then anyone can claim something has been released when it has not. You say you have the ''Lucy Wilson'' books on your shelves, yet literally anywhere I look, they are still labelled as pre-orders. We need to prove if something has been released because as you might have noticed, the more obscure books and stuff keep changing their release dates up. The link you provided to the Erimem book is a good proof, but the anonymous user who made the release claim did not provide the proof. And it’s not up to other people to prove someone elses claim true. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:::I think the best way to explain would be to use a hypothetical example: say an episode starts at 4:30pm, lasts about 40 minutes and ends at 5:10. Then you could start to create/edit at '''5:30''' instead of having to wait until '''6:00'''. If that makes sense then I might add that to the policy page to make it more clear. (FWIW, I can't think of any show I watch on American TV that has different start times from week to week, which makes this show particularly difficult to figure out.) [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:01, October 18, 2015 (UTC)


== Quotation marks ==


The quotation marks show up in the lead, and there is a template that can show the title of an article with quotation marks, but we don't usually create character pages with the quote marks as part of the name. Try searching "The Doctor" and you'll see it won't take you to [[The Doctor]]. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:24, October 18, 2015 (UTC)
[[File:LW books.jpg]]


== the quantum shade is NOT "they" ==
It's not a false claim. The user posted the source yesterday before my message.
They is a completely different force. the quantum shade is just a tool used to kill people. "they" is the thing that put ashildir up to all this. i made the mistake of thinking the shade is "they" but please see sense [[User:NarnianAslan1|All Hail Aslan]] [[User talk:NarnianAslan1|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:52, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
Candy Jar are notorious for not updating their website. Most of their recent books haven't been updated as released on their website, but are available and are posted as for sale on other sites. Social media and their newsletter are the best way to check whether Candy Jar have released titles. Also, it's worse precedent to assume other users are making false claims and taking down their work without checking the facts yourself beforehand. If you're unsure, ask people first before you  take down their work. [[User:Mr Cobblemouse|Mr Cobblemouse]] [[User talk:Mr Cobblemouse|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:57, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


:Hey; just in response to your comments at [[User talk:NarnianAslan1]]: you cannot simultaneously claim "you need to speak to me properly", then adopt such a disproportionately antagonistic tone. Nothing in the preceding post is offensive, and to suggest he was trying to ridicule you is, quite frankly, bizarre. The tone is, to my mind, amiable - I mean, come on, the guy said please.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 20:34, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
Thank you for posting that photo. Also, yes I know the website is notorious for not updating, but neither did I find any other websites that labelled them as for sale. I was serious when I said that literally nothing I could find labelled them as for sale. Neither did their social media say anything. So obviously that’s suspicious when one person make a claim as to the opposite. Also, the anonymous user did not post any link to the Erimem book as proof. I checked. Edits are reverted when the claim is not substantial. Plus the user has had no previous edits, which makes the source-less claim even more unreliable. But the link is there now, so all is good. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
::I didn't. I summed up what he did on the page, andhe actually did speak in less than nice tone in the end. Your focus is on that one word only, but I look at the whole "see sense"-thing. Not a very nice thing to say actually. I mean, would you like that I told you "please do see sense, because what I say makes sense, yours doesn't"? Using the word "please" doesn't always make up for saying a less nice thing to a person. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:25, November 22, 2015 (UTC)


Obviously I don't think saying please negates any wrong doing, and I don't imagine for a second that that is your reading of my post. I see the phrase as a whole and it's not offensive. As to your question, I personally wouldn't be give a damn if someone asked me to see sense. It's an appeal, not an insult. The version you post - "because what I say makes sense, yours doesn't" - is a cynical extrapolation. That's not what he said. There is no malicious intent in his post, where yours is palpably hostile. I don't want to blow this out of proportion. I'm merely suggesting you adopt a less harsh tone, especially when it is so unnecessary. Take that how you will.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 21:47, November 22, 2015 (UTC)
They posted the link to the source on your talk page yesterday. I didn't add the link to your talk page. [[User:Mr Cobblemouse|Mr Cobblemouse]] [[User talk:Mr Cobblemouse|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
:Well... Obviously it wasn't his intent to offend, and I'm not saying for a moment that it was, but I just felt it was some kind of attack. Even if it wasn't. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:57, November 22, 2015 (UTC)


==The General Talk Page Apology ==
:Ah, in that case, I’m sorry. I didn’t see the message at all. They didn’t put their signature either and I didn’t notice until you posted, so I thought it was from you. My bad.


I didn't intentionally delete your comment. In fact, when I first started typing my response, yours wasn't there yet. My guess is that some kind of glitch occurred that deleted your comment when I put in mine. This has happened to me on other pages, with instances that either completely screwed up a page or deleting portions of it. Regardless, it was still in my edit that this occurred, so I apologize anyway for it. --[[User:DarkXaven|DarkXaven]] [[User talk:DarkXaven|<span title"Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:18, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
:In any case, they should have put the link on the page rather than leave me a message with it. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


== Series 10 and Cultbox ==
== DWM artists ==
''Doctor Who Magazine'' artists sometimes rotate, so can you be more diligent when copy-pasting templates when starting new pages? In three consecutive issue pages ([[DWM 604]], [[DWM 605]], [[DWM 606]]) you created you have incorrectly listed Lee Sullivan as the artist of {{cs|The Hans of Fear (comic story)}}, when it was actually Mike Collins. [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] [[User talk:Tybort|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)


Hi. I just cleaned out the [[Series 10 (Doctor Who)]] page, and as you are a major contributor to that article, I thought I should explain why I removed what I did. Most of it hinges on [[T:RW SRC]], which I highly suggest you read; it's not very long. Basically, Cultbox is not a source we can use. Having looked through their articles, they are mainly either a rewrite of information from an official source like the BBC, or based on dubious tweets of filming photos or the like. In the former situation, we should just cite the original source, and in the latter, we shouldn't include the information at all as it's unverifiable. {{User:PicassoAndPringles/sig}} 18:37, August 14, 2016 (UTC)
:I don't have access to the magazines myself, so I only have what has already been given to go by. And when creating a new page that needs to have the same type of content as a previous page, it’s easier to just copy paste the skeleton of the previous page rather than building the pages up from scratch. And sometimes, that’s bound to have minor details that needs changing or gets overlooked. I wasn’t aware about the artist, but I am now. Thank you for that info. [[User:Danniesen|Danniesen]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
 
== Encyclopedic ==
 
Yeah, I probably should have linked to a policy on that one. I'm speaking mostly to [[Tardis:In-universe perspective]], specifically:
 
<blockquote>
# Use past tense for in-universe portions of articles
# Write from the perspective of a neutral observer who has access to all known facts about your topic. You, the writer of the article, are omniscient, even though the subject of your article is not.
</blockquote>
 
Regarding the first, instead of saying, "The TARDIS arrives", say "The TARDIS arrived." Regarding the second, the article read like a plot summary and didn't even mention its subject, the goodbye party. Articles should be focused on their subjects, and state the facts as we know them clearly. You don't have to say the Doctor gave Ohila a "golden disk",  because we know that it's the confession dial. Also, there was way, way too much detail that was irrelevant to the actual subject: the goodbye party.
 
