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{{Infobox Individual | {{Infobox Individual | ||
|alias= | |alias= | ||
|image= | |image = Lobus Caecilius (TFOP).jpg | ||
|species=Human | |species=Human | ||
|origin= [[Earth]] | |origin= [[Earth]] | ||
|spouse=Metella | |spouse = Metella | ||
|child=Evelina (The Fires of Pompeii) | |child=Evelina (The Fires of Pompeii) | ||
|child2=Quintus | |child2 = Quintus | ||
|only= | |only= | ||
|appearances=[[TV]]: ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'' | |appearances=[[TV]]: ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'' | ||
|actor= Peter Capaldi | |actor= Peter Capaldi | ||
|clip = Peter Capaldi's 1st Appearance in Doctor Who - Doctor Who - Fires of Pompeii - BBC | |clip = Peter Capaldi's 1st Appearance in Doctor Who - Doctor Who - Fires of Pompeii - BBC | ||
|first = The Fires of Pompeii}}{{ImageLink}} | |first = The Fires of Pompeii (TV story) | ||
'''Lobus Caecilius''' was a man who lived in [[Pompeii]] before [[Vesuvius]] erupted on [[24 August]] [[79]], whose appearance was | }}{{ImageLink}} | ||
'''Lobus Caecilius''' was a man who lived in [[Pompeii]] before [[Vesuvius]] erupted on [[24 August]] [[79]], whose appearance was subconciously taken by [[the Doctor]] in [[Twelfth Doctor|his twelfth incarnation]]. | |||
== Biography == | == Biography == | ||
Husband of [[Metella]] and father to [[Evelina (The Fires of Pompeii)|Evelina]] and [[Quintus]], Caecilius was a [[marble]] [[trader]] with political ambitions; it was to impress the [[augur]] [[Lucius Petrus Dextrus]], that he bought the [[Tenth Doctor]]'s [[the Doctor's TARDIS|TARDIS]] at the market, intending to display it as "modern art". | Husband of [[Metella]] and father to [[Evelina (The Fires of Pompeii)|Evelina]] and [[Quintus]], Caecilius was a [[marble]] [[trader]] with political ambitions; it was to impress the [[augur]] [[Lucius Petrus Dextrus]], that he bought the [[Tenth Doctor]]'s [[the Doctor's TARDIS|TARDIS]] at the market, intending to display it as "modern art". | ||
While initially planning to leave them to suffer the horrors that history had planned for them, the [[Tenth Doctor]] was convinced by [[Donna Noble]] to intervene and save Caecilius along with his family. As history would not record their survival, the Doctor thus did | While initially planning to leave them to suffer the horrors that history had planned for them, the [[Tenth Doctor]] was convinced by [[Donna Noble]] to intervene and save Caecilius along with his family. As history would not record their survival, the Doctor thus technically did not change history. By early [[80]], Caecilius and his family had resettled in [[Rome]], and adopted the Tenth Doctor and [[Donna Noble|Donna]] as their household gods. At this time, Caecilius was finalizing a major business deal with the Egyptians, which would ensure his family's financial security for the rest of their lives. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Fires of Pompeii (TV story)|The Fires of Pompeii]]'') | ||
== Legacy == | == Legacy == | ||
[[File:TwelvesFace.jpg|thumb|left|The Doctor remembers where he has seen his face before. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'')]] | [[File:TwelvesFace.jpg|thumb|left|The Doctor remembers where he has seen his face before. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'')]] | ||
The Tenth Doctor told Donna that he was not going to forget Caecilius' face in a hurry, | The Tenth Doctor told Donna that he was not going to forget Caecilius' face in a hurry, as he considered it to be a good, "strong" face. ([[PROSE]]: ''[[The Fires of Pompeii (novelisation)|The Fires of Pompeii]]'') Indeed, the Doctor later took on the face of Caecilius when he [[Fall of the Eleventh|regenerated]] into his [[Twelfth Doctor|twelfth incarnation]]. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Time of the Doctor (TV story)|The Time of the Doctor]]'') Although unsure why his new face appeared familiar at first, compared to other [[regeneration]]s, ([[TV]]: ''[[Deep Breath (TV story)|Deep Breath]]'') he came to realise that it was to remind himself that his purpose as the Doctor was to always save people — no matter how impossible or "wrong" it might seem. ([[TV]]: ''[[The Girl Who Died (TV story)|The Girl Who Died]]'') | ||
Caecilius's legacy lived on through his descendants, [[Evie (The Descendants of Pompeii)|Evie]] and [[Maxine (The Descendants of Pompeii)|Maxine]], all the way to the year [[2020]], where his distant relatives (who bore a striking resemblance to his past wife and daughter) conversed via [[VidChatX|video call]] during the [[COVID-19|COVID-19 pandemic]]. ([[WC]]: ''[[The Descendants of Pompeii (webcast)|The Descendants of Pompeii]]'') | Caecilius's legacy lived on through his descendants, [[Evie (The Descendants of Pompeii)|Evie]] and [[Maxine (The Descendants of Pompeii)|Maxine]], all the way to the year [[2020]], where his distant relatives (who bore a striking resemblance to his past wife and daughter) conversed via [[VidChatX|video call]] during the [[COVID-19|COVID-19 pandemic]]. ([[WC]]: ''[[The Descendants of Pompeii (webcast)|The Descendants of Pompeii]]'') | ||
