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==Quotes==
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Who removed the quotes? -- [[User:Darth Batrus|Darth Batrus]] 12:21, 09 August 2008 (UTC)
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:I did. Quotes are against the [[Tardis:Manual of style#Quotations|manual of style]]. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] 15:35, 9 August 2008 (UTC)
Just wondering - why does it say that Silurian's red thingy in the forehead is an eye? For me it's more like an augmentation of sorts, they're technologically advanced after all...{{unsigned-anon|128.73.22.123}}


==Images==
:Because they call it an eye, so it must be an eye. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] [[User talk:Azes13|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:27, August 8, 2012 (UTC)
Not sure if this is helpful but found this picture whilst reading some extracts from Scales of Injustice and wondered if it might be something to add to the article. Anyway, here it is: http://www.bbc.co.uk/doctorwho/classic/ebooks/scalesofinjustice/images/800/ep3.html [[User:Darth Batrus|Darth Batrus]] 18:46, November 22, 2009 (UTC)
==Appearences==
It says that they are appearing in the pandorica opens and the big bang, does anyone know that for sure? ~ [[User:BillyWilliam3rd|BillyWilliam3rd]]


==300Mya==
Oh, do they? OK, won't interfere then.)
In [[The Hungry Earth]], at 33:37, the Doctor says, "You're 300 million years outside your comfort zone."


300Mya is around the start of the Permian period (Cisuralian age, Asselian epoch, to be specific). It was during this era that the proto-reptiles split into two lines--pelycosaurs and sauropsids. The pelycosaurs were the ancestors of therapsids (mammal-like reptiles), mammals, and other synapsids. The sauropsids were the ancestors of the birds, most familiar dinosaurs, and modern reptiles.
==Citation needed==
The <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> present in the lead demands a source for what I assume is the co-existence of Silurians and Sea Devils. However, were I to put ''Warriors of the Deep'', this would immediately appear to be the source for all those alternative names, when it isn't. Are we to simply put all the necessary sources in the lead? I think this would be best, but perhaps in groups so an not to disrupt the flow. I know it's not convention to source leads, but I certainly think it should be. Hopefully someone can see through all the superflous text here, as I appear to have hidden my own question.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 22:08, September 14, 2012 (UTC)


Anyway, pelycosaurs are clearly still reptilian, and probably cold-blooded, but much more mammal-like in other ways than the sauropsids. And they ruled the planet for most of the next 50M years (until the P-Tr extinction wiped most of them out and the sauropsids took over, until the K-T extinction, aka the Adric extinction, 185 million years later, when synapsids took back over, in the form of mammals).
:I think the citation is required for the fact that the Silurians are from the Silurian period, which is contradicted by most of the other sources and mentioned in the Behind the Scenes section. I'm just going to remove that bit.-<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] [[User talk:Azes13|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:49, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
:: Sorry if that wasn't clear. The Fact tag I added was for the "lived during the Silurian" rather than "co-existed with Sea Devils". -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 10:21, September 15, 2012 (UTC)


So, the Silurians could be early pelycosaurs, who evolved around 300Mya. Or they could be Carboniferous-era early reptiles who went into hibernation at the start of the Permian, maybe with different groups of them awakening at various different times in the future as a means of escaping the multiple extinction events.
Um hi could everyone just sign there comments? just hold shift and push the key wright below the esc key four times thank you.[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:54, December 31, 2012 (UTC)


I don't know if this helps the dating issue or just adds more controversy. If these are very early Silurians, that would explain the lack of the third eye and psychic powers.
== Non-use of weaponry ==


Anyway, I'm not sure how to fit all this information into the article, but I'll add the basic 300Mya mention. --[[User:Falcotron|Falcotron]] 05:00, May 23, 2010 (UTC)
Would the armies of Silurians using weapons post-2010 contradict what this page says about them usually not being armed? Or should this be a "Wenley vs. Wales" distinction? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 22:57, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
:Please don't try to fit this info into the article at all.  Or, if you simply ''can't'' resist, please be '''very brief''' and put it either in an italicized, indented paragraph or clearly under the behind-the-scenes section. It's out-of-universe info.  And perhaps more to the point, it's speculation about the nature of the connection of the DWU to the RW.  And that's really not on. '''[[User:CzechOut|<span style="background:blue;color:white">Czech</span><span style="background:red;color:white">Out</span>]]'''  [[User talk:CzechOut|]] | [[Special:Contributions/CzechOut|<font size="+1">✍</font>]] 21:46, May 26, 2010 (UTC)


==Warrior-gender==
== Weakness ==
Is it worth noting that the majority of the warrior Silurians seen in series 5 are female? [[User:Hellkaiserryo12|<font color="FireBrick" size="2px">'''''Hell'''''</font><font color="Crimson" size="2px">'''''Kaiser'''''</font><font color="FireBrick" size="2px">'''''ryo12'''''</font>]] ([[user_talk:Hellkaiserryo12|Talk]]&bull;[[Special:Contributions/Hellkaiserryo12|Contribs]]) 22:31, June 18, 2010 (UTC)


No, I don't think so. Not unless we can find an explanation for why this is.[[Special:Contributions/122.105.223.16|122.105.223.16]] 07:59, June 27, 2010 (UTC)
When Alaya is killed with a stun gun, I thought it was odd that she died from something so simple. Are the Silurians really susceptible to electricity? {{unsigned|Kurai the Tsukikage}}