Finally, articles should never start with "once upon a time". [[Tardis:Leads]] has more on the beginning sections of articles.
 
One last tip: when you're starting an article from scratch, it's good to have a template to work off. [[Farewell tour]] is pretty similar and a good example of in-universe writing style, if a bit wordy. {{User:PicassoAndPringles/sig}} 16:57, September 10, 2016 (UTC)
 
== Class (series 1) page ==
Why did you undo my edit on the [[Series 1 (Class)]] page? It had a trustable source (which was cited right after the information). [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:13, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
 
:Where does the info that http://www.doctorwho.tv/ is not an valid source? At [[Tardis:Valid sources]], the only site whose title was close to doctorwho.tv I could find was http://www.doctorwhonews.net/ (a completly different site). I agree DWnews is not a valid source, but given DW.tv is a BBC-licensed (and edited by them as well) there is no reason to discredit it. {{Unsigned|OncomingStorm12th}}
 
:: The thing is, were still talking about two different websites. You're talking about http://www.doctorwhotv.co.uk/, a fan site. I'm talking about http://www.doctorwho.tv/, a BBC Worldwide site. Check the links and you see the're not the same site (despite the similar url) [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:09, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
 
::: Well, [[User:Shambala108]] (him/her)self edited the info I added and the only changes made was removing the links. Therefore, I'd assume it quite fites there. Additionally, links to which stories take places during which season are left. For example: [[The Blood Cell (novel)|The Blood Cell]] isn't an TV episode, but still, it is linked on the [[Series 8 (Doctor Who)]] page. For now, I believe it's better to leave it there as it is, given the books are meant to be set right after the season. [[User:OncomingStorm12th|OncomingStorm12th]] [[User talk:OncomingStorm12th|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:26, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
 
== Doctorwho.tv ==
Just a quick note: doctorwho.tv is from the BBC, doctorwhotv.co.uk is a fan site. {{User:PicassoAndPringles/sig}} 19:10, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
:Oops, looks like somebody else got there first. :) {{User:PicassoAndPringles/sig}} 19:11, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
::Just checked. Seems like I got them mixed up as being the same one. Thanks. :) --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:15, September 13, 2016 (UTC)
 
== Page moves 2 ==
 
Hi! Please remember, as I stated above, that only admins are permitted to move pages. Thanks. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:30, October 17, 2016 (UTC)
 
:As [[User:CzechOut]] is the author of the thread and the most technically-able admin on the wiki, you might want to bring it up with him. Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:00, October 24, 2016 (UTC)
 
== broadcast ==
 
To answer your question, I know when things broadcast in the UK because I know what ''broadcast'' means in English [https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/broadcast]. Programs are not broadcast on iPlayer: they are streamed or made available for download. Programs are broadcast on TV. As I already explained there, my statement meant that the episode is only ''broadcast'', or aired, or shown on TV in the evening. I was asking for a confirmation that it has already been made available for streaming/download. I thanked you for confirming that. And I thank you now for suggesting a way to check the streaming availability times for iPlayer from outside the UK. I was not aware of this and did not try as BBC took special measures to repel people from outside the UK recently. But there is no point polluting that page with this discussion. It's off topic there. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:05, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
:I know what "broadcast" means too, and I did of course mean "streaming". Thank you for pointing that out. I didn't mean to make it seem that I didn't know it. I do. Sorry, if it confused you. And you are welcome. No, I know that discussion was irrelevant on that page. :) --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:16, October 29, 2016 (UTC)
 
== Apologies ==
 
Hey, I have to apologize for accidentally blocking you earlier. I was trying to block someone else, whose talk page you had left a message on, and I clicked on your name by mistake. I realized my mistake pretty quickly and unblocked you, so hopefully it didn't even affect you. Sorry for my mistake. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 23:42, November 11, 2016 (UTC)
 
== The Metaphysical Edit Conflict ==
 
Ah, so it was just an edit conflict. Always best to check what's been changed before hitting send again when it tells you the page has been edited.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 00:31, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
:Actually, still a teeny bit confused about what happened. But far more importantly: you keep on accidentally removing all the categories. Now sure why, or how, but you should be aware.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 00:33, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
::Honestly, I don't know ''how'' the categories went kaput, but they seem to have done so twice on that page, both on your edits. My only theory is that you encountered an edit conflict, and copied over your own text from the bottom, without realising the categories weren't still in the little box on the right, at the top. Does that happen? I know the opposite does.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 07:02, November 28, 2016 (UTC)
 
== S10 episode titles source ==
The source given is the latest DWM, DWM 511. Just because no one has made a page for it yet doesn't mean it "doesn't exist". [[User:NateBumber|NateBumber]] [[User talk:NateBumber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:52, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
:[https://pbs.twimg.com/media/C8pBCssXsAAvdEB.jpg Here's a pic.] [[User:NateBumber|NateBumber]] [[User talk:NateBumber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:55, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
:: High, sorry to interject, but knowing rules is important for me. I am not aware of the rule prohibiting to use an otherwise valid source just because it hasn't been wikified yet. I would appreciate a link to this rule as a confirmation. Such a rule would be rather harmful, which makes me doubt its existence. Such a rule would simply create an additional barrier for adding information to the Wiki, while simultaneously providing no benefit to the verifiability of information. If the page exists, it does not mean that the necessary information is present on it. So a third party is in exactly the same position verification-wise whether the page exists or not. Anyway, I'd appreciate a confirmation of this rule. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:55, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
:::I agree with Dan's decision to remove the information. I undid his edit once as I was sure that the info had sources in place, however I later discovered that they did not. [[User:Xx-connor-xX|Xx-connor-xX]] [[User talk:Xx-connor-xX|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:15, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
::I second Amorkuz's objection: there shouldn't be anything wrong with citing a redlink. It would be pointlessly exclusionary if we didn't allow stories or sources to be cited on this wiki until pages were created for them. As it happens, I'm not going to make a page for DWM 511, but I don't think that should mean that our page on series 10 shouldn't have the most up-to-date information. (As for citing the picture ... that'd set terrible precedent, with all the nonsense rumors floating around in twitter pictures.) If there is a rule specifying this, I'll take it all back, but until then, I don't think this should even be a consideration. [[User:NateBumber|NateBumber]] [[User talk:NateBumber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:42, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
::: But doesn't it violate "Assume good faith" principle from [[T:NPA]]? Danniesen stated himself that he knew the magazine did exist at the time of posting. There are plenty of red links on this wiki, even for things published long ago. Shouldn't we assume in good faith, when somebody posts about a source that would definitely get a page sooner or later that they own the source at hand and post valuable information from it? I myself enjoy very much posting a scoop, i.e., being the first to find out and post information. In many cases, such information is more important than anything that would be eventually added to the page of the source. So there is no point in making the page for the source first. Plus, there are so many red links on this wiki, take [[3D 1]], for instance. Should we delete everything on [[COMIC]]: ''[[The Heralds of Destruction (comic story)|The Heralds of Destruction]]'' because nobody made pages for the comic issues they were printed in? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:57, April 5, 2017 (UTC)
 
== The Saviour of Time ==
Hey :) Thanks for your recent edits surrounding this (nominal) game, but please remember that it is not a valid source.  In general, this means that content about it should be placed on the page [[The Saviour of Time (video game)]] in the references section, rather than having pages created about it. (Occasionally, we do allow some pages about characters from invalid sources, if they're particularly noteworthy -- but we don't generally allow pages on relatively minor objects or concepts, such as the page you created about '''emergency mode'''.)
 
