Talk:Silurian: Difference between revisions
(126 intermediate revisions by 22 users not shown) | |||
Line 1: | Line 1: | ||
{{subpage tabs}} | |||
{{ArchCat}} | |||
Just wondering - why does it say that Silurian's red thingy in the forehead is an eye? For me it's more like an augmentation of sorts, they're technologically advanced after all...{{unsigned-anon|128.73.22.123}} | |||
:Because they call it an eye, so it must be an eye. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] [[User talk:Azes13|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 13:27, August 8, 2012 (UTC) | |||
Oh, do they? OK, won't interfere then.) | |||
==Citation needed== | |||
The <nowiki>{{fact}}</nowiki> present in the lead demands a source for what I assume is the co-existence of Silurians and Sea Devils. However, were I to put ''Warriors of the Deep'', this would immediately appear to be the source for all those alternative names, when it isn't. Are we to simply put all the necessary sources in the lead? I think this would be best, but perhaps in groups so an not to disrupt the flow. I know it's not convention to source leads, but I certainly think it should be. Hopefully someone can see through all the superflous text here, as I appear to have hidden my own question.--{{User:Skittles the hog/sig}} 22:08, September 14, 2012 (UTC) | |||
:I think the citation is required for the fact that the Silurians are from the Silurian period, which is contradicted by most of the other sources and mentioned in the Behind the Scenes section. I'm just going to remove that bit.-<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] [[User talk:Azes13|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 03:49, September 15, 2012 (UTC) | |||
:: Sorry if that wasn't clear. The Fact tag I added was for the "lived during the Silurian" rather than "co-existed with Sea Devils". -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 10:21, September 15, 2012 (UTC) | |||
Um hi could everyone just sign there comments? just hold shift and push the key wright below the esc key four times thank you.[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:54, December 31, 2012 (UTC) | |||
== Non-use of weaponry == | |||
Would the armies of Silurians using weapons post-2010 contradict what this page says about them usually not being armed? Or should this be a "Wenley vs. Wales" distinction? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 22:57, October 2, 2012 (UTC) | |||
== | == Weakness == | ||
When Alaya is killed with a stun gun, I thought it was odd that she died from something so simple. Are the Silurians really susceptible to electricity? {{unsigned|Kurai the Tsukikage}} | |||
Was it an aquatic silurian or a land living one?[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 18:56, December 31, 2012 (UTC) | |||
Land living, she's from the new episodes. She's the new one in the main picture on the Silurian page. | |||
= | oh yeah now I remember her. Mabye there was a more powerful setting on the stun gun or mabye since she lived underground she had water on her and was electrocuted.[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 22:36, December 31, 2012 (UTC) | ||
:You do know that [[:wikipedia:Taser safety issues#Deaths and injuries related to Taser use|you can kill a human]] with a stun gun, right? It's not that much of a stretch to assume you could kill a Silurian the same way. -<[[User:Azes13|Azes13]] [[User talk:Azes13|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:08, January 1, 2013 (UTC) | |||
Yes, I know humans can also die from stun guns. However, I figured it would have been on setting that wouldn't be strong enough to kill her which led me to believe they may be more susceptible. | |||
= | Well the lady was threatening her since her father was poisoned and her husband an her ''son'' had been kidnapped, so she seemed pretty serious to me.[[User:Homo reptilia|Homo reptilia]] [[User talk:Homo reptilia|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 01:34, January 4, 2013 (UTC) | ||
== Naming issue section == | |||
Is the "naming issue" section of this page anything other than conjecture along with describing inaccuracies in made up scientific names? If so, don't even behind the scenes sections violate [[T:NO RW]] when doing this? -- [[User:Tybort|Tybort]] ([[User talk:Tybort|talk page]]) 21:52, July 4, 2015 (UTC) | |||
== | == Tabbed gallery - infobox == | ||
Unusually, this page has 3 images in the infobox side by side. Should these be updated so they appear within a newly-agreed upon tabbed gallery instead? — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 13:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC) | |||
[[ | : Just giving this a nudge. Should the images be put into an infobox gallery like others have? — [[User:FractalDoctor|Fractal Doctor]] [[User talk:FractalDoctor|<span title="Send a space-time telegraph">@</span>]] 18:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC) | ||
:: That sounds reasonable. [[User:Aquanafrahudy|<span style="font-family: serif; color: pink" title="Hallo." > Aquanafrahudy</span>]] [[User talk: Aquanafrahudy|📢]] 18:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC) | |||
== Silurian classes (and Tenth Doctor reference) == | |||
It's stated in ''The Lost Dimension'' that Vastra's subspecies is the "Scholar class" while the Pertwee era Silurians are the "Warrior class". I understand that "Early" is also a used term in the literature, but considering that the Silurians met by the Third and Fifth Doctors respectively are essentially Warrior class, and the Silurians we see during and after the Eleventh Doctor era are "Scholar class", should we rename the gallery tabs from Eary, Middle and Late, seeing as Early and Middle are the same subspecies. I get that we want to show all of their iterations, but it's best to be accurate. | |||
Furthermore, on a different note, the preview chapters in ''Frida Kohlo and the Skull Children'' have the Tenth Doctor stating that humans and Silurians will one day live together in harmony but that specific future date isn't set (i.e. it's in flux). Since that's already been printed, are we allowed to put it on the article, or do we have to wait for the novel in its entirety (since the Tenth Doctor may explain a bit further)? [[User:Thefartydoctor|Thefartydoctor]] [[User talk:Thefartydoctor|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 17:42, 15 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
:Best to just wait until the Tenth Doctor book is out. Will only be about a week. | |||
:The issue of the Silurian classes is one of many contradictory sources. Some sources do differentiate the Classics Silurians, and they do have different designs, meaning that it's not inaccurate. We could have different names on the tabs; it's not elegant, but sometimes we just label them "A", "B", and "C" to not be biased. [[User:TheChampionOfTime|TheChampionOfTime]] [[User talk:TheChampionOfTime|<span title="Talk to me">☎</span>]] 04:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC) | |||
Latest revision as of 04:35, 16 November 2024
Archives: #1 |
Just wondering - why does it say that Silurian's red thingy in the forehead is an eye? For me it's more like an augmentation of sorts, they're technologically advanced after all...– The preceding unsigned comment was added by 128.73.22.123 (talk).