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This character's surname was — by [[Russell T Davies]]' admission in ''[[The Italian Job (CON episode)|The Italian Job]]'' — derived from books in the {{w|Cambridge Latin Course}}, elementary [[Latin]] books about real, historical people. For this reason, it is frequently asserted that this character is meant to be a "celebrity historical character" in the vein of [[Charles Dickens]] or [[Agatha Christie]]. Many people, including at least one official merchandise licensee, believe that this character is supposed to be the historical {{w|Lucius Caecilius Iucundus}}. | This character's surname was — by [[Russell T Davies]]' admission in ''[[The Italian Job (CON episode)|The Italian Job]]'' — derived from books in the {{w|Cambridge Latin Course}}, elementary [[Latin]] books about real, historical people. For this reason, it is frequently asserted that this character is meant to be a "celebrity historical character" in the vein of [[Charles Dickens]] or [[Agatha Christie]]. Many people, including at least one official merchandise licensee, believe that this character is supposed to be the historical {{w|Lucius Caecilius Iucundus}}. | ||
[[File:TAA Regular example 2.jpg|thumb|[[Topps Alien Attax|Topps]] identified the character as "Lucius Caecilius Lucundus".]] | [[File:TAA Regular example 2.jpg|thumb|[[Topps Alien Attax|Topps]] identified the character as "Lucius Caecilius Lucundus".]] | ||
However, the script actually names him Lobus Caecilius; the words "Lucius" or "Iucundus" are never used in connection with Capaldi's character. In ''The Italian Job'', the production team specifies that they merely took the ''names'' from Cambridge Latin Course books: as [[Phil Collinson]] confirmed, "It's all in [the Cambridge Latin Course] — in terms of the names". But it was not the authorial intent that this character or his family be an attempt at recreation of historical figures. Instead, Davies characterised the use of the name "Caecilius" as a gag, supporting the many other broad Latin gags in the episode, similar to those found in the [[Asterix the Gaul|Asterix]] comics. | |||
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Latest revision as of 00:37, 22 October 2024
Lobus Caecilius was a man who lived in Pompeii before Vesuvius erupted on 24 August 79, whose appearance was subconciously taken by the Doctor in his twelfth incarnation.
Biography[[edit] | [edit source]]
Husband of Metella and father to Evelina and Quintus, Caecilius was a marble trader with political ambitions; it was to impress the augur Lucius Petrus Dextrus, that he bought the Tenth Doctor's TARDIS at the market, intending to display it as "modern art".
While initially planning to leave them to suffer the horrors that history had planned for them, the Tenth Doctor was convinced by Donna Noble to intervene and save Caecilius along with his family. As history would not record their survival, the Doctor thus technically did not change history. By early 80, Caecilius and his family had resettled in Rome, and adopted the Tenth Doctor and Donna as their household gods. At this time, Caecilius was finalizing a major business deal with the Egyptians, which would ensure his family's financial security for the rest of their lives. (TV: The Fires of Pompeii)
Legacy[[edit] | [edit source]]
The Tenth Doctor told Donna that he was not going to forget Caecilius' face in a hurry, as he considered it to be a good, "strong" face. (PROSE: The Fires of Pompeii) Indeed, the Doctor later took on the face of Caecilius when he regenerated into his twelfth incarnation. (TV: The Time of the Doctor) Although unsure why his new face appeared familiar at first, compared to other regenerations, (TV: Deep Breath) he came to realise that it was to remind himself that his purpose as the Doctor was to always save people — no matter how impossible or "wrong" it might seem. (TV: The Girl Who Died)
Caecilius's legacy lived on through his descendants, Evie and Maxine, all the way to the year 2020, where his distant relatives (who bore a striking resemblance to his past wife and daughter) conversed via video call during the COVID-19 pandemic. (WC: The Descendants of Pompeii)
Behind the scenes[[edit] | [edit source]]
Caecilius is notable for being one of the three characters played by Peter Capaldi within televised Doctor Who media, along with the Twelfth Doctor and John Frobisher. In the Torchwood Declassified episode Cracking Children of Earth, Russell T Davies suggested that, since they are played by the same actor, John Frobisher may be a descendant of Lobus.
The name game[[edit] | [edit source]]
This character's surname was — by Russell T Davies' admission in The Italian Job — derived from books in the Cambridge Latin Course, elementary Latin books about real, historical people. For this reason, it is frequently asserted that this character is meant to be a "celebrity historical character" in the vein of Charles Dickens or Agatha Christie. Many people, including at least one official merchandise licensee, believe that this character is supposed to be the historical Lucius Caecilius Iucundus.
However, the script actually names him Lobus Caecilius; the words "Lucius" or "Iucundus" are never used in connection with Capaldi's character. In The Italian Job, the production team specifies that they merely took the names from Cambridge Latin Course books: as Phil Collinson confirmed, "It's all in [the Cambridge Latin Course] — in terms of the names". But it was not the authorial intent that this character or his family be an attempt at recreation of historical figures. Instead, Davies characterised the use of the name "Caecilius" as a gag, supporting the many other broad Latin gags in the episode, similar to those found in the Asterix comics.