Also, content from the game about, say, Mercury absolutely shouldn't be on the '''page''' [[Mercury]]. Or Twelfth Doctor on [[Twelfth Doctor]]. Or Bill on [[Bill Potts]]. 
 
Thanks! {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 21:54: Fri 05 May 2017</span>
:Got it. :) --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:35, May 5, 2017 (UTC)
 
== A request ==
Hi. Can you please email me at [email protected]? Thanks --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:21, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:I'm gonna need a reason. Thanks. :) --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:24, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::Obviously, the reason will become apparent once I receive your email. --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:23, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:::Yeah, but what can be too secret to tell me here? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:35, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::::You'll find out. --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:37, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:::::Can't you just tell me here? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:40, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::::::Not really. Sorry --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:52, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::How can I know you're not just sending me some virus or something? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:01, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::::::::What sort of question is that?! Can you please just send me an email? --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:20, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:lol [[User:NateBumber|NateBumber]] [[User talk:NateBumber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:31, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::It's a perfectly relevant question. Why? --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:36, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:::Sorry, I'm not lolling at you, I'm lolling at this whole situation. Pretty funny in how weird it is. [[User:NateBumber|NateBumber]] [[User talk:NateBumber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:44, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::::It wasn't aimed at you, though. :D --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:46, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:::::Ahh, I'm dumb. Well, for what it's worth, I emailed Time Lord for shits and giggles, and I can confirm there's no viruses involved. [[User:NateBumber|NateBumber]] [[User talk:NateBumber|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:03, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::::::Hmm... well, I'm not one to joke over emails. :P I prefer to do it more directly like a chatroom, or Twitter or, you know, face-to-face. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:12, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:::::::What we're discussing is entirely serious, and is about benefiting this wiki. --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:27, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::::::::Okay. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:00, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
:Thanks --[[User:Time Lord|Time Lord]] [[User talk:Time Lord|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:09, May 10, 2017 (UTC)
::This conversation is a violation of [[T:SAFE USER]]. Please do not ''ever'' feel that you are compelled to give out personal information, such as an email address, because of what another user asks you to. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 19:57: Wed 10 May 2017</span>
 
== Korean spam ==
Good on you for being friendly. Unfortunately, this was spam delivered daily at about the same time. If next time you see it before me and ''if'' you want to do something about it (you don't have to), just ping me please on the talk page so that I get a notification. I'll deal with it. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 11:08, May 18, 2017 (UTC)
:Ok. Thanks. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:21, May 18, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Gagarin ==
 
To give you a little more context. What is shown in-universe is a photo of an astronaut without any context. Is he American or Soviet? Is it the first space flight or the tenth? Is it a man or a woman? Maybe the last question can be answered if one squints really hard. I  honestly cannot tell. With [[Neil Armstrong]] shown during the broadcast, the narration provides a way to identify him. These are just images. Unless you find the word Gagarin written across his chest (in the alphabet of your choosing) or some sort of indication that this is the first manned space flight, no, Gagarin did not appear in-universe in this story. Some arbitrary guy in a space suit did.
 
I'd appreciate it if you put the figure back into the BTS, by the way. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:52, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Einstein (and same for Edison) ==
Well, as you can see, there are several images of Einstein existing in-universe on [[Albert Einstein]]. Maybe you can find a portrait that is reasonably close to the actual photograph used in the episode. Or maybe some story mentions the formula E=MC2, which is visible in the episode. Then you can connect the dots, be proud of your find and write the text in a way that clearly explains where you get your information from. But look again at the Albert Einstein page. Tell me where 1905 came from for the formula. Is it really from the episode or is it a violation of [[T:NO RW]]? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 20:14, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
 
: And that is the danger of bringing our knowledge. Please remember that we are never sure what happened in DWU the "right way" (as in real life) and what went differently. The [[Prime Minister of the United Kingdom|Prime Minister]] in ''[[The Green Death (TV story)|The Green Death]]'' turns out to be [[Jeremy Thorpe]] as a crew's prank on his inelectability. Any of the historic figures can turn out to be this or that Time Lord, or not to exist at all, or have met the Doctor and be replaced by a robot, or ... It is because of this we need to be careful about dates, and names, and, yes, faces. In particular, the status of Donald Trump is especially unclear given the president in the Shadow World. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 21:00, June 8, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Links ==
Hi.
Erm, did you add those hyperlinks behind in the Type 70 page? If so, thank you.
 
I'd like to know how you did it, I have plans to add more pages to the wiki, and having connections would be a benefit. Thank you. {{Unsigned|[[User:Saint2]]}}
:You just need to add links to the pages. Simply adding these: [[ ]] --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:52, June 25, 2017 (UTC)
 
You mean I have to leave thos [[ symbols behind and the hyperlink would be created? How?
Sorry for the trouble. {{Unsigned|User:Saint2}}
: I suggest reading [[Tardis:Editing]]. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:00, June 25, 2017 (UTC)
 
Yeah, I found the page. Managed to set up a single link, so thanks. By the way what other changes did you recommend for the Type 60 page?
 
Also how do you change the header - I saw that part of the cleanup bar. {{Unsigned|User:Saint2}}
 
All right. All right. I was just trying to contribute. {{Unsigned|User:Saint2}}
:We are more than happy with contributors. All we are asking is that you read the guidelines and policies of the Wikia, that will help you getting better at editing articles and learning what is and isn't allowed on the Wikia. And also that you sign your comments on talk pages, using the four tildes. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:20, June 25, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Question ==
Can you explain [http://tardis.wikia.com/wiki/Series_11_(Doctor_Who)?diff=2405509 this revision] of yours?{{raw:w:papi}} 13:25, August 25, 2017 (UTC)
:Simple. We have a certain way of doing things on the Wikia. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:28, August 25, 2017 (UTC)
::Okay. Can you give me the link to the style guide section which explains this? Thanks.{{raw:w:papi}} 13:30, August 25, 2017 (UTC)
:::At least it used to be like that some time ago. Perhaps something has been changed. I remember that the Series pages listed Capaldi as Twelfth Doctor, whereas the episodes listed him as The Doctor. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:35, August 25, 2017 (UTC)
 
== Re:vandalism ==
 
Hi! I first want to point out how much I appreciate your concern for the wiki. I can definitely understand the point of view of someone who sees what appears to be vandalism and is not able to do something about it.
 
However, it goes against [[Tardis:No personal attacks]] for a non-admin to call another user's posts vandalism or to threaten another user who is thought to have committed vandalism.
 