Oh, do they? OK, won't interfere then.)
Citation needed[[edit source]]
The {{fact}} present in the lead demands a source for what I assume is the co-existence of Silurians and Sea Devils. However, were I to put Warriors of the Deep, this would immediately appear to be the source for all those alternative names, when it isn't. Are we to simply put all the necessary sources in the lead? I think this would be best, but perhaps in groups so an not to disrupt the flow. I know it's not convention to source leads, but I certainly think it should be. Hopefully someone can see through all the superflous text here, as I appear to have hidden my own question.--Skittles the hog - talk 22:08, September 14, 2012 (UTC)
- I think the citation is required for the fact that the Silurians are from the Silurian period, which is contradicted by most of the other sources and mentioned in the Behind the Scenes section. I'm just going to remove that bit.-<Azes13 ☎ 03:49, September 15, 2012 (UTC)
Um hi could everyone just sign there comments? just hold shift and push the key wright below the esc key four times thank you.Homo reptilia ☎ 18:54, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Non-use of weaponry[[edit source]]
Would the armies of Silurians using weapons post-2010 contradict what this page says about them usually not being armed? Or should this be a "Wenley vs. Wales" distinction? -- Tybort (talk page) 22:57, October 2, 2012 (UTC)
Weakness[[edit source]]
When Alaya is killed with a stun gun, I thought it was odd that she died from something so simple. Are the Silurians really susceptible to electricity? – The preceding unsigned comment was added by Kurai the Tsukikage (talk • contribs) .
Was it an aquatic silurian or a land living one?Homo reptilia ☎ 18:56, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
Land living, she's from the new episodes. She's the new one in the main picture on the Silurian page.
oh yeah now I remember her. Mabye there was a more powerful setting on the stun gun or mabye since she lived underground she had water on her and was electrocuted.Homo reptilia ☎ 22:36, December 31, 2012 (UTC)
- You do know that you can kill a human with a stun gun, right? It's not that much of a stretch to assume you could kill a Silurian the same way. -<Azes13 ☎ 04:08, January 1, 2013 (UTC)
Yes, I know humans can also die from stun guns. However, I figured it would have been on setting that wouldn't be strong enough to kill her which led me to believe they may be more susceptible.
Well the lady was threatening her since her father was poisoned and her husband an her son had been kidnapped, so she seemed pretty serious to me.Homo reptilia ☎ 01:34, January 4, 2013 (UTC)
Naming issue section[[edit source]]
Is the "naming issue" section of this page anything other than conjecture along with describing inaccuracies in made up scientific names? If so, don't even behind the scenes sections violate T:NO RW when doing this? -- Tybort (talk page) 21:52, July 4, 2015 (UTC)
Tabbed gallery - infobox[[edit source]]
Unusually, this page has 3 images in the infobox side by side. Should these be updated so they appear within a newly-agreed upon tabbed gallery instead? — Fractal Doctor @ 13:03, 1 July 2023 (UTC)
- Just giving this a nudge. Should the images be put into an infobox gallery like others have? — Fractal Doctor @ 18:39, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
- That sounds reasonable. Aquanafrahudy 📢 18:43, 19 August 2023 (UTC)
Silurian classes (and Tenth Doctor reference)[[edit source]]
It's stated in The Lost Dimension that Vastra's subspecies is the "Scholar class" while the Pertwee era Silurians are the "Warrior class". I understand that "Early" is also a used term in the literature, but considering that the Silurians met by the Third and Fifth Doctors respectively are essentially Warrior class, and the Silurians we see during and after the Eleventh Doctor era are "Scholar class", should we rename the gallery tabs from Eary, Middle and Late, seeing as Early and Middle are the same subspecies. I get that we want to show all of their iterations, but it's best to be accurate.
Furthermore, on a different note, the preview chapters in Frida Kohlo and the Skull Children have the Tenth Doctor stating that humans and Silurians will one day live together in harmony but that specific future date isn't set (i.e. it's in flux). Since that's already been printed, are we allowed to put it on the article, or do we have to wait for the novel in its entirety (since the Tenth Doctor may explain a bit further)? Thefartydoctor ☎ 17:42, 15 November 2024 (UTC)
- Best to just wait until the Tenth Doctor book is out. Will only be about a week.
- The issue of the Silurian classes is one of many contradictory sources. Some sources do differentiate the Classics Silurians, and they do have different designs, meaning that it's not inaccurate. We could have different names on the tabs; it's not elegant, but sometimes we just label them "A", "B", and "C" to not be biased. TheChampionOfTime ☎ 04:34, 16 November 2024 (UTC)