==Susceptibility to electricity==
Was it an aquatic silurian or a land living one?[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:56, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Is it also worth noting the fact that Ambrose was able to kill a Silurian using only a few taser blasts? Although it's well known that even one taser shot can kill a person (as the media here in North America regularly reports), it might be worth noting that this same weakness afflicts at least the version of the Silurians seen in HE/CB. [[Special:Contributions/68.146.81.123|68.146.81.123]] 21:18, June 21, 2010 (UTC)
 
Land living, she's from the new episodes. She's the new one in the main picture on the Silurian page.
 
oh yeah now I remember her.  Mabye there was a more powerful setting on the stun gun or mabye since she lived underground she had water on her and was electrocuted.[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:36, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
 
:You do know that [[:wikipedia:Taser safety issues#Deaths and injuries related to Taser use|you can kill a human]] with a stun gun, right? It's not that much of a stretch to assume you could kill a Silurian the same way. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] [[User talk:Azes13|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:08, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
 
Yes, I know humans can also die from stun guns. However, I figured it would have been on setting that wouldn't be strong enough to kill her which led me to believe they may be more susceptible.
 
Well the lady was threatening her since her father was poisoned and her husband an her ''son'' had been kidnapped, so she seemed pretty serious to me.[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:34, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
 
== Naming issue section ==
 
Is the "naming issue" section of this page anything other than conjecture along with describing inaccuracies in made up scientific names? If so, don't even behind the scenes sections violate [[T:NO RW]] when doing this? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 21:52, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
 
== Tabbed gallery - infobox ==
 
Unusually, this page has 3 images in the infobox side by side. Should these be updated so they appear within a newly-agreed upon tabbed gallery instead? — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 13:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
 
: Just giving this a nudge. Should the images be put into an infobox gallery like others have? — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 18:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
 
:: That sounds reasonable. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|📢]]  18:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)

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Just wondering - why does it say that Silurian's red thingy in the forehead is an eye? For me it's more like an augmentation of sorts, they're technologically advanced after all...The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.73.22.123 (talk).

Because they call it an eye, so it must be an eye. -<Azes13 13:27, August 8, 2012 (UTC)

Oh, do they? OK, won't interfere then.)

Citation needed[[edit source]]

The {{fact}} present in the lead demands a source for what I assume is the co-existence of Silurians and Sea Devils. However, were I to put Warriors of the Deep, this would immediately appear to be the source for all those alternative names, when it isn't. Are we to simply put all the necessary sources in the lead? I think this would be best, but perhaps in groups so an not to disrupt the flow. I know it's not convention to source leads, but I certainly think it should be. Hopefully someone can see through all the superflous text here, as I appear to have hidden my own question.--Skittles the hog - talk 22:08, September 14, 2012 (UTC)

I think the citation is required for the fact that the Silurians are from the Silurian period, which is contradicted by most of the other sources and mentioned in the Behind the Scenes section. I'm just going to remove that bit.-<Azes13 03:49, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
Sorry if that wasn't clear. The Fact tag I added was for the "lived during the Silurian" rather than "co-existed with Sea Devils". -- Tybort (talk page) 10:21, September 15, 2012 (UTC)

Um hi could everyone just sign there comments? just hold shift and push the key wright below the esc key four times thank you.Homo reptilia 18:54, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Non-use of weaponry[[edit source]]

Would the armies of Silurians using weapons post-2010 contradict what this page says about them usually not being armed? Or should this be a "Wenley vs. Wales" distinction? -- Tybort (talk page) 22:57, October 2, 2012 (UTC)

Weakness[[edit source]]

When Alaya is killed with a stun gun, I thought it was odd that she died from something so simple. Are the Silurians really susceptible to electricity? The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kurai the Tsukikage (talk • contribs) .

Was it an aquatic silurian or a land living one?Homo reptilia 18:56, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

Land living, she's from the new episodes. She's the new one in the main picture on the Silurian page.

oh yeah now I remember her. Mabye there was a more powerful setting on the stun gun or mabye since she lived underground she had water on her and was electrocuted.Homo reptilia 22:36, December 31, 2012 (UTC)

You do know that you can kill a human with a stun gun, right? It's not that much of a stretch to assume you could kill a Silurian the same way. -<Azes13 04:08, January 1, 2013 (UTC)

Yes, I know humans can also die from stun guns. However, I figured it would have been on setting that wouldn't be strong enough to kill her which led me to believe they may be more susceptible.

Well the lady was threatening her since her father was poisoned and her husband an her son had been kidnapped, so she seemed pretty serious to me.Homo reptilia 01:34, January 4, 2013 (UTC)

Naming issue section[[edit source]]

Is the "naming issue" section of this page anything other than conjecture along with describing inaccuracies in made up scientific names? If so, don't even behind the scenes sections violate T:NO RW when doing this? -- Tybort (talk page) 21:52, July 4, 2015 (UTC)

Tabbed gallery - infobox[[edit source]]

Unusually, this page has 3 images in the infobox side by side. Should these be updated so they appear within a newly-agreed upon tabbed gallery instead? — Fractal Doctor @ 13:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)

Just giving this a nudge. Should the images be put into an infobox gallery like others have? — Fractal Doctor @ 18:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
That sounds reasonable. Aquanafrahudy 📢 18:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)