If you think you see vandalism on the wiki, notify any active [[admin]]. More importantly, if you think someone is using more than one user name or more than one IP address, please notify [[User:CzechOut]]. He is the one who keeps track of [[T:SOCK|posters using more than one ID]]. 
 
One last note: IP (unregistered) users don't get any kind of notification when someone posts on their talk pages. In addition, someone who intentionally vandalizes the wiki won't care if you leave a message on their talk page. So it's not really worth your time to post on someone's talk page if you suspect vandalism.
 
Thanks for your concern, and for your hard work on the wiki, [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 02:44, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
:Okay, thanks. And you're welcome. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 10:40, September 10, 2017 (UTC)
::I'd like to add my thanks to [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]]'s for your dedication to the upkeep of the wiki. 
 
::Since this is an interest of yours, lemme send a couple of "best practices" your way.
 
::First, be aware that a lot of bad actors '''love it''' when you call them "vandals" or their work "vandalism". That's a ''reward'' to them. So in the spirit of [[Help:Don't feed the trolls|not feeding the trolls]], avoid using that word. If you can't figure out a way to describe the activity on this wiki ''without'' using that word, I would encourage you to go to '''a disused wiki''' on the FANDOM network, and send me or any admin a message there -- on either our talk page or Message Wall. That way, there is no obvious connection between the bad behavior and this wiki.
 
::Second, please don't claim with confidence that one user is another user. You just don't know that. They may well '''seem''' to have the same editing patterns, but you don't have the tools necessary to say, "User A is clearly the same as User B". Logically, with the massive number of IPs, the chances are that two different IPs are not the same person. So that's the presumption, and it's only with greater investigation that we can prove that presumption false. If you moderate your language to something like, "I ''suspect'' that these two users are the same," you'll avoid embarrassing problems that can come as the result of misidentification. And, yes, as Shambala108 said, on this wiki I'm the only one with the tools to make such an identification. So, again, if you see what you think/believe/suspect to be an identification issue, please contact me on another wiki. And you don't have to link back to Tardis to demonstrate the user. This works anywhere on the network:
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::Also, note that '''I will take action''' on your request, but I'm unlikely to comment upon it. The most I might tell you is that I have investigated the claim. Please don't feel that you've been ignored.
 
::Finally, if you see an emergent situation -- one in which a lot of bad action is happening at a rapid rate -- don't even bother with me or another admin. Instead, please proceed to '''[[w:c:vstf:Report:Vandalism|the VSTF wiki]]''' and post a report there. You don't have to be an admin at a wiki to post there. The VSTF '''do not''' handle user identification requests; for those you still need me. This is only for those cases where you see rapid, multiple, non-sensical changes to articles.  {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 18:33: Mon 18 Sep 2017</span>
 
== Series 11 info ==
Heya :) I just happened to be on Amorkuz' talk page for another matter and noticed your query about how to deal with '''[[series 11 (Doctor Who)|the page]]''' now that it's locked. When a page is locked, that means you have to get admin approval to add content to the page. So, just add that info, along with its source, to '''[[talk:Series 11 (Doctor Who)|the talk page]]''' in its own section. Then, ask an admin to take a look. If we think it's appropriate for the page, we'll then add it for you. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 16:55: Sat 30 Jun 2018</span>
:Ahhh, sorry. I didn't realise quite the sort of change you were proposing. Yep, spoilers should be avoided on the talk page. Instead. put it in a new thread at [[Howling:The Howling|The Howling]] under a generic name like [[Howling:Possible additions to the Series 11 page]], and then ask an admin '''on their talk page''' to decide whether the info belongs on the Series 11 page. Of course, an admin would be under no obligation to check out the link, but putting it in the Howling namespace gives them the option to then decide whether they want to see the spoiler.
 
:To be clear, though, if this were virtually any '''other''' page that were locked down — say, for instance, that the [[Rose Tyler]] page suddenly came under attack — the procedure would be to use the talk page to propose changes. {{user:CzechOut/Sig}}{{User:CzechOut/TimeFormat}} 17:30: Sat 30 Jun 2018</span>
 
== Re: Whittaker ==
 
Hi, I'm not really sure what you're asking. If you want to put some information from the article on the actor's page (including a '''limited''' amount of quotes), and source the article, that's fine. [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:15, September 25, 2018 (UTC)
 
== Creating pages ==
 
Could you please get in the habit of always including categories when you create pages? Please also try not to forget including {{tlx|NameSort}} and {{tlx|real world}}, where applicable, and remember that {{tlx|reflist}} belongs in a "Footnotes" section, not "External links". Just responding to what I'm seeing today, not necessarily your overall editing patterns. Thank you.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 20:39, December 10, 2018 (UTC)
:All good! :) Thanks again.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 10:14, December 11, 2018 (UTC)
 
== forum posts ==
Hi, since you are not an admin, it is not your job to define personal attacks (unless they are aimed at you), nor is it your job to define the validity of another user's forum posts. See [[Tardis:No personal attacks]]. Thanks, [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:33, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
 
: With all due respect to a fellow admin, [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] you are being unfair to Danniesen. If you reprimand me for taking a hard line towards a user who uses "raging insanity" towards a user or the whole wiki, if you, therefore, condone this language, you must allow other users to freely express their opinion on the matter. This is exactly the problem with personal attacks: if they are not prevented by us admin, other users might feel compelled to fight for what they feel is right. The only reason I did not block that user was to avoid even the appearance of bias. To be honest, I did expect you to ban them to avoid such appearance too. At this point, I am forced to ask if you are hereby giving a permission for other users to refer to your actions as "raging insanity", if you really do not believe this to be a personal attack? [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:26, January 10, 2019 (UTC)
 
==Disney Time 1975, Again==
Back from my exile, I find that despite your kind interceding on the talk page, ''[[Disney Time 1975 (TV story)]]'' ended up summarily deleted at some point, with not even a closing message on the talk page discussion. I still disagree wildly, and have [[Thread:251268|brought it to the Forums]]; I should be honored if you would once again join me in that little crusade. --[[User:Scrooge MacDuck|Scrooge MacDuck]] [[User talk:Scrooge MacDuck|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 19:50, May 23, 2019 (UTC)
 
== Categories ==
Hi please read through [[Tardis:"Real world" versus "from the real world"]] thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:06, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
:Okay. Will do. Thanks for correcting my errors too. --[[User:Danniesen|DCLM]] [[User talk:Danniesen#top|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 14:08, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
 
== RE: Rumours section ==
 
Because it hasn't officially been announced, and their work on the game (whereas they previously had no connection to the DWU) validates the rumour. Also, just a quick reminder to be careful not to leave any spoilers outside of spoiler-designated pages like series 12.{{User:SOTO/sig}} 15:57, May 25, 2019 (UTC)
 
== Re: The Runaway ==
 
Hi, apologies for not getting back to you sooner; I thought I had already answered your question. The thing is, it's been established that we do not cover invalid stories with the depth that we do valid stories. Since ''The Runaway'' is invalid, there are some things connected with that story that won't get pages. The page I deleted has very little relevance to DW. However, you can put this information on the video game's page, just don't create a page for it. Thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:26, May 29, 2019 (UTC)
 
== The Specials ==
 
Hey - just a note to say I've reverted your edit to [[List of BBC Blu-ray releases]]. To keep the list tidy, we haven't listed Steelbooks as separate releases within the tables, as most of the Blu-rays have had more than one release (plastic case and Steelbook usually). Instead, we've been putting a one-liner prose in the section where the original release exists (in this case, [[List of BBC Blu-ray releases#2010]]).
 
I also believe that the page [[The Specials (TV stories)]] that you've created is unnecessary. Looking at both [[:Category:DVD box sets]] and [[:Category:Blu-ray box sets]], pages only exist for anthology box sets, or box sets that span more than one season. Information about season box sets (The Specials are part of [[Series 4#Specials|Series 4]] for wiki purposes) tend to be put in as a section on the [[Series 4#Home media|"Home media" section]] of the relevant series article. Indeed, the Series 4 Steelbook is already mentioned here. I would suggest you move the relevant information (e.g. such as who did the artwork) to that article instead.
{{User:Eladkse/SigReal|22:26, 3 July 2019}}
 
== Block request ==
 
Hi I have temporarily locked the Series 12 page for a week. Hopefully that lets everything calm down. I've left a message on the talk page explaining how we do things here for the new users.
 
If the second user is indeed a sock puppet, please ask [[User:CzechOut]] to look into it. I don't have the capability of determining that kind of thing. However, since neither user has been blocked, they aren't actually violating any policy by using two accounts.
 
I'm not blocking the new user(s), partly because they aren't actually vandalizing the place, they're just unfamiliar with our rules. And I don't block people anymore, I leave that up to the admins with less experience than me. Thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:44, August 11, 2019 (UTC)
:Cool. [[User:Zanda21|Zanda21]] [[User talk:Zanda21|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 15:51, August 11, 2019 (UTC)
 
Hi, can you please just trust the admins to do our jobs? I don't block people anymore, but a blatant violation of [[Tardis:No personal attacks]] is one exception. I've already blocked the user. And please keep in mind that there are sometimes long periods of time when no admins are online, and we will take care of things when we are. Thanks [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 16:25, August 11, 2019 (UTC)
 
== Forum posts ==
Hi, I need to correct an issue with some of your forum posts.
 
Sometimes when you post, you don't get an answer when you apparently expect to, so you will post something like you did at [[Thread:260129]], asking "Anyone??". This post was only four hours after your previous post.
 
Please keep in mind that people have real lives, and also, some of us are in different time zones. There is no reason to get impatient when you haven't had a response in less than a week. If people are interested in your post, they will respond to it. A post only needs bumping if there's been a significant amount of time since anyone has posted (and by significant I mean several months).
 
For your video question, I suggest you ask [[User:CzechOut]] or [[User:SOTO]], they usually do the video checking and uploading.
 
Thanks! [[User:Shambala108|Shambala108]] [[User talk:Shambala108|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 00:03, October 25, 2019 (UTC)
 
== Article talk pages ==
Hi, I am responding to your edits on my talk. Nobody had responded to my edit in particular, so I did not understand it would be a problem to edit what I had posted. I was unaware that the mod meant responded to the whole page in general. Please restore my edits as I was unaware and I will be sure to follow the policy in future. Thanks. (I apologize, I didn't sign my name when I sent this earlier.)[[User:Gingergallifreyan125|Gingergallifreyan125]] [[User talk:Gingergallifreyan125|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:31, October 29, 2019 (UTC)
 
Hi, I thought I was using the correct format to respond to an edit by putting another colon to show I was replying to the above message, especially because the message was addressed to me. Thanks,--[[User:Gingergallifreyan125|Gingergallifreyan125]] [[User talk:Gingergallifreyan125|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 12:59, October 29, 2019 (UTC)
 
Hi, is there a page I can look at so I may become more familiar with the edits so I don't keep making mistakes rather than you editing my edits? It makes it hard to feel like I'm contributing.--[[User:Gingergallifreyan125|Gingergallifreyan125]] [[User talk:Gingergallifreyan125|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:06, October 29, 2019 (UTC)
 
: Please refrain in the future from deleting message of others on talk pages, even if their edits go against admin instruction. Please leave this for admin to take care of. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:49, October 29, 2019 (UTC)
 
== Thanks and apology ==
 
Hi, first off, sorry I was not quick enough to respond. Fortunately, there are enough of us admin around at any given point in time. Since my colleague dealt with this situation admirably, there is no need for me to do anything at this point. I am writing this message primarily to say that, when notified, I will continue dealing with vandalism and edit wars at the first opportunity. Thank you for alerting me (and more widely the admin team) to the situation. [[User:Amorkuz|Amorkuz]] [[User talk:Amorkuz|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 08:03, November 4, 2019 (UTC)
 
== Thanks for the update! ==
 
Thanks for the update! Saw your message. They can keep blocking my IP, I'll just get a new one. All I need to do is reset my internet. All of this, and it can all be stopped by you supplying a source that backs up what you're saying. It's really not that hard. [[Special:Contributions/61.68.154.209|61.68.154.209]]<sup>[[User talk:61.68.154.209#top|talk to me]]</sup> 15:25, November 5, 2019 (UTC)

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Enthusiasm[[edit source]]

There is sometimes a fine line between enthusiastic editing and retaliatory action when things do not fall in the way seen by some editors. I hope that a single day block will allow the user in question to cool down on the undo / edit spree and it will not necessitate further action. --Tangerineduel / talk 13:21, February 9, 2020 (UTC)

IP user(s)[[edit source]]

Hey, I see you contacted User:Tangerineduel about an IP user who kept engaging on an edit war over the series 12 page, and since Tangerineduel wasn't editing around that time, I decided to take action instead and block the IP.

Little advice though (and truly, this is just an advice): don't engage with the vandal in a discussion that has proved to lead nowhere in the past. I realize, through your edit history, that you have an affection towards "series pages", and I wholeheartedly understand the frustration of an edit war happening in a page we care about. However, this IP user has repeatedly demonstrated that they're not interested in reaching compromises or common ground while editing. Again, this is just advice, but, frustrating as it is, I don't see much of a point on trying to argue with them (past undoing their edits, that is).

Usually I wouldn't even mention this, because ultimately it's your choice what you'll do with your time and how you'll respond to others' actions, but this discussion took place over an user talk page (namely, Tangerineduel's). I've known of a few editors who opted to recieve e-mail notifications whenever someone leaves a message on their talk, and engaging on a discussion with this ip user on their talk page means that Tangerineduel would (if they have this e-mail notification option turned on in their account) have recieved one truly useful email (your communication of the edit war) and then 10 further notifications which aren't.... truly helpful to anyone (nor meant for Tangerineduel, in fact). You see what I mean? So, if this, or any other ip user (or registered, for that matter) starts a discussion that seems to go nowhere over someone else's talk page, I'd strongly reinforce the suggestion of not engaging back.

Anyway, the situation is fixed. :) OncomingStorm12th (talk) 12:21, February 19, 2020 (UTC)

Again, I deeply understand how frustrating it is to have an user repeatedly undo your edits out of vandalistic natures; I've encountered them in the past too, so I sympathize with you on that.
As for your point that "keep undoing their edits [...] would result in edit-warring" is not entirely true. Tardis:Vandalism policy#What you can do about it mentions that "you can help the site recover from vandalism by undoing the editor's action." and Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing#What isn't an edit war even further clarifies that "reverting obvious vandalism." doesn't really constitute an act of (edit) war.
What may be true (if the user doing vandalism shows a particularly stubborn behavior) is that trying to remove their vandalism before they're blocked won't be much of a success due to them simply doing more vandalism. But that'd be resolved eventually as well.
All in all, good job on keeping an eye on that page and getting in touch with the admin team/keeping a cool head through the situation. OncomingStorm12th (talk) 00:22, February 20, 2020 (UTC)

Reply[[edit source]]

I didn't create the Doctor's early life page. In fact, I was the one who was against it in the talk page. But after listening to what the true creator, User:NateBumber, had to say on the matter, and their point on the pages getting too long and seperationg being a decent compromise between those that want to keep information against those that wanted to trim, I thought they had a point and acted accordingly.BananaClownMan ☎ 13:59, February 26, 2020 (UTC)

Source[[edit source]]

Wait, the end of the episode saying "The Doctor will return in" doesn't count as official source? lol? LetsPlayNintendoITA 23:05, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

We have to link to sources and you can't really create a link to the episode, nor can you post any spoilery images. Put another way, episodes does not count as sources for future episodes. Websites do. As you can see now, an admin has linked to a source on the official DW website containing said image revelation, and that counts. --DCLM ☎ 23:12, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
Gotcha sorry LetsPlayNintendoITA 23:15, March 1, 2020 (UTC)
No worries. Just for future reference. --DCLM ☎ 23:16, March 1, 2020 (UTC)

Timeless Child[[edit source]]

Hi! I'm confused as to why you reverted my edit on the Timeless Child. Why didn't it belong there? MystExplorer ☎ 13:33, March 4, 2020 (UTC)

Timeless species in Doctor infoboxes[[edit source]]

Hey there Danniesen, I noticed you added a link to Timeless Child's species in the "species" variable for the infobox on each incarnation of the Doctor. I'm wondering whether you think all the species variables should be changed to a link to The Doctor's species instead, maybe in a way similar to the current |alias = [[The Doctor's aliases#First Doctor|'''''see list''''']] paradigm? This would tie in with some other thoughts I've had about an "Infobox Incarnation" template. Let me know what you think. – N8 (☎/👁️) 14:48, March 11, 2020 (UTC)

I don't think we should change the link to "The Doctor's species". The reason being that that particular article sums up something very vague that says (paraphrasing) "the Doctor could be various different species, we don't know for sure", whereas the "Timeless Child's species" is one specific species that cannot be debated, we just don't know very much about it other than the regenerative ability. --DCLM ☎ 15:01, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
I don't follow. The whole point of the page The Doctor's species, Danniesen, is that whether the Doctor is a member of the Timeless Child's species (or of any other given species) very much is debatable based on various conflicting sources. No two ways about it, Lungbarrow or Doctor Who and the Daleks, just to name a few, are not consistent with the Doctor having originally been of the Timeles species and then abandoned at the Boundary for a Shobogan to find. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 15:08, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
That's the whole point of multiple species points in "individual infoboxes". So that we can add multiple "species" points. --DCLM ☎ 15:11, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
Maybe, but since we do have The Doctor's species to handle this special case where it's not (only) that the character is a hybrid of several species, but that we have a wealth of conflicting accounts, isn't it simpler and more elegant to link to that? Especially as this allows us to standardize all Doctor pages. Because I mean, can we say that The Doctor (The Cabinet of Light) is of the Timeless Child's species, per se? The precedent of "just because Missy says 'every dead human' has been turned into a Cyberman doesn't mean we put Amy Pond in Category:Individual Cybermen" suggests we can only say that incarnations of the Doctor acknowledged by The Timeless Children itself are Timeless. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 15:17, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
Which is exactly why I only put it on those specific TV-appearing versions of The Doctor. And I gotta ask the question, if the Doctor's species was various/variable long before The Timeless Children, why have we only created the page AFTER that episode? --DCLM ☎ 15:21, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
Because the Wiki isn't perfect and we're only human. But The Doctor's species's creation was part of an effort that's been going on for some weeks now and also included the creation of The Doctor's early life. --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 15:24, March 11, 2020 (UTC)
Butting in here, first of all User:Danniesen you're last question is irrelevant. User:Scrooge MacDuck answered it better than I could. Second, I'm moving this discussion to the forums since it covers multiple pages and you could get more input that way. Shambala108 ☎ 15:27, March 11, 2020 (UTC)

Edit summary[[edit source]]

Hi please carefully read Tardis:No personal attacks. The edit summary you left accusing another user of racism violates the policy of assuming good faith. Please let the admins know if you suspect vandalism or otherwise, but leave your comments out of the edit summaries thanks Shambala108 ☎ 12:58, March 16, 2020 (UTC)

Dear God. How far does "assuming good faith" stretch? Obvious racism needs to be called out. Surely "no personal attacks" is overuled by a policy of keeping the Wikia a good place. Also, calling out racism should not be considered a personal attack, especially because racism on the Wikia is definitely in no way a good faith edit. --DCLM ☎ 20:39, March 16, 2020 (UTC)

Panopticon thread on dubs[[edit source]]

Since you created GoldenEye 007, which sparked the discussion, I daresay you'll probably have some interest in weighing in at Thread:268687. Cheers! --Scrooge MacDuck ☎ 18:48, March 19, 2020 (UTC)

A Message From the Doctor[[edit source]]

Hi there. I do apologize about creating the page without first seeing your discussion thread about it. However, given that pages exist such as Strax Saves the Day, which serves the same purpose as Message from the Doctor I didn't think such a discussion thread would have been held. Sabovia (Message Wall) | (Contributions) 17:58, March 25, 2020 (UTC)

Revenge of the Nestene[[edit source]]

The prose version of the story was released on the same day as (indeed within minutes of) the "audiobook" release, so by convention, this is a prose story with a version read by Jacob Dudman. Feel free to place a {{rename}} tag and drum up a discussion at Talk:Revenge of the Nestene (short story) if you see the situation differently. In the meantime, we follow from the closest precedents.
×   SOTO contribs ×°/↯/•]   💬•| {/-//:   21:49, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

admins[[edit source]]

Hi you must please stop engaging with other users who are either vandalizing the wiki or engaging in personal attacks and/or edit wars. Stop leaving them messages on their talk pages or the edit summaries. Make whatever necessary change the first time, then if it continues to happen, inform an admin before you are guilty of edit warring, not after. I know you're trying to help the wiki, but you have been guilty of violating Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing multiple times, and at some point one of the admins will be forced to block you for a short time. thanks Shambala108 ☎ 22:48, March 26, 2020 (UTC)

Series 13[[edit source]]

Hey, just a quick thank you for your hard work on the series 13 page. Any new series page is obviously one of the hardest things to keep track of on this wiki, and it's nice to have someone so dedicated to keeping it patrolled and making sure everything is sourced properly. Thanks! Shambala108 ☎ 17:37, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Well, thank you. --Danniesen ☎ 18:14, 20 October 2021 (UTC)

Series 13 Page Edits[[edit source]]

Hi, I just wanted to know why you undid my recent edits on the Series 13 page. As far as I'm aware, the changes I made were completely valid, especially regarding the numerous individual Weeping Angel redlinks in the Aliens and Enemies section; I don't see how any of those pages could validly exist. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎ 22:57, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

The "Returning foes" section doesn't need to have large walls of text, its large enough as it is. The "Aliens and enemies" section is for aliens and enemies, as it says. We cover the aliens that appear over the course of the series. While we do not need to cover every individual Angel that appears, because that would be a whole lot, we do not to cover the ones that appear more notably. --Danniesen ☎ 23:31, 28 November 2021 (UTC)

Hi again. Sorry for not responding for weeks (been pretty busy), and if I came across as aggressive in my comment.

I understand your point about my edits to the "Returning foes" section making said section super-bloated; I'll probably edit it again, but with much smaller notes, as I feel that it could still do with some clearing up.

Regarding the individual Weeping Angels in the "Aliens and enemies" section, I'm not 100% sure what the wiki's rules are regarding pages for individuals of a species, but I still don't think that we should have loads of pages for each individual Weeping Angel from Village of the Angels, especially when they're simply referred to as "Weeping Angel 1 (Village of the Angels)", "Weeping Angel 2 (Village of the Angels)", etc. It's a bit late given that these pages now actually exist, but I still don't think any of those pages actually need to exist. The only "unique" characteristic regarding those Weeping Angels is that they're members of the Division. And we could simply put Extraction Squad in whatever category we have along the lines of "Agents of the Division" (I think we already have one but I can't remember the name, and even if we don't already have one creating said category is pretty easy). Or we could make a page titled Extraction Squad (Village of the Angels) and stick it in said category, if we don't want to assume that all Extraction Squads are part of the Division. Thalek Prime Overseer ☎ 16:57, 19 December 2021 (UTC)

Hello. It's completely fine. Tone is hard to read in text and therefore has to be taken with caution in every case.
As for the Weeping Angels, again, these are Weeping Angels that appear more visibly than others and therefore has reason to be there. We don't create individual pages for every Angel that has ever existed, but we do create them for those that appear to have more of a role, which these that have been created do. As for the titles, we've been doing the titles before when we have no individual names for something we need to cover, so labelling them 1, 2, 3 etc. is completely fine.
As for the name of the Extraction Squad, I do agree that there can be a seperate name for them, if another kind of Extraction Squad pops up down the line, but as of now the Weeping Angel version is the only one we know to exist, hence the name as of now can remain as it is. --Danniesen ☎ 07:38, 20 December 2021 (UTC)

Tenses[[edit source]]

Hi there. Just a reminder that we write articles in the past tense - I've gone and edited the Weeping Angel sketch (Village of the Angels) page accordingly. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 10:38, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Oh hey. I didn't even see that I switched to present tense while writing the page. Thanks for correcting it. --Danniesen ☎ 11:35, 29 November 2021 (UTC)

Series 13[[edit source]]

It would be greatly appreciated if you could help me understand why you restored Ed Hime as having definitively returned, and removed the sourced and verifiable content of <redacted per spoiler policy>. Much appreciated, happy editing! – The preceding unsigned comment was added by User:Zanda21 (talk • contribs) .

I restored Ed Hime because as you can see in if you read the entire "Writers" section that he is placed below a text that reads something along the lines of "this is how the series was originally going to be", as it would be nice to also have that bit of information added on the page. Secondly, Den of Geek is not a valid source on the wiki as far as I'm aware. So can't be used. --Danniesen ☎ 23:26, 7 December 2021 (UTC)
Yes, but as you can see here, your edit restored Ed Hime twice. I'm not sure why? And can I ask what makes Den of Geek unreliable? Zanda21 ☎ 00:50, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Admin note here: User:Zanda21 please do not post spoilers anywhere except on the series 13 page. Shambala108 ☎ 01:10, 8 December 2021 (UTC)
Dear Zanda21, I agree. In that case your edit on that part is fully justified and I apologize on my part. I had not seen that this had somehow been re-added somewhere along the Edit History, and didn't see it showed up twice, and therefore took it you removed said info. That's entirely on me. --Danniesen ☎ 07:18, 8 December 2021 (UTC)

Series 14[[edit source]]

Hi. Please have a look at T:OVER-WIKIFY to understand why I've removed the excessive number of links. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 17:41, 25 October 2022 (UTC)

It was hardly broken, though. There were several sections between my linking of the same thing. It both helps with reading, as different colours also makes reading easier on the eyes, and it prevents having to scroll back to a specific paragraph if you wanna go to a different page. —Danniesen ☎ 06:30, 26 October 2022 (UTC)

BBC DVD covers[[edit source]]

Hi, I've been gathering every BBC DVD cover image on the wiki into one of my sandboxes, in order to see where there are any missing covers or duplicates.

Pop over and have a look, and feel free to upload any of the missing covers.

User:Doc77can/sandbox12

P.S. I'm messaging several users so check the upload log first.

Doc77can ☎ 20:25, 24 November 2022 (UTC)

File size[[edit source]]

Hi, there. I've shrunk down your recent upload because images images aren't allowed to be bigger than 100 KB. - Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 14:32, 2 December 2022 (UTC)

Unexplained revert[[edit source]]

Hello. Once again, you've reverted an edit of mine to 2023 specials without an explanation, so I wonder if you could explain -

  1. why the first instance of BBC in a section should not be linked but a later one should, despite the rules being that the first instance should be linked;
  2. why a sentence should end without a full stop, despite the fact that full stops are required at the end of sentences;
  3. why a page for releases from 1970 should be linked to when the sentence refers to the entire decade and not that year.

Thanks. - Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 16:41, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

1. what first instance? You removed two instances of the link. If there is an instance further back, then add it instead. 2. Obviously that one has gone unnoticed, but you could easily add that without doing the other edits. 3. Because we should link wherever necessary and that is the closest we have. ——Danniesen ☎ 16:50, 27 December 2022 (UTC)
1. I removed the link to the BBC from the paragraph about 24 December and added one to the paragraph about 15 May. You reverted this.
3. That doesn't make any sense at all. 1970 is a list of releases from that year. It's no closer to being about the decade than if you were to link to, say, 1976. Jack "BtR" Saxon ☎ 16:55, 27 December 2022 (UTC)

2023 specials[[edit source]]

Hi, before you go on a rant about a policy you don't like (Tardis:Don't over-wikify), please keep in mind that you did absolutely violate Tardis:Edit wars are good for absolutely nothing. I didn't block you for this, but if you do it again, you could very well be blocked. Thanks Shambala108 ☎ 02:17, 29 December 2022 (UTC)

Block[[edit source]]

Hi you've been blocked for a month for violating Tardis:No personal attacks at Talk:Cwej-636984540#Conclusion. Shambala108 ☎ 16:14, 25 February 2023 (UTC)

No personal attacks[[edit source]]

Since you seem to need it explained to you, here goes (from Talk:Series 14 (Doctor Who)):

"all I can say is that it would seem that User:Aw21212121 fail to understand how we operate on the wiki and refuse to be taught. This combined with the fact that they also haven’t performed any other edits (one edit total) that isn’t just arguing on this page and in this talk page, leads me to the conclusion that they’re not willing to be a productive member of the wiki and are only looking to argue logic, which in turn makes reversal of constructive edits a clear case of vandalism."

The three items I have bolded are clear violations of Tardis:No personal attacks. You are not an admin and it is not your place to decide where an editor can/can't edit. "Not willing to be productive" is just an insult; and "clear case of vandalism" is your opinion about the edits of someone who disagrees with you. As an admin I do not find these edits to be "clear case of vandalism", and believe me I've seen plenty of that in my twelve years editing here.

Now, to deal with the bigger picture than just Talk:Series 14 (Doctor Who). Over the years I have given you a lot of leeway in your behavior because of your valuable work on upcoming series pages. But my patience with you is just about used up, because you refuse to admit that your behavior/comments might have been a violation and you don't change your behavior. Let me make this loud and clear: I expect better behavior from you, a long-time editor, when dealing with others, especially new users. The wiki is better served by having a wide number and variety of editors, and you are giving the impression that either we don't want new users or we allow new users to be verbally abused. This is obviously not the impression we want to give.

And I have to state that your behavior in response to this post will make very clear to me whether or not you intend to follow the policy Tardis:No personal attacks. Shambala108 ☎ 18:52, 29 May 2023 (UTC)

Re: Series 14 (Doctor Who) editor[[edit source]]

Agreed. I've given them a 1 day partial block on editing Series 14 (Doctor Who) which I will escalate as needed. Bongo50 ☎ 12:21, 27 June 2023 (UTC)

Sorry about not getting back to you. I see that Scrooge has given a block. Bongo50 ☎ 16:05, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
I've not really been busy, just very tired and burnt out. I needed a few days away from editing to rest. Bongo50 ☎ 17:01, 19 July 2023 (UTC)

Image uploads[[edit source]]

Hey there, I just wanted to point out that a number of the images you've uploaded from the Doom's Day comic violate one of our rules concerning how to crop comic panels. Many of your images include bits and pieces of word balloons. The policy is that either all of a word balloon be in the image or not at all. WaltK ☎ 20:40, 13 July 2023 (UTC)

Moving pages[[edit source]]

If you move pages can you be a bit more cautious on correcting all the links that you are moving? Your recent (unnecessary) move of the River Song audio images has made them no longer appear on their respective pages. DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 18:21, 22 August 2023 (UTC)

These are not "textless covers", they are just covers as to my knowledge there are no versions of these specific covers with text on them. Why would they not be used in the infobox as they have been specifically created and tailored to promote that particular story? DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 18:56, 22 August 2023 (UTC)
I stand corrected, I hadn't seen the text versions. Thank you. DrWHOCorrieFan ☎ 11:51, 24 August 2023 (UTC)

Block[[edit source]]

Hi, you're blocked for three days for your edit summary at Series 15 (Doctor Who): "They do. But I guess you’d actually have to read them to figure that out". Please make sure to read Tardis:Edit summary and refrain from accusing others of not having read/watched or otherwise certain material. Shambala108 ☎ 14:33, 2 February 2024 (UTC)

Erimem Never Die Twice[[edit source]]

https://www.iainmclaughlin.com/

Dude, someone has literally already given you the source for this book being out. You're making the wiki far less accurate by reverting the edits of people who buy these books. Mr Cobblemouse ☎ 09:30, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

No. The source was not given. Please don’t make false claims. Danniesen ☎ 10:45, 31 May 2024 (UTC)
Btw, you still haven’t replied to my message on your talk page. It’s bad precedent when people cannot provide sources for what they claim. Then anyone can claim something has been released when it has not. You say you have the Lucy Wilson books on your shelves, yet literally anywhere I look, they are still labelled as pre-orders. We need to prove if something has been released because as you might have noticed, the more obscure books and stuff keep changing their release dates up. The link you provided to the Erimem book is a good proof, but the anonymous user who made the release claim did not provide the proof. And it’s not up to other people to prove someone elses claim true. Danniesen ☎ 10:51, 31 May 2024 (UTC)


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It's not a false claim. The user posted the source yesterday before my message. Candy Jar are notorious for not updating their website. Most of their recent books haven't been updated as released on their website, but are available and are posted as for sale on other sites. Social media and their newsletter are the best way to check whether Candy Jar have released titles. Also, it's worse precedent to assume other users are making false claims and taking down their work without checking the facts yourself beforehand. If you're unsure, ask people first before you take down their work. Mr Cobblemouse ☎ 11:57, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Thank you for posting that photo. Also, yes I know the website is notorious for not updating, but neither did I find any other websites that labelled them as for sale. I was serious when I said that literally nothing I could find labelled them as for sale. Neither did their social media say anything. So obviously that’s suspicious when one person make a claim as to the opposite. Also, the anonymous user did not post any link to the Erimem book as proof. I checked. Edits are reverted when the claim is not substantial. Plus the user has had no previous edits, which makes the source-less claim even more unreliable. But the link is there now, so all is good. Danniesen ☎ 16:14, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

They posted the link to the source on your talk page yesterday. I didn't add the link to your talk page. Mr Cobblemouse ☎ 16:35, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

Ah, in that case, I’m sorry. I didn’t see the message at all. They didn’t put their signature either and I didn’t notice until you posted, so I thought it was from you. My bad.
In any case, they should have put the link on the page rather than leave me a message with it. Danniesen ☎ 16:41, 31 May 2024 (UTC)

DWM artists[[edit source]]

Doctor Who Magazine artists sometimes rotate, so can you be more diligent when copy-pasting templates when starting new pages? In three consecutive issue pages (DWM 604, DWM 605, DWM 606) you created you have incorrectly listed Lee Sullivan as the artist of The Hans of Fear [+]Loading...["The Hans of Fear (comic story)"], when it was actually Mike Collins. Tybort ☎ 22:26, 18 July 2024 (UTC)

I don't have access to the magazines myself, so I only have what has already been given to go by. And when creating a new page that needs to have the same type of content as a previous page, it’s easier to just copy paste the skeleton of the previous page rather than building the pages up from scratch. And sometimes, that’s bound to have minor details that needs changing or gets overlooked. I wasn’t aware about the artist, but I am now. Thank you for that info. Danniesen ☎ 22:40, 18 July 2024 (UTC)